MENA1

By David P Beiter

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The following excerpts are from copyrighted material and are
posted here without permission.

My comments in [brackets].
Begin excerpts:

[text omitted]

   With the release of this report, I may be the #1 target of a
group of very short-tempered gentlemen who have thus far
dispatched [at least] 21 people who were an embarrassment to
their friend Bill Clinton.
   All of the 21 knew a bit too much about Whitewater or
Troopergate or Cattlegate or some other Clinton scandal.
   In some ways, I know more than they did. I spent 20 years in
Arkansas, and I personally knew Clinton, Jim Blair, Vince Foster,
Jim McDougal, David Hale, Don Tyson, Governor Tucker, and dozens
more of that bunch.
   Some of the dead probably died by accident. But it's silly to
pretend they all did. For example:

Victim 1: On September 26, 1993, Luther "Jerry" Parks enjoyed a
nice dinner at a Mexican restaurant in Little Rock. On the way
home, his car was forced to a stop and he was mowed down by
unfriendlies with nine-millimeter semiautomatic pistols.

[text omitted]

   Jerry was the owner of American Contract Services, which
supplied the guards for Clinton's presidential campaign and
transition headquarters (Clinton still owed him $81,000) so he
knew a lot about Clinton's comings and goings. As a matter of
fact, Jerry had quietly been compiling a major study of Clinton's
sexual affairs for about six years. Not quietly enough though.
Shortly before his demise, his home was broken into and the
study's backup files - filled with photos and names - were
stolen, according to his widow, Jane, after the security alarm
was skillfully cut.

[text omitted]

   After a long investigation, Little Rock police detective
Sergeant Clyde Steelman gave his character endorsement, "The
Parks family aren't lying to you."

Victim 2: You must understand the central fact about the
Whitewater Development Corporation: It was not the main crime.
Whitewater was only a pretext set up by Jim McDougal and the
Clintons to milk millions of dollars from the SBA [Small Business
Administration], banks, Arkansas Development Finance Authority
[ADFA], and Madison Guaranty Savings and Loan.
   The Resolution Trust Corporation [RTC] people eventually
figured out that their investigation of Madison wasn't getting
anywhere because it was based in Kansas City, where Clinton's
people stymied it. So Jon Parnell Walker, a Senior Investigation
Specialist in the RTC's Washington [D.C.] office, began a
campaign to get the case moved to DC.
   Soon after, Jon was looking over a possible new apartment in
Lincoln Towers in Arlington, Virginia, when reportedly he
suddenly decided to climb over the balcony railing and jump.

Victim 3: You remember the name Danny Ferguson. He is the
Arkansas patrolman who once said he brought Paula Jones to Bill
Clinton's hotel room. Kathy, 38, his wife at the time, blabbed a
lot about such things. She often told friends and coworkers about
how Bill had gotten Danny to bring women to him and stand watch
while they had sex.

[text omitted]

Kathy told people that Bill was really mad when Paula Jones
wouldn't "put out." Bill hates to be refused.
   On May 10 [year?], Kathy was found dead with a pistol in her
hand. A suicide, the police said.

[text omitted]

   Footnote to story: About three weeks later, Danny reversed his
story, saying he didn't lead Paula to Clinton's room after all.
   Second footnote: Bill Shelton, Kathy's new boyfriend since her
separation from Danny, was loudly critical of the suicide story
and complained to many people about it. Bill was found dead on
June 9. They're calling this a suicide, too.

Victim 4: Vincent Foster, who was Clinton's counsel for
Whitewater, was the highest government official to meet an
untimely death since the Kennedys.
   He could have killed himself on July 20, 1993, Robert Fiske,
Clinton's "independent" counsel claimed. But it's rather
doubtful. The story line concocted by Fiske has about 20 major
holes in it, which partly explains his replacement by Kenneth
Starr.

[This section was to long to type!]

Victim 5 & 6: Then you have the small-plane crashes, which are
fairly easy events to stage.

[text omitted]

[...] C. Victor Raiser II, the former finance co-chairman of
Clinton's presidential campaign, and his son, Montgomery. Their
plane crashed in good weather near Anchorage, Alaska, on July 30,
1992.

Victim 7: Herschel Friday was another member of Raiser's
committee and a heck of a nice guy. His plane dropped out of
sight and exploded as he approached his own private landing strip
in Arkansas in a light drizzle on March 1, 1994. Herschel was a
top-notch pilot and his strip is better than those in most
cities. [...]

Victim 8: Just two days later, Dr. Ronald Rogers, a very vocal
dentist from Royal, Arkansas, was on his way to reveal some dirt
on Clinton to Ambrose Evans-Pritchard, a reporter from the London
Sunday Telegraph, when his twin-engine Cessna crashed with a full
tank of gas in clear weather south of Lawton, Oklahoma.

[text omitted]

Victim 9: [...Barry Seal's] story is so exciting that Hollywood
made it into a movie, 'Double-Crossed' [...]
   Barry made about $50 million as a pilot and plane supplier in
Clinton's incredibly elaborate and successful drug-running
operation out of Mena, Arkansas.

[text omitted]

   Barry Seal was eventually arrested by the Federal Drug
Enforcement Administration. To get off the hook, he turned
state's evidence and fingered several big drug dealers. He even
managed to take clandestine photographs of major Colombian and
Panamanian figures, one of which President Reagan showed proudly
in a nationwide TV speech.
   But in the end, the DEA betrayed the flamboyant Barry by
allowing him to be sentenced to a halfway house, where a few days
later he was a sitting duck for three Colombian avengers with Uzi
and MAC-10 submachine guns with silencers.

[This section was to long to type!]

Victim 10 & 11: Kevin Ives and Don Henry, two Bryant, Arkansas,
teenagers, apparently were a bit too snoopy about the air drops
of dope and cash they had observed in the nearby countryside at
night (part of the Mena operation). They were found on the
morning of August 23, 1987, having been run over by a train.
"They fell asleep on the tracks," according to state medical
examiner Fahmy Malak, a Clinton appointee [...]

( [...] Malak once declared that a decapitated man had died of
"natural causes," a ruling Clinton defended as a mere symptom of
overwork.)

   Malak's opinion caused a big ruckus locally. Eventually, the
boy's irate parents managed to get a second coroner's opinion,
and the official causes of death were changed to being stabbed in
the back and getting a crushed skull before the train came. At
this point...

Victims 12 - 17: ...six local people came forward independently,
each claiming to have some special knowledge about the deaths of
the boys on the track. All were slain before their testimony
could do any good. Police involvement is suspected in most cases,
but not all:

Keith Coney had been slashed in the neck and was fleeing for his
life when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck. "A
traffic fatality," police said.

Gregory Collins was found shot in the face by a shotgun.

Keith McKaskle was brutally stabbed at home 113 times. He knew he
was doomed, and had told his friends and family goodbye.

The burned body of Jeff Rhodes was found in the city dump, shot
in the head and with his hands, feet, and head partly cut off.

Richard Winters was killed by a man with a 12-gauge sawed-off
shotgun.

Jordon Ketelson died of a shotgun blast to the head and was found
in the driveway of a house in Garland County. "A suicide," the
sheriff said.

   Do you see a pattern here? All in all, after ten years of Mena
operations, not one arrest was ever made [...]

Victim 18: Danny Casolaro was a reporter who was investigating
the connections between Mena, BCCI, Iran-Contra, Reagan's
"October Surprise," Park-o-Meter Co. (which made dope-storage
nose cones for the airplanes at Mena), and the ADFA (Clinton's
billion-dollar state bonds racket). [...] On August 10, 1991,
just as he was about to receive information linking Iran-Contra
to the Inslaw scandal, Danny was found with his wrists slit in
the bathtub of a hotel room in West Virginia. What a coincidence.

Victim 19: Paul Wilcher, a Washington D.C. lawyer, was deeply
investigating Mena and other scandals. He was scheduled for a
meeting with Danny Casolaro's former attorney, but on June 22,
1993, was found dead in his apartment, sitting on his toilet.
(The bathroom killer strikes again?)

Victim 20: Ed Willey, the manager of Clinton's presidential
campaign finance committee [...] supposedly shot himself on
November 30, 1993.

Victim 21: John A. Wilson, a [...] city councilman in Washington
D.C., knew a lot about Clinton's dirty tricks. [...] on May 19,
1993, he just decided to hang himself [...]

[text omitted]

Footnote: I hereby serve notice that I am not depressed in the
least, and that if anything happens to me, I publicly accuse Bill
Clinton and his circle of power.

End excerpts.

By Nicholas A. Guarino
Editor

The Wall Street Underground
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Burnsville, Minnesota 55337

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Date:     Mon Nov 20, 1995 11:24 pm  CST
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>>Try reading the British press and watching British news documentaries,
>>and you'll see exactly how derelict the American press and
>>electronic media have become.
>>
>
>  That's true. While I was down in Australia, everyone was talking about the
>British 20/20 program on Mena. I was not able to see it myself, but from the
>second hand reports it must have been a very thorough expose.
>
>  I guess that, like "The Atomic Cafe", this is another forign documentary
>that will never be shown in our "free" society.


  Hey, I was wrong! The show IS available here in the United States.

  The following is offered for informational purposes only. I am not affiliated
with the Washington Weekly (although I am a fan), and share no commercial
interest in this video tape (but my money is on the way as I type this).





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			"The Cocaine Connection"

   "Reveals a trail of guns, cash and cocaine leading to the front door of the
			       White House"

This is the story that American TV should have told, but didn't.
This is a scandal that Congress should have exposed, but wouldn't.

Now British TV has made a documentary expose of the gun running, drug
smuggling, and murder centered around Mena airport in the 1980s.

This compelling documentary includes actual footage as well as interviews
with L.D. Brown, Terry Reed, Russell Welch, Bill Duncan, Julius Delaughter,
John Brown, Linda Ives and many more. No stone is left unturned.

This tape is now being distributed by Washington Weekly so the American
public can learn the shocking truth.

Was Governor Bill Clinton connected to the CIA?
Was drug money the source of Bill Clinton's campaign funds?
Why did Clinton protect dope dealer Dan Lasater?
Who killed the two teenagers who stumbled onto an airdrop gone awry?
Who covered up their murders and continues to interfere with the investigation?

Alert your friends and neighbors to what may prove to be the biggest scandal
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Date:     Sun Nov 26, 1995  8:29 pm  CST
From:     David J. Sussman
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Subject:  Re: "The Cocaine Connection": BANNED IN THE USA



Question:  Has the ownership of the program changed recently?
	   i.e. did Carlton just buy the rights and want to stop
	   all distribution or did Carlton ALWAYS hold the rights
	   and just now decide for reasons not given, to stop the
	   distribution in the US?

It is my impression that Carlton is the same firm that negotiated the
deal to distribute the tape in the US and now wants to stop the deal.
If this is the case then it would appear that Carlton is afraid of
reprisals from unfriendlies.

If Carlton bought the rights and NOW wants to suppress distribution, then
we have a different animal altogether.

I worry when I am told all about something by people who have not seen
it, and when I cannot see something that was produced to be shown to a
wide audience because it offends someone politically or is otherwise an
expose of criminal wrongdoing.

DS

On 25 Nov 1995, John Q. Public wrote:

> found at http://dolphin.gulf.net/tape.html
>
>
> BRITISH MENA TAPE BANNED IN THE USA
>
> The British Mena tape that the Washington Weekly started offering to
> subscribers last week, has been banned for wider distribution in the
> USA.
>
> The Washington Weekly originally received a master tape from the
> producer of the documentary, who had no objections to distribution of
> the tape.
>
> For unexplained reasons, however, the owner of the rights to the program,
> Carlton Television Limited, has refused to negotiate wider distribution
> in the U.S. under any circumstances. Carlton Television did not respond
> to questions from Washington Weekly asking whether they had been subject
> to political pressure to prevent distribution in the U.S.
>
> Reliable sources have told the Washington Weekly that U.S. Senator Bob
> Dole has asked the London Telegraph to curtail its investigation into
> the Mena scandal.
>
> All orders received before the cease and desist demand from Carlton have
> been filled. The Washington Weekly is considering further actions in
> this matter.
>
>
>



Date:     Mon Nov 27, 1995  8:35 pm  CST
From:     David J. Sussman
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Subject:  Repost: The lights are going out all over this land (fwd)



---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: 27 NOV 1995 04:09:02 GMT
From: Martin Anderson 
Newgroups: alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater
Subject: Repost: The lights are going out all over this land



The November 27 Washington Weekly has foreboding news.

The long arm of the Clinton's has reached across the Atlantic to
prevent the American distribution of the British 20-20 television
documentary on the Mena Scandal.

Also, there is information that the internet has come under control of
SAIC, a CIA contractor.

Editor Marvin Lee has now learned that the matters of greatest
interest to SAIC, in his publication, are the Mena scandal and the
Inslaw scandal.

These, with the Foster death, are the tripod of the Horrors that now
stand at the moral foundation of this Administration.  Beyond this,
Marvin Lee also discloses Republican Senator Robert Dole's
ongoing involvement in the Mena coverup.

Forget Whitewater, Robert Dole's creature, Senator D'Amato has, by
deliberate intention, reduced that to a niggling bore.

All this is evidence of the continuing coup that has been rolling
across America since the Clinton inaugural.

Already, this administration holds the commanding heights of the media;
Federal law enforcement, police, intelligence, and regulation; and now
has the leadership of the Democratic and Republican parties well in
hand.

What is next as the lights go out all across this land?

Martin




>INVESTIGATING MENA
>
>        House Banking Chairman James Leach, in a memo to his committee's
>members, has suggested that his low-key Whitewater investigation may lead
>to hearings on a high-profile issue: allegations of money laundering and
>drug smuggling at Mena Airport in southwestern Arkansas.
>        Leach disclosed that investigators are probing "whether businesses
>based at, or operating through, the Mena Airport engaged in systematic
>money laundering." They also are exploring, he said, whether the source of
>laundered money was convicted drug smuggler Barry Seal during the time he
>said he was working for the Central Intelligence Agency.
>        Published accounts for years have linked wrongdoing at Mena to the
>then-governor of Arkansas, Bill Clinton. But Leach's memo did not mention
>Clinton and asserted "the Mena-related allegations involve possible
>improper conduct spanning several federal administrations."
>



Date:     Sun Dec 10, 1995  9:58 am  CST
From:     David J. Sussman
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TO:     * David Beiter / MCI ID: 635-1762
Subject:  Clinton,Bush & CIA question & answer (fwd)



---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: 7 DEC 1995 20:35:56 GMT
From: Robert Lee Sitler 
Newgroups: alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater
Subject: Clinton,Bush & CIA question & answer

Hello everyone. I have Bob Harris's email address now:
75720.2644@compuserve.com
Bob Harris is a lecturer and investigator of government abuse. He helped
produce the CD "Encyclopedia of the JFK Assassination". He has actually
been to the Mena airfield, and dug into the facts surrounding Clinton,
Foster, etc... I emailed him the following question.
Have you read Clinton, Bush & CIA by Terry Reed? And if so, do you have
anything to add? Following is his response.
Hi Rob.
Actually, I haven't spent a lot of time on the Mena airport story. It's
apparently just one of many bases used to ship nasty stuff, and
unfortunately a lot of political folks have used it to distract attention
from the far bettet-documented involvement of Bush's NSC in similar
shipments through Homestead AFB in Florida, John Hull's farm in Costa
Rica, and even apparently a strip of land way out in the Texas hill
country owned by one of Bush's closest friends. But to listen to some of
the folks who tout that book, the governor of Arkansas somehow caused our
nation's drug problem, which is nuts.
Anybody with integrity should call it down the middle, not exploit the
activities of somebody in one party for political gain. Which isn't to say
that's what Reed's doing-- I have his book, and it looks like he's a
pretty straight-up guy--but when I look at how folks like Jerry Falwell
have used him to imply that the Clintonistas are major smugglers and then
turn around and support Ollie North for the Senate--well, that's just
repellent.
I've been to Mena, by the way. Gave me the willies. The airstrip really is
way the bloody hell too big for that little town. Something's definitely
up.
Clinton's dirty as hell, no doubt--the commodities stuff was a payoff from
Tyson, for example--so, sure, what Terry Reed says could have happened.
Just keep in mind that the problem is structural, it's integral to both
parties, and so if we want to put an end to it, the answer isn't be
electing religious fundamentalists but by enacting campaign finance
reform, so neither party can be bought and sold the way the both currently
are.
Long answer to as short question. Hope it made sense. Bob




Date:     Fri Sep 08, 1995  9:43 pm  CST
From:     Duane Roberts
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Subject:  Re: Molehills and Mountains - some news

On 4 Sep 1995, Edward W. Zehr wrote:

> Although there is considerable evidence that the CIA routinely financed
> covert operations with drug money, that does not appear to have been done
> in the Contra supply operation. The amount of aid being given the Contras
> was actually quite modest compared to the profits Seal was making on his
> drug-running operation. The irony of it is, had drug profits been used to
> finance this operation, instead of involving other countries, especially
> Iran, the spooks running the show would probably have gotten clean away
> with it, given the unwillingness of politicians in both parties to
> investigate drug-related covert operations.

If as you claim in the preceding paragraph that drug profits weren't used to
finance the Nicaraguan Contras, then why did the Subcommittee on Terrorism,
Narcotics, and International Operations of the Committee on Foreign
Relations headed by Senator John F. Kerry (D-Mass.) generate roughly fifteen
hundred pages of documentation proving that in fact this was the case?

And why did Senator Kerry write the following conclusions in a report that
was released to the public on April 13, 1989 if there was no evidence to
make these claims?

There are many other things I could post from this report, but I think
this will do for now.


-----------------------------------------------------------
DRUGS, LAW ENFORCEMENT, AND FOREIGN POLICY: A REPORT
-----------------------------------------------------------
Subcommittee on Terrorism, Narcotics, and International
Operations of the Committee on Foreign Relations,
United States Senate. December 1988.
-----------------------------------------------------------
Washington : U.S. G.P.O. : For sale by the U.S. G.P.O.,
Supt. of Docs., April 13, 1989.
-----------------------------------------------------------
GOV DOC # Y 4.F 76/2:S.prt.100-165.
-----------------------------------------------------------


From pages 36 and 37.


NARCOTICS TRAFFICKERS AND THE CONTRAS

I. INTRODUCTION

   The initial Committee investigation into the international drug trade,
which began in April, 1986, focused on allegations that Senator John F.
Kerry had received of illegal gun-running and narcotics trafficking
associated with the Contra war against Nicaragua.
   As the Committee proceeded with its investigation, significant
information began surfacing concerning the operations of international
narcotics traffickers, particularly relating to the Colombian-based
cocaine cartels. As a result, the decision was made to incorporate the
Contra-related allegation into a broader investigation concerning the
relationship between foreign policy, narcotics trafficking, and law
enforcement.
   While the contra/drug question was not the primary focus of the
investigation, the Subcommittee uncovered considerable evidence relating
to the Contra network which substantiated many of the initial allegations
laid out before the Committee in the Spring of 1986. On the basis of this
evidence, it is clear that individuals who provided support for the
Contras were involved in drug trafficking, the supply network of the
Contras was used by drug trafficking organizations, and elements of the
Contras themselves knowingly received financial and material assistance from
drug traffickers. In each case, one or another agency of the U.S. government
had information regarding the involvement either while it was occurring,
or immediately thereafter.
   The Subcommittee found that the Contra drug links included:
   - Involvement in narcotics trafficking by individuals associated
     with the Contra movement.
   - Participation of narcotics traffickers in Contra supply
     operations through business relationships with Contra organizations.
   - Provision of assistance to the Contras by narcotics traffickers,
     including cash, weapons, planes, pilots, air supply services and
     other materials, on a voluntary basis by the traffickers.
   - Payments to drug traffickers by the U.S. State Department of
     funds authorized by the Congress for humanitarian assistance to
     the Contras, in some cases after the traffickers had been
     indicted by federal law enforcement agencies on drug charges,
     in others while traffickers were under active investigation
     by these same agencies.
   These activities were carried out in connection with Contra activities
in both Costa Rica and Honduras.
   The Subcommittee found that the links that were forged between the
Contras and the drug traffickers were primarily pragmatic, rather
than ideological. The drug traffickers, who had significant financial
and material resources, needed the cover of legitimate activity for
their criminal enterprises. A trafficker like George Morales hoped to
have his drug indictment dropped in return for his financial and
material support of the Contras. Others, in the words of Marcos Aguado,
Eden Pastora's air force chief:

      ... took advantage of the anti-communist sentiment which
      existed in Central America ... and they undoubtedly used it for
      drug trafficking.

   While for some Contras, it was a matter of survival, for the
traffickers it was just another business deal to promote and protect
their own operations....


From page 136.


			 COVERT ACTIVITY ISSUES

   5. The war in Central America contributed to weakening an
      already inadequate law enforcement capability which was exploited
      easily by a variety of mercenaries, pilots and cartel members
      involved in drug smuggling. In several cases, drug smugglers
      were hired by Contra organizations to move Contra supplies. In
      addition, individual contras accepted weapons, money and equipment
      from drug smugglers.

   The Subcommittee did not find evidence that the Contra leadership
participated directly in narcotics smuggling in support of their
war against the Sandinistas, although the largest Contra organization
the FDN, did move Contra funds through a narcotics trafficking
enterprise and money laundering operation. There was, moreover,
substantial evidence of drug smuggling through the war zones on the
part of individual Contras, pilots who flew supplies, mercenaries
who worked for the Contras, and Contra supporters throughout the
region.
   There is also evidence on the record that U.S. officials involved
in assisting the Contras knew that drug smugglers were exploiting the
clandestine infrastructure established to support the war and
that Contras were receiving assistance derived from drug trafficking.
Instead of reporting these individuals to the appropriate law
enforcement agencies, it appears that some officials may have
turned a blind eye to these activities.



Sincerely,

Duane J. Roberts
eaou669@ea.oac.uci.edu

Undergraduate Student
Criminology, Law, and Society
School of Social Ecology
University of California, Irvine






Date:     Fri Sep 08, 1995  9:47 pm  CST
From:     Duane Roberts
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TO:     * David Beiter / MCI ID: 635-1762
Subject:  Re: Mena & mainstream media

On 5 Sep 1995, Edward W. Zehr wrote:

> North mentions in his book *Under Fire* that Seal was used in a sting
> operation against the Sandinistas, who were trafficking in drugs at
> that time. A well-known article that ran in the monthly Texas Observer
> quoted a DEA agent as saying that drugs were being smuggled into the
> country from El Salvador. Several newspapers embellished the story,
> saying that North had been aware of the drug trafficking. The Washington
> Post checked into the story and concluded that the DEA agent had NOT said
> that North knew about the operation.

If *The Washington Post* ran an article claiming that this DEA agent "had
NOT said that North knew about" what was going on at Ilopango airport in
El Salvador, then *The Post* was disseminating misleading and inaccurate
information about this matter (as usual).

The agent you happen to be referring to is a gentleman by the name of
Celerino Castillo III. Mr. Castillo was the Drug Enforcement Administration's
top man in El Salvador in the early 80s.

Last year, Mr. Castillo publically accused Lt. Col. Oliver L. North and
other government officials of collaborating with drug traffickers at Ilopango
airport in El Salvador to smuggle cocaine into the U.S. in return for using a
portion of the profits to buy weapons and supplies for the Contras.

Mr. Castillo gave numerous interviews to this effect.

The following is a transcript of one of several interviews conducted with
him that I have in my possession (I also have a copy of the book he has
written about his experiences).

[It should be noted that that the C-123/C-130 cargo planes flying in-and-out
of the Intermountain Regional Airport in Mena, Arkansas frequently
travelled to Ilopango.]

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Interview: Celerino Castillo

ALL NORTH'S PILOTS RAN DRUGS, SAYS FORMER DEA AGENT

Celerino Castillo, who was the U.S. Drug Enforcement
Administration's (DEA) top agent in El Salvador during
1985-87, is the co-author, with David Harmon, of a new
book, *Powder Burns: Cocaine, Contras and the Drug War*

Interviewed by Edward Spannaus on Sept. 10, 1994.

     Spannaus: Mr. Castillo, before we get into the question
of Oliver North, I'd like to ask you a little bit about
your background. Could tell us what your employment with
the DEA was?
    Castillo: Being born and reared in south Texas,
we come from a family which is very patriotic. My father
was a World War II hero who was shot six times in an
ambush in the Philippines, and he is the recipient of the
onze Star, and of course the Purple Heart, and so forth.
    I'm the only male in the family, and I could have
been kept from going to Vietnam. But I did go to Vietnam;
I'm a Vietnam veteran. I'm a recipient of the Bronze Star.
Because of my combat experience, I decided to go into law
enforcement. I saw a lot of my buddies shoot up heroin in
Vietnam, and I decided when I got back I would get
involved with the federal narcotics system.
    I went to school, got my degree in criminal justice,
and was a police officer at the time I was going to
school. I worked the midnight shift and went to school
during the daytime.
    After that, I applied with the DEA, and was hired by
the DEA in 1979. My first assignment with the DEA was in
New York City. I turned out to be the first Mexican-American
to work in New York City. I teamed up with another agent
who was Italian, and we ended up conducting the
investigation that ended up in one of the biggest heroin
seizures in New York City of all time.
    After four years in New York City, I was assigned,
because of my Vietnam experience, to conduct jungle
operations in Peru. I did a lot of assaults on airstrips
there, and air assaults on cocaine labs.
    We conducted an operation there called Operation
Condor, which was the first time in history that the
Peruvians and Colombians worked hand-in-hand in combatting
narcotics trafficking. We ended up seizing a cocaine lab
in Peru that was producing 100% hydrochloride cocaine.

    Spannaus: What year was this?
    Castillo: This was in 1984.... I was supposed to
do a two-year tour there, but I ended up doing about
a year and a quarter, because of my exposure to
international stardom in Peru. There was a picture of me
during the operation that was in every newspaper in South
America. For security reasons, I left Peru and I was
assigned to work in Guatemala.
    I arrived in Guatemala in October 1985, and of course
that was the first time I was forewarned by the country
attache, Bob Stia, about the Contras being involved in
narcotics trafficking.

    Spannaus: What was Stia's position?
    Castillo: Robert Stia was the country attache,
which involved two agents and himself. Two agents covered
four countries, including Belize, Guatemala, Salvador, and
Honduras.

    Spannaus: What did you find out while you were there?
    Castillo: At the beginning, I was in charge. I
was supposed to be the agent in charge of El Salvador,
which means I was the DEA representation in that country.
    One of the things that we had in El Salvador was an
informant who was in place at Ilopango airport. This
informant was the one who did the flight plans for the
Contras, and he had previously given reliable information
to the U.S. Embassy in regards to some of the pilots who
were involved in narcotics trafficking.
    We had another individual who had been a DEA
informant since 1981, and he was also very politically
involved with the Arena Party, which was the party of the
far right, the party of Maj. [Roberto] D'Aubisson,
[Napoleoan] Duarte, and [Alfredo] Cristiani. We had
gathered intelligence, and we continued to start the
investigation on it.

    Spannaus: What was going on at Ilopango?
    Castillo: We had pilots, who were being hired
down in Central America, who were running supplies for
the Contras and were also involved heavily in narcotics
trafficking. When we finally got the names of all the
pilots who were involved, we ran it through our computers,
and it was revealed that every single one of them was
documented as a narcotics trafficker. This was brought to
the attention of the U.S. ambassador, Edwin Corr. He was
advised of the investigation that we were conducting.
    His answer to me was the fact that it was a covert
operation from the White House and Ollie North, and he
advised me that I would be safer to stay away from that
investigation, because I would be stepping on people's
toes at the White House.

    Spannaus: What were these pilots doing?
    Castillo: They were flying narcotics into the
United States. They were also flying monies--U.S.
currency--into Panama, into the Bahamas, to launder money
for the Contras.

    Spannaus: Were they also flying guns?
    Castillo: They were flying guns. They were flying
supplies for the Contras, and they were also involved in
narcotics trafficking.
    On Jan. 14, 1986, I met George Bush, then vice
president, at a cocktail party in Guatemala City. It was
at the U.S. ambassador's residence. He came up to me, and
asked me what my job description was as a DEA agent in
Guatemala. I told him that I was an agent conducting
international narcotics investigations, and I told him
that there was something funny going on with the Contras
at Ilopango airport. As soon as I said that, he shook my
hand, he smiled for the cameraman, and then he just walked
away from me without saying a word. I knew then that he
knew what I was talking about, about the Contras.

    Spannaus: Was there any doubt in your mind that he knew
what you were talking about?
    Castillo: Not at all. I want to go on the record
saying that on that same day, if I'm not mistaken, and I'm
sure I'm not, I saw Oliver North in Guatemala City, and I
definitely saw Calero, the leader of the Contras, at the
same time in Guatemala City at the U.S. Embassy.

    Spannaus: This is Adolpho Calero?
    Castillo: Yes, sir. They were all there at the
same time.

    Spannaus: Did you have any information as to what they
were doing there?
    Castillo: They were meeting in the ``bubble,''
and the ``bubble'' means the CIA room up on the third
floor, where they were discussing sensitive information. I
knew Calero was there and [involved] in discussions about
the Contras. That's just what I think was going on.

    Spannaus: Let me come back to this question of the
pilots again. Who hired these pilots?
    Castillo: These pilots were being hired,
according to the pilots and according to our informant, by
Felix Rodriguez, who was running Hangars 4 and 5 of
Ilopango. They were hired by the CIA, Oliver North's
Contra operation, and so forth.

    Spannaus: What was Rodriguez's relation to George Bush
and Bush's office?
    Castillo: They were very close friends, according
to a lot of information we had received.
    What happened is that this investigation snowballed
in early 1986, and I got a cable from the country
attache in Costa Rica, advising me that they had
received reliable information that there were Contra
pilots flying out of Costa Rica into Ilopango into Hangars
4 and 5. It turned out Hangars 4 and 5 are owned and
operated by the CIA and the National Security
Council--which is Oliver North--and were run by Felix
Rodriguez.
    When we contacted our informants in there, they just
went ballistic, telling me that that is what they had been
trying to tell everybody: that the Contras and the CIA and
everybody else in Hangars 4 and 5 were heavily involved in
narcotics trafficking.
    This informant himself saw, in one instance, $4.5
million in cash going from Ilopango into Panama. Secondly,
he saw drugs. Thirdly, he would call us and let us know
when a certain pilot was on his way to airdrop money into
the Bahamas. One of his pilots was Chico Guirola,
Francisco Guirola, a Contra pilot. This same individual,
who had gone to the Bahamas on certain days, had also been
arrested in 1985 in south Texas, with $5.5 million in
cash. That was a Contra operation. He was deported and, if
I'm not mistaken, that money was given back to him.

    Spannaus: What's the story on this fellow ``Brasher''?
[In Castillo's book, Walter Grasheim is referred to as William
Brasher.]
    Castillo: Mr. Walter ``Wally'' Grasheim was a
civilian. He was a documented narcotics trafficker. When I
approached everybody in the U.S. Embassy to find out who
this individual was, they told me that he was working for the
Oliver North Contra operation out of Hangars 4 and 5, and was
the liaison officer between General Bustillo and Oliver North.
    I built a unit in El Salvador, an anti-narco-terrorist unit,
and this individual was hit, his house was searched, by my unit
in El Salvador.
    When it was searched, he happened to be in New York
City at the time, and we found a lot of U.S. munitions,
cases of grenades, cases of explosives--C4. Every
explosive we could find was found at that residence,
including sniper rifles, helicopter helmets, you name it.
This guy was a civilian who was not supposed to have any
of this stuff with him. Surprisingly, what we also found
at his residence was that all his vehicles had U.S.
Embassy license plates. We found radios belonging to the
U.S. Embassy. We found weapons belonging to the U.S.
Embassy.

    Spannaus: This is somebody who is a documented drug
trafficker?
    Castillo: A documented drug trafficker and a
civilian. He violated every Customs law there is, in the
exportation and importation of those items into El
Salvador.

    Spannaus: What happened? Was he prosecuted?
    Castillo: Well, no. We had a warrant for
his arrest, if he was to come back. He found out....

    Spannaus: When you obtained information about drug
trafficking running out of Ilopango, what did you do with
that information?
    Castillo: I wrote cables; I wrote DEA-6s; I wrote
reports. I did everything I was supposed to do.

    Spannaus: Now these reports would go where--to DEA
headquarters?
    Castillo: The DEA in Washington. Exactly. We've
got to remember one other thing that a lot of people are
not aware of. Every time I wrote a report, every time I
sent a cable out, it had to be approved by the country
attache and the U.S. ambassador. Those reports had to
be approved, and they did not interfere with me sending
those reports, because they knew that some day it was
going to come back and bite them in the butt if they
didn't do it.

    Spannaus: What was the response from headquarters to
this?
    Castillo: I got no response in the beginning.
None at all. For example, on June 19, 1986, the informant
at Ilopango called and advised me that Chico Guirola had
departed Ilopango to the Bahamas with large shipments of
money--and he was the one documented in 11 DEA files, and
he was the same one arrested with $5.5 million in cash. I
have certain times and dates, to verify what they were
doing.
    We're going to go back to 1986, in the Kerry Report,
on July 26, 1986. The Kerry Report reported to Congress on
Contra-related narcotics allegations. The State Department
describes the ``Frogman'' case. The Frogman case was a
case out of San Francisco. This case got its nickname from
swimmers who brought cocaine ashore on the West Coast from
a Colombian vessel. It focused on a major Colombian cocaine
trafficker by the name of Alvaro Carvajal. He
was the one that supplied a number of West Coast
smugglers. It involved another Nicaraguan citizen by the
name of Pereida, and two other Nicaraguans--Carlos Cabezas
and Julio Zavala. Now, these guys testified before the
Senate committee that the money they were smuggling, or
profiting from the cocaine that was being smuggled into
San Francisco, was going to the Contras. They testified to
that.
    It's a funny thing and it's a small world: In 1991, I
was conducting an undercover operation in San Francisco,
and the wife of Carlos Cabezas delivered to me five kilos
of cocaine. She was arrested. Carlos Cabezas came in, and
advised me that he, and also Carvajal, was an informant
for the FBI, going back to the Frogman case, and that we
needed to release his wife. I said, ``I think I know you
from somewhere.''
    He went on and he discussed the Oliver North/Contra
narcotics-trafficking operation in detail. Of course, a
report was written on this all the way into 1991, in
reference to Oliver North. He described everything else
that he had done for Oliver North, running drugs for the
Contras.

    Spannaus: Did he describe that Oliver North was
personally involved in this?
    Castillo: He said that they all have personal
contact with Oliver North. Oliver North has given them
permission to do whatever they want.
    I have a recorded statement from the informant at
Ilopango where he goes into detail, that every single
pilot that was involved with the Oliver North/Contra
operation gave Oliver North's name as having permission to
run drugs freely. They all had credentials by the
Salvadoran government and by the CIA so that they would
not be searched.

    Spannaus: You have described that there is an awful lot
of evidence against Oliver North. Oliver North says that
he is ``the most investigated man on this planet.'' This
is the response he gives whenever the question of his
involvement in drugs comes up. What would you say about
that?
    Castillo: Point one: He was not ever investigated
on the narcotics matter, ever. He was investigated on
everything else.
    If Oliver North had been investigated on narcotics
trafficking, they would surely have contacted the agents
down in Central America--which includes me--who conducted
the investigation on him. In October 1986, 1987, I'm not
sure what day it was, but I got a call from the DEA in
Washington, not to close the case on the Contras, because
the Kerry committee wanted access to my reports and the
DEA had told them there were no reports. Maybe that's why
they never contacted the agents down in Central America.
But if somebody is going to do an investigation on the
Contras, and there's a lot of implication of narcotics
trafficking, they should have and would have contacted the
agents in Salvador.

    Spannaus: You sound like you were continuously writing
reports and sending information to Washington. Did you get
any reaction? Did anybody indicate some interest in
investigating this?
    Castillo: Finally, they decided to come down.
What happened was the DEA sent a rookie intelligence
analyst, and another guy from intelligence, and they came
down to Salvador, and after debriefing two of the
informants in the case, went back and reported that it was
a couple of Contra pilots, but it was not organized.
    What happened was they had made up their minds what
they were going to write, before they even got to
Salvador. They just wanted to cover their butt.... In two
days they were able to determine it was just a couple of
pilots and not very organized. Of course, we found out
later on from several testimonies from several of the
pilots who had been testifying before the committees, that
it was a very well-organized operation being run by Oliver
North.

    Spannaus: Is there any way that those two agents could
have arrived at that conclusion based on what you told
them?
    Castillo: Oh, no. What happened was they {were}
told, the people they interviewed were the Contra--the
informant who worked at Ilopango. He told them exactly
what he was reporting to me. It wasn't like, they knew
right away, but they needed to say something, that this
was happening. What happened then, the guy who was in
charge of the Latin American desk for DEA, his name was
John Martsh. And he is now, if I am not mistaken, the
deputy administrator for the DEA; he just got promoted.
This is the same individual who conspired to hide the
truth about the Contras' involvement in trafficking. He
came back to me and he suspended me for three days
without pay, because I was ``too close to my informant.''
This informant, that ``I was too close to,'' was my {only}
backup in El Salvador. He was an informant because he was
the Salvadoran officer who ran the narcotics unit in El
Salvador. He was the one that raided Mr. Grasheim's
residence. To put pressure on me, they came back [saying]
that the DEA manual says I cannot associate with an
informant.
    The DEA does {not} give us backup. And that's what
got Kiki Camarena killed in Mexico. That's what caught
Victor Cortez in Guadalajara, Mexico, because the DEA
would not furnish Hispanic backups on that investigation.
The only person I could work with, and the only person
that was given to me to work with, was this informant. Of
course, we became friends. But DEA policy says you can't
do that. Yet this guy was the adviser, DEA adviser to my
narcotics unit that I built in El Salvador. This guy was
not just an informant. He had credentials as a national
police officer.

    Spannaus: Was this an unusual step for the DEA to take,
to discipline you for that type of thing?
    Castillo: No. They just wanted me to stop. I had
several calls. Mr. Martsh called me to stop reporting
this information.

    Spannaus: He told you to stop reporting?
    Castillo: Yes. To stop reporting it. And if I was
going to do any reporting, I should use the word
``alleged.'' I have a letter from him.

    Spannaus: Did you ever, in any other case, have a
superior tell you to stop reporting?
    Castillo: Never. Never. I have a letter where he
says I should use the word ``allege,'' and that my grammar
was terrible. I'm going back. Every evaluation I've gotten
has been an ``outstanding'' evaluation--up to then. Even
then, even when I got suspended for three days, a month
later, I was put in for a promotion. I had ``outstanding''
evaluations. It is just the fact that the pressure was
being put on me to stop the investigation on the Contras.

    Spannaus: Were there other forms of pressure put on you
also?
    Castillo: Yes, sir. I was ordered to travel to
Salvador constantly, by land, by myself, through guerrilla
country. It's like they were looking for me to get killed
or something. I have proof, that I'll show later on,
that they were trying to get me killed. Without any
backup, they re having me go out undercover on the
Salvadoran military corruption--weapons that were being
seized from the guerrillas, they were selling to the
cartels. They were sending me out there by myself, so I
could get killed.

    Spannaus: You would attribute this to your involvement
in the Contra operation?
    Castillo: With the Contra operation, exactly. I
continued, I continued, and I continued to report this.
We'll go back to where several people were starting to
report this on the Contras. For example, on March 16,
1987, on a plane owned by a narcotics trafficker, U.S.
Customs found an address book and the address and phone
numbers were to Robert Owen, North's courier.
    We go back to the Kerry report in 1988: They confirm
my allegation that there was substantial evidence of drug
smuggling through the war zone on the part of the
individual Contra pilots, mercenaries who worked with the
Contras, and the Contra supporters throughout the region.

    Spannaus: Let's talk about the Kerry Committee report
for a minute. When that report came out, it got very
little attention, it seems. Why was that?
    Castillo: It got very little attention because
there was no credibility on the part of the people who
were testifying before the committees, because they were
all smugglers, they were all Contra pilots that had been
let out to dry, they were all criminals. So there was no
credibility at all on them. But, they never, ever brought
{me,} the agent in charge of El Salvador who conducted
this investigation, to ever go before a committee. They
never contacted the Guatemala office. Why?

    Spannaus: You say you were never contacted by the Kerry
Committee?
    Castillo: Never contacted by the Kerry Committee
in any way, shape, or form. I was never contacted by the
FBI, which was trying to file the violations of the
Neutrality Act out of Costa Rica on John Hull, on Oliver
North, and all those people. {Never} did anybody contact
the DEA [officers] in Central America who actually
conducted the investigation.

    Spannaus: When the congressional committees were
investigating the so-called Iran-Contra affair, they had
the public hearings and a lot of private interviews and
depositions. Did they ever contact you?
    Castillo: No, sir, not at all. And I was the agent
in charge in El Salvador. I was the one who was reporting
everything. Maybe they didn't want to hear the truth.

    Spannaus: What about the special prosecutor, Lawrence
Walsh?
    Castillo: Let me tell you something about
Lawrence Walsh. I had my attorney in San Francisco in 1991
contact Walsh's people to tell them that I had
substantial evidence in regards to Oliver North getting
involved in narcotics trafficking. The DEA did not, in any
way, shape, or form, want for me to contact them. I went
ahead and contacted them secretly. I had a covert meeting
with FBI agent Mike Foster, at my attorney's office in San
Francisco. He was shocked to find out that there was a lot
of evidence that the Contras had been involved, that
Oliver North had been involved, in the knowledge of the
narcotics trafficking.
    When he asked who in the White House did I think knew
about the Contras being involved in narcotics trafficking,
I showed him a picture of George Bush and myself. His
mouth dropped. He couldn't believe what I was tellihim.
He said, ``Cele, if we can prove that the Contras and
Oliver North were involved heavily in narcotics
trafficking, it would be like a grand slam home run!''
Those are his words.

    Spannaus: Did you ever get any feedback from Foster or
Walsh's office?
    Castillo: I called Mike Foster several times, and
he kept telling me that he still hadn't gotten approval
from Mr. Walsh to continue the investigation.
    That was the end of the investigation. They weren't about
to open up another can of worms, because what happened was,
everything was dropping, everything was going off. They were
working on [Defense Secretary Caspar] Weinberger at the time....
They weren't interested in conducting a narcotics
investigation.

    Spannaus: Have you looked at the final report issued by
Lawrence Walsh?
    Castillo: Yes, sir. I have that. Nowhere
in this whole report does it indicate that there is any
narcotics investigation at all.

    Spannaus: There's no reference to narcotics?
    Castillo: No reference to any narcotics
investigation. Oliver North is saying that he is the most
investigated person--and if he is, then why isn't there
anything in the Walsh report?

    Spannaus: In the course of your 12 years with the DEA,
how many cases or prosecutions were you involved in, would
you estimate?
    Castillo: Thousands of them. All over the
country, all over the world. I was constantly having
fugitives arrested.... I was an agent who was not scared to
get involved. I lost my family because of that. I was just
a workaholic; I believed in the system; I believed in the
agency, and I believed that what was right is right, and
what was wrong is wrong. And it didn't take me 20 years to
try and figure this out. I found out after my six years
that the DEA was corrupt--in the sense that there was a
major coverup. We were losing agents because of political
fights within Washington, and I decided to leave. And I
negotiated my leave from the DEA.

    Spannaus: You say you're involved in thousands of
prosecutions. So you're pretty familiar with what kind of
evidence is needed to get a conviction in a drug case. Do
you think that the evidence that you compiled concerning
Oliver North would have been sufficient to get a
conviction?
    Castillo: Absolutely. Absolutely, from the
get-go. I kept waiting for the phones to ring. I kept
waiting for someone to call me. ``We need you to testify
before a committee. We need you to tell us what you have
on Oliver North.'' Nobody. {The phone never rang}. There
was enough evidence, especially on violation of the
federal narcotics law, where if a U.S. official has
knowledge that there's narcotics trafficking being
conducted by somebody, and he does not report it, that's a
violation of the law right there. We had the Contras; they
were heavily, heavily involved in narcotics trafficking.

    Spannaus: What do you think about the idea of Oliver
North becoming a U.S. senator?
    Castillo: Well, it's going to be the first felon,
convicted felon, to become a U.S. senator. He should be in
jail. He should be in jail. On his own words, he lied to
Congress, he lied to everybody, he deceived, he's
deceiving the American people right now. I think people do
not know the real fact that he was heavily involved in
narcotics trafficking--his organization was heavily
involved in narcotics trafficking. And he had {knowledge}
that these people were involved in narcotics trafficking.

    Spannaus: That knowledge would be sufficient for him
to have been convicted?
    Castillo: Absolutely. But nobody ever
contacted me down in Central America. Now, why? Was there
a conspiracy to protect him? Was there a conspiracy to
protect the President of the United States, George Bush,
or the vice president at the time? Apparently there was.
    All of these things happened. It's documented, it's
in black and white, I have case file numbers where it can
be obtained. The DEA refuses to release that information.
    The funny thing about it is: They're talking about
Oliver North with the Contras. Well, there is a case file
in 1991 that came out of Washington D.C., that implicates
Oliver North. The file number is under Oliver North's name
for smuggling weapons to the Philippines with known
narcotics traffickers. Now, he's under the investigation
by DEA and he's running for U.S. senator: Explain that one
to me.

    Spannaus: And you believe this case is still open with
the DEA?
    Castillo: Well, I don't know, maybe it is. Nobody
can get access to it.

    Spannaus: Is there anything else you would want to tell
the people of Virginia about Oliver North?
    Castillo: One of the things that Oliver North is
stating, is that I am doing this because he is running for
U.S. senator. But, the truth of the matter is that I have
been trying to report this going back all the way to
1985-86, then in a memo in 1989, when I met with Walsh's
people in 1991; there was a newspaper article that came
out with this story in 1993, and in 1994 the Associated
Press picked it up again. So it's a continuation of my
attempt to educate U.S. citizens to the fact that Oliver
North had knowledge that his operations were heavily
involved in narcotics trafficking.

    Spannaus: Are you going to come to Virginia and tell
your story to the people of Virginia?
    Castillo: Absolutely, I will go to Virginia. And
the other thing I will say: I've never been paid 1 cent to
tell my story. Never. When I found out that nobody was listening
at the time to my story, I decided to write a book, a year ago.
    One of the other things I want to remind the
Virginians, is that I kept a daily journal of everything I
did with the DEA. That's why I'm able to put these stories
together with times and dates and so forth. So everything
was documented....
    Even Jack Blum, the special counsel for Kerry
Committee, resigned his post saying, ``I'm sick to death of
the truth I cannot tell.'' So it's not me, there are other
people out there who are saying the same thing.
    In the Kerry Report, it says there is impressive
evidence on the record that U.S. officials who turned a
blind eye to narcotics trafficking and opposed the
investigation of foreign narcotics smuggling, must also
bear the responsibility for what is happening in the
streets of the United States today.
    And Oliver North should be responsible for that.
Oliver North cannot stand there and say that nobody died
of the narcotics that the Contras ran into the United
States--which could be the ``Frogman'' case, or any other
case. He cannot guarantee me that.

[end of transcript]


Sincerely,

Duane J. Roberts
eaou669@ea.oac.uci.edu

Undergraduate Student
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[ Article crossposted from alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater ]
[ Author was John Q. Public ]
[ Posted on 16 Dec 1995 15:58:44 GMT ]
[ Original subject: Washington Weekly: Mena news from 12/11 issue ]

with permission; not to be used for commercial purposes

COUNTDOWN TO MENA TRIAL


ARKANSAS ATTORNEY GENERAL SUBPOENAED IN MENA CASE

    The defense of Buddy Young in the Mena trial  is  handled  by
the  Arkansas  Attorney  General's office. Criminal actions taken
by the Attorney General Winston Bryant, however,  have  now  made
him  a  witness  in  the  trial.  "We  have  served a subpoena on
Attorney General  Winston  Bryant  who  we  have  discovered  was
involved  in obstruction of justice," says Robert Meloni, counsel
to Terry Reed.  "He had ordered the removal of all  of  the  Mena
files from his office in order to circumvent a FOIA request."

    "There's an affidavit that we just got from  Bill  Duncan....
he  was  ordered  to  purge  the Attorney General's office of all
files. There was also a demand for those files by Terry  Reed  in
this  case  in  February  1992. And at that point we had moved to
compel the Attorney General's office to produce  them  and  their
response at that point was, we don't have them," Meloni said.

    "We have three people from the Arkansas State Police, in  the
criminal  intelligence  division,  who  we  deposed  this summer:
Michelle Tudor, John Morrow, I forget the  third  one,  who  have
testified  that  they were told to remove files and destroy files
in the Mena case."

    "So we are trying to subpoena him [Winston  Bryant],  because
we  caught him in a lie.  They are moving files around, you know,
it's like a shell game with these Mena files. We  are  trying  to
depose him, we are going to make him a witness in our case"

    "Winston Bryant walked into a situation  of  obstruction  and
concealment, and he continued the pattern."

    The Attorney General's office has filed a motion to quash the
subpoena.



DEFENSE MOVES TO SUPPRESS CIA EVIDENCE

    The defense in the Reed Mena trial  has  filed  a  motion  to
suppress  CIA  evidence.  "This  motion  is saying that the judge
should exclude all evidence concerning  CIA  activities  at  Mena
because  we  have  been  unable to establish a link between Buddy
Young and all of those activities, even if those activities  were
true," says Robert Meloni, counsel to Terry Reed. "Why the motion
doesn't make any sense is because we never had to  establish  any
link  because we haven't had the trial yet. That's what you do at
a trial. And we do have a link, but this  is  not  the  time  and
place to establish it."

    "I think they are just doing it so they can  get  it  in  the
paper,"  Meloni  explains.  "It appeared in the Arkansas Democrat
Gazette two days later. Nobody called me up  to  ask  my  opinion
about  it.  They  just put it in, I think just polluting the jury
pool with this garbage."

    "I am almost certain the judge is going to deny  it,"  Meloni
told the Washington Weekly.

    Trial is scheduled for January 16,  but Reed's legal team has
moved  for  another continuance. "We are getting stonewalled by a
few federal agencies, the FBI, the Department  of  Justice,  they
are moving to quash a number of subpoenas."



BARRY SEAL'S "FAT LADY" FOUND IN FLORIDA!

    Barry Seal's C-123 cargo plane was shot down  over  Nicaragua
in 1986 with Eugene Hasenfus being the only survivor, right?

    Wrong! It has long been suspected that  Barry  Seal  had  two
identical  C-123 cargo planes, and now Terry Reed has located the
remaining one outside a museum near Titusville, Florida. "We have
been  able  to  trace  the  registration history directly back to
Richard Secord of Iran Contra fame." Terry Reed told Chuck Harder
of For the People Radio Network.  "So we have good, solid linkage
now between the Iran Contra scandal and Barry Seal's [gun running
and drug smuggling] operation," Reed said.

    Reed received a tip about the airplane after he had  appeared
on  a  talk radio program. A mechanic who had worked on the plane
told Reed where he could find it and said  that  it  was  bearing
Honduran registration.

    "We subpoenaed  the  FAA's  records  out  of  Oklahoma  City,
showing  the  correspondence  between  the FAA and one of Richard
Secord's executive officers through a  company  called  Corporate
Air Services," Reed said.



STARR SAYS HE WON'T TOUCH MENA

    In a speech to  the  Century  City  Bar  Association  in  Los
Angeles  Wednesday  November  29,  Kenneth  Starr  responded to a
question whether Whitewater had anything to do with  the  airport
at Mena, Arkansas.

    "The answer is, the scope of our investigation,  the  subject
matter  of  our investigation, does not run to any activity which
has been reported in the press, or alleged activity  reported  in
the press, with respect to possible illegal activities in various
administrations at the now legendary Mena airport."

    In the past  year,  questions  asked  by  Starr's  people  of
witnesses  with  knowledge  of  Mena  have led these witnesses to
conclude that Starr was interested in the affair.




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>>Spin control?

The following paragraph was printed on the front page of the Friday,
November 24, 1995 issue of *The Wall Street Journal* in the Washington
Wire column:

   MENA PROBE: House Banking Chairman Leach sends colleagues a letter on
   |plans to investigate allegations of drug smuggling and money laundering
   at the Mena, Ark., airport during the 1980s. Leach says he will also
   examine "whether past government reviews and investigations
   associated with Mena Airport were handled properly."

The following excerpt is from a newspaper article written by columnist
Robert D. Novak that was published in the Sunday, December 3, 1995 issue
of *The Chicago Sun-Times* on page 43:

   House Banking Chairman James Leach, in a memo to his committee's
   members, has suggested that his low-key Whitewater investigation may
   lead to hearings on a high-profile issue: allegations of money
   laundering and drug smuggling at Mena Airport in southwestern Arkansas.

   Leach disclosed that investigators are probing "whether businesses
   based at, or operating through, the Mena Airport engaged in systematic
   money laundering." They also are exploring, he said, whether the source
   of laundered money was convicted drug smuggler Barry Seal during
   the time he said he was working for the Central Intelligence Agency.

   Published accounts for years have linked wrongdoing at Mena to the
   then-governor of Arkansas, Bill Clinton. But Leach's memo did not
   mention Clinton and asserted "the Mena-related allegations involve
   possible improper conduct spanning several federal administrations."

The following paragraph was published on the front page of the Friday,
December 29, 1995 issue of *The Wall Street Journal* in the Washington
Wire column:

   The House is investigating alleged drug smuggling and money
   laundering at Mena Airport in Arkansas. Congressional investigators
   already have met with officials from the intelligence community, the
   FBI and the Drug Enforcement Administration. To date, they have turned
   up nothing to indicate Clinton was associated with any wrongdoing at
   the remote airport.


Sincerely,

Duane J. Roberts
eaou669@ea.oac.uci.edu

Undergraduate Student
Criminology, Law, and Society
School of Social Ecology
University of California, Irvine





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HOUSE PANEL TAKES A LOOK AT MENA
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By Rowan Scarborough
(Washington Times National Weekly Edition, Jan. 22-28, 1996)

The House banking committee is investigating suspicions of
criminal activities at Arkansas' Mena Airport, trying to separate
fact from fiction in a list of accusations about drug dealing,
gun running and government cover-ups during the 1980s.

The inquiry is a spinoff of the panel's extensive Whitewater
probe, during which Arkansas sources repeatedly urged
congressional staffers to explore dealings said to have occurred
at the municipal airport while Bill Clinton was governor and
Ronald Reagan was president.

Rep. Jim Leach, Iowa Republican and chairman of the committee,
agreed in November. He issued a memo to committee members saying
staffers would try to determine whether money from Barry Seal, a
drug dealer, was laundered by businesses in and near the secluded
airport in the Ouachita Mountains 130 miles southwest of Little
Rock.

The memo outlining Mr. Leach's intentions was disclosed by
Insight magazine in its Jan. 29 issue.

Mr. Leach's task is daunting, considering the breadth of the
rumors buzzing around Seal, a convicted cocaine dealer and
flamboyant aviator. Seal will be no help in sifting the truth.
Columbian drug kings had him slain near his home in Baton Rouge,
La., in 1986 after he became a Drug Enforcement Administration
(DEA) informant.

"This is one of the most complex, tangled tales that we've come
across ever," says a committee investigator and Whitewater
watcher. "Our objective is to investigate this, and to either
prove or disprove the allegations that are floating around Mena.
The chairman sees as much virtue in laying these rumors to rest
as in exposing a scandal."

It has been alleged that Seal used Mena as a base to ferry
cocaine, launder money and supply the Nicaraguan Contras -- all
while working for the DEA, the Reagan White House and the CIA.

A banking committee staffer said Jan. 17 that at this point the
panel's inquiry is confined to one issue. "This is a money-
laundering investigation," the aide said. "It may lead into other
things. We have no interest in replowing old Iran-Contra ground."

The laundering was uncovered by an Internal Revenue Service
official, William Duncan, and an Arkansas state policeman,
Russell Welch. They believe there is enough evidence to bring
charges against Seal's associates but claim they were stymied by
federal authorities who wanted to keep a lid on clandestine
activities at Mena.

The House panel has requested documents from the IRS, the CIA and
the DEA but has not yet chosen to subpoena witnesses, the aide
said Jan. 17. Investigators have interviewed Mr. Duncan, Mr.
Welch and Bill Alexander, a former Democratic congressman from
Arkansas who has sought a federal inquiry for years, beginning
when he was a member of the House.

"I feel that the people of Arkansas and the people of the nation
deserve to know the facts about the illegal drug trafficking and
blatant money laundering that took place at Mena, Ark., during
the 1980s," said Mr. Alexander, who practices law now in McLean,
Va. and in Jonesboro, Ark.

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CONTINUED INVESTIGATION OF SENIOR-LEVEL EMPLOYEE MISCONDUCT
AND MISMANAGEMENT AT THE INTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE:
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Hearing before the Commerce, Consumer, and Monetary Affairs
Subcommittee of the Committee on Government Operations,
House of Representatives, One Hundred Second Congress,
First Session, July 24, 1991.
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The following excerpts are from pages 64-73, 85-86.

Congressman Doug Barnard, Jr. (D-Georgia) was Chairman of the Commerce,
Consumer, and Monetary Affairs Subcommittee in 1991.


   Mr. BARNARD. Thank you very much.
   Our next panel consists of Mr. William C. Duncan, a former IRS senior
Criminal Investigation employee, and Mr. N. Paul Whitmore, group manager
of the Criminal Investigation Division of the Internal Revenue Service.
   Gentlemen, we appreciate you again being with us today for this important
hearing. We will include your entire testimony, without objection, in the
record and would like for your statements, if possible, to be summarized.
Thank you again for being with us.
   We will first hear from Mr. Duncan. Incidently, I want to congratulate
you. I understand that you are now gainfully employed again.
   Mr. DUNCAN. I finally got a job; yes, sir.
   Mr. BARNARD. Chief investigator of the Arkansas attorney general's
office. I am glad that you are now employed.
   Mr. DUNCAN. Thank you, sir. Would it be better if I just responded to
questions from the panel because it takes about 20 to 25 minutes for me
to read this?
   Mr. BARNARD. Could you just sort of summarize to begin with? We have
some questions for you and Mr. Whitmore, but couldn't you just sort of
summarize what your statement includes?
   Mr. DUNCAN. This was my summary.
   Mr. BARNARD. A 20-page summary.

   STATEMENT OF WILLIAM C. DUNCAN, CHIEF INVESTIGATOR,
   OFFICE OF ATTORNEY GENERAL, STATE OF ARKANSAS

   Mr. DUNCAN. No, sir. It is about 9 pages.
   I can just say that Mr. Whitmore and I have testified truthfully about
the events that occurred in connection with my testimony before the
Subcommittee on Crime and m briefing process. We have provided documentation
pertaining to our trips here. We have testified on several occasions, and
we volunteered for and submitted to polygraph exams which we passed. And we
also cooperated with Treasury IG in their extensive investigation. I don't
know what more we can do.
   Mr. BARNARD. Well, we have some questions that we will direct to you.

   [The prepared statement of Mr. Duncan follows]


			  TESTIMONY OF
			WILLIAM C. DUNCAN
			   BEFORE THE
      SUBCOMMITTEE ON COMMERCE, CONSUMER, AND MONETARY AFFAIRS
	      HOUSE COMMITTEE ON GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS
			  JULY 24, 1991


Mr. Chairman and Members of the Subcommittee:

Thank you for the opportunity to appear before you today. Since my
testimony before you on July 27, 1989, I have cooperated completely
with investigators from the U. S. Treasury, Inspector General's Office
and Government Accounting Office in an attempt to deal with the
integrity problems and criminal acts of IRS Chief Counsel Attorneys.
To my knowledge, not one of the IRS Attorneys has been punished,
additional IRS Executives apparently have provided false, misleading or
incomplete testimony to Treasury IG Investigators, and the conspiracy
to cover up the illegal acts continues. The system now in place for
investigating Senior Level IRS integrity problems has not worked.

My prior testimony before you related to instructions given to me by
IRS Chief Counsel Attorneys concerning my testimony before the House
Judiciary Subcommittee on Crime on February 26, 1988, about criminal
investigations in which I participated while assigned as an IRS Special
Agent to the Fayetteville, AR Post-of-Duty. These joint investigations
were initiated because of information which we received during 1983 and
1984 concerning the Barry Seal smuggling organization's move from
Louisiana to the Mena, AR Airport.

By the end of 1987, it was apparent that thousands of law enforcement
manhours and an enormous amount of evidence of drug smuggling, aiding
and abetting drug smugglers, conspiracy, perjury, money laundering and
illegal modifications to smuggling aircraft had gone to waste. Not only
were no indictments ever returned on any of the individuals under
investigation for their role in the Mena Operation, there was a
complete breakdown in the judicial system. The United States Attorney,
Western Judicial District of Arkansas, assured us that there were no
national security or other issues involved which would impede
investigation and prosecution of criminal violations in Arkansas,
however, he refused to issue subpoenas for critical witnesses,
interfered in the investigations, apparently mislead grand juries about
evidence and availability of witnesses, refused to allow investigators
to present evidence to the grand jury, and in general made a mockery of
the entire investigative and judicial process. The Subcommittee on
Crime, through media reports, became aware of public concern over
lack of indictments and requested my testimony.

As you are aware from our testimony and statements made to your
investigators by Hayden Gregory, Chief Counsel for the Subcommittee
on Crime, if I had followed the directives of [deleted] and
[deleted], I would have completely mislead the Subcommittee
about the problems which we encountered in the investigations, and
ultimately would have perjured myself in connection with an allegation
about a bribe from Barry Seal to a high ranking Department of Justice
official. The intense IRS Disclosure Litigation process which we
described was purely and simply designed to impede the Congress of
the United States in their investigation of issues which impact on
the very heart of our judicial system, and ultimately the security
of this country.

Why did this happen? What could have been important enough for the
Department of Justice and the Department of Treasury to join hands
in an effort which resulted in such interference? Perhaps there are
answers. Evidence gathered during the last year and a half indicates
that during the period 1984 through 1986, the Mena, AR Airport was
an important hub/waypoint for transshipment of drugs, weapons and
Central American "Contra" and Panamanian Defense Force personnel who
were receiving covert training in a variety of specialties in the
Nella Community, located ten miles north of the Mena, AR Airport.
The evidence details a bizarre mixture of drug smuggling, gun running,
money laundering and covert operations by Barry Seal, his associates,
and both employees and contract operatives of the United States
Intelligence Services. The testimony reveals a scheme whereby
massive amounts of cocaine were smuggled into the State of Arkansas,
and profits were partially used to fund covert operations. Two
witnesses testified that one of the Western District of Arkansas
Assistant U. S. Attorneys told them that the U. S. Attorney's Office
received a call to shut down the investigations involving Seal and
his associates.

Is this the reason why the IRS went to such great lengths to
cause me to withhold information from Congress? I don't know. It is
obvious that their interference had little to with 6103 or 6E
information. There had to be another reason. Something so important,
that it would cause IRS Attorneys to deny even the meeting during which
the subornation of the perjury occurred.

I have been asked to comment on the Treasury Inspector General's
Office Investigation into this matter. After reviewing unredacted
portions of the investigative report, I can tell you that it contains
many inaccuracies and it should be the subject of intense review by
this subcommittee. The conclusions exhibited in the report allow
criminal violations to go unpunished, and provide fertile ground
for similar violations in the future....

When this subcommittee formally requested my testimony, the pressures
from [deleted], and my immediate supervisor [deleted] increased
dramatically. [deleted] told me not to even call the Little Rock,
AR District Office to inquire as to the location of case files concerning
the Mena Investigations. I was not allowed to either inquire about
the files or return to Little Rock in time to review the
files for information relating to my contacts with the Disclosure
Litigation Attorneys....

It is ironic that the Internal Revenue Service promotes use of
polygraph examinations in conduct of criminal investigations of
American taxpayers because they, along with most other investigative
and intelligence agencies, know that polygraph is an excellent
investigative tool for determination of the truthfulness of
witnesses. Paul Whitmore and I volunteered for, and submitted to,
polygraph examinations administered by the United States Secret
Service, because we were eager, as we told Commissioner Goldberg,
to prove the truthfulness of our testimony. I again challenge
[names deleted] and any other Internal Revenue Service personnel
who dispute our testimony, to take a polygraph so that the truth can
be displayed and this matter put finally to rest.

Unfortunately, Mr. Chairman, it is unlikely that any of the IRS
executives and attorneys who were involved in this matter will ever
take polygraph examinations, and they will probably never admit to
their deception. They know full well that they do not have to submit
to polygraph, and that they have protection within their powerful circle
of co-conspirators who have distorted the truth so many times on behalf
of this organization that they now comfortably perceive the truth to be
whatever the Internal Revenue Service tells them it is. Loyalty is an
important and valued asset. But never, ever, should loyalty be
justification for perjury. History is filled with tragedies resulting
from deception and crimes in the name of loyalty, patriotism and
national security. It seems that most of America keeps their hands over
their eyes, even when it comes to evidence of U.S. Government involvement
in drug smuggling and IRS corruption that erodes voluntary taxpayer
compliance, and ultimately, the very fiscal foundation of this country.
With the exception of a few in depth articles by publications such as the
Boston Phoenix, even the media has refused to demand answers. Please
do not allow this matter to remain unresolved.

The personal cost? The loss of an unblemished federal law enforcement
career and my retirement; emotional and financial trauma beyond
description; my portrayal by IRS Management as someone who turned their
back on their organization, in other words, a traitor; inability to obtain
other federal law enforcement employment because of perceptions that I am a
"whistleblower" and because the Internal Revenue Service withheld
my closing evaluation for over eighteen months....

I am thankful for the Attorney General of the State of Arkansas
who viewed my refusal to perjure myself as a quality which he wanted
in his administration. Otherwise, I might still be unable to find
employment as a criminal investigator. Unfortunately, reprisal against
me for truthful testimony and cooperation with congress continues.
The U. S. Attorney in Western, Arkansas has sent word on two occasions
that his office will not handle any Medicaid Fraud cases for the State of
Arkansas as long as I am on staff with the Medicaid Fraud Division.
In other words, he is willing to allow Medicaid Fraud, which affects
healthcare of the poor and elderly, to go unchecked in the entire western
half of the State of Arkansas, in order to sabotage my first full-time
employment in nineteen months. His actions have caused us to have to
take all of our criminal cases to the Eastern Judicial District
U. S. Attorney, placing an unfair workload on both he and his staff.

How is it that IRS and Department of Justice Attorneys continue this
type of action with no perception of risk. Why are we powerless to
stop it? The Attorney General of the United States should directly
intervene with [deleted] to stop retaliation against me. Mr. Goldberg
should take charge and begin to deal with integrity problems
at the top of his organization. He should also, very quickly arrive at a
solution in order to fully restore my Federal Law Enforcement career,
with full benefits and compensation for the effects of IRS corruption
on me and my family. He should gladly provide Mr. Whitmore and his
family full compensation for any losses which they have incurred, and
allow him to effectively continue to progress in his management career.
People who cooperate with truthful testimony should be promoted, not
demoted. We have fulfilled our responsibilities to the Internal
Revenue Service and Congress under extreme duress. If the Commissioner
of Internal Revenue and the Attorney General refuse to fulfill the
responsibilities of their jobs, they should be replaced with someone
who will.

What can be done to protect IRS Whistleblowers? The first thing you
can do it make sure that whistleblowers are given the guidance and
emotional support which they are going to need to get through some very
tough times. We were totally unprepared for the emotional trauma of
dealing with an enemy which we really didn't understand. How many IRS
Employees know that IRS Attorneys are not there to protect them
individually, but are there to protect the IRS Organization? There
is no Attorney-Client relationship between an employee and an IRS
Disclosure Litigation Attorney. The employee will not even be able
to obtain the briefing records prepared by the attorney. Yet I
was told repeatedly that I had to use the assigned Disclosure
Litigation Attorney, that I had no choice.

Finally, you can insure, that complaints about retaliation are
promptly addressed, and that action is taken to intercede, and
provide immediate relief to the extent possible. People are not
going to willingly expose themselves and their families to economic
and emotional peril, without some assurance that there will be real
support from Congress.

During a portion of the past three years I found myself filled with
feelings of rage, disgust and helplessness as I discovered that I
was powerless to deal with managers within IRS who perceived me as a
troublemaker, and even a traitor, because I insisted on telling the
truth. I believe that I exhibited the ultimate in loyalty to the
Internal Revenue Service. I did not begin dealing with anyone outside
my organization until I felt that I had exhausted all avenues within the
organization. I sought guidance from each of my supervisors, who, until
I became involved with this subcommittee, did nothing but encourage me
to go back and go through the same horrifying process again. I feel now
that I have done all that I can do. I despise the corruption that I have
witnessed first hand, but I have had to displace my anger toward the
people who participated in it. I am in the process of trying to
reconstruct some semblance of life and security for my family. It is
my sincere hope that others within the Internal Revenue Service will
read the transcripts of the hearings conducted by this subcommittee and
learn from them.

   Mr. BARNARD. As we begin our interrogation of these two gentlemen, I
want to thank both of you for coming to the subcommittee to tell your
story. I think that your testimony in the past has helped us mold an IRS
of the future that will certainly not tolerate situations like the ones
that you have experienced, and hopefully ill prevent any retaliation
against whistleblowers in the future. Mr. Duncan, if IRS had given you
more latitude in your Justice Department testimony in 1988, would you
still be an IRS employee today?
   Mr. DUNCAN. I am certain that I would.
   Mr. BARNARD. Why do you believe that?
   Mr. DUNCAN. I thought I had the greatest job in the Internal Revenue
Service. I thoroughly enjoyed my work, and I enjoyed the coworkers.
   Mr. BARNARD. Where do you think that your investigation would have led?
   Mr. DUNCAN. Well at the time I testified before the Subcommittee on
Crime, we had just touched the tip of the iceberg, in my opinion. Since
then we have received additional testimony that there were a lot more
things going on, there was a lot more money that was being laundered. All
I wanted to do was to be able to respond truthfully and answer questions
completely before the Subcommittee on Crime.
   Mr. BARNARD. What has happened to that investigation since you left it?
   Mr. DUNCAN. The IRS investigation? To my knowledge, it has been closed.
   Mr. BARNARD. What about the Justice Department?
   Mr. DUNCAN. The statutes of limitations have expired on the cases and,
to my knowledge, nothing else will be done.
   Mr. BARNARD. Mr. Duncan, do you believe that the information on the
$350,000 bribe to a high-level Justice official was valid?
   Mr. DUNCAN. That is not a determination for me to make. I can only
communicate that the law enforcement officer who received that information
told me on numerous occasions that the informant that provided the
information had provided in the past nothing but good information.
   Mr. BARNARD. Had he ever been tested, as far as a lie detector test is
concerned?
   Mr. DUNCAN. I am not aware of that.
   Mr. BARNARD. Mr. Duncan, why do you believe that [deleted] and
[deleted] requested that you not offer this information to the  Justice
Subcommittee?
   Mr. DUNCAN. I have asked myself that question thousands of times.
Based on the information we have received in the last year and a half it
appears that things were going on at that airport that could have been
related to the Contra resupply, I don't know. I perceive that they wanted
to protect the Internal Revenue Service from anything controversial.
   Mr. BARNARD. What has happened in that particular case since you left,
to your knowledge?
   Mr. DUNCAN. Information is still coming in, additional witnesses are
testifying, and we are gathering information right now.
   Mr. BARNARD. Are you associated with that case now as an investigator
for the Arkansas attorney general?
   Mr. DUNCAN. I receive information and pass it along to the attorney
general, and also to Congressman Alexander.










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The following text is from a photocopy of a letter that
was originally sent to Mark Swaney, then-President of
the Arkansas Committee, a student organization that was
investigating Mena, by Robert J. DeGostin, Jr., Office
of the Governor, State of Arkansas, on August 12, 1991.
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			   STATE OF ARKANSAS
			OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR            Bill Clinton
			     State Capitol                  Governor
			   Little Rock 72201



   August 12, 1991

   Mr. Mark Swaney, President
   Arkansas Committee
   Arkansas Union Room 517
   Fayetteville, Arkansas  72701

   Dear Mr. Swaney:

   Thank you for your recent letter to Governor Clinton regarding
   your desire to have a state grand jury investigate possible
   criminal activity in the Mena, Arkansas area. The Governor has
   asked me to respond on his behalf.

   It is my understanding that Attorney General Bryant and Rep. Bill
   Alexander have brought this matter to the attention of Lawrence
   Walsh's Office in Washington, D.C. It appears to me that a
   meeting with Attorney General Bryant, rather than Governor
   Clinton, would be more appropriate at this time.

   The Governor appreciates your bringing this matter to his
   attention.

   Sincerely,


   R O B E R T  J .  D E G O S T I N , J R .

   Robert J. DeGostin, Jr.
   Senior Advisor on Criminal Justice

   RJD: prn






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The following text is from a photocopy of a letter
that was originally sent to Arkansas Governor Bill
Clinton by Arkansas Congressman William Alexander
on January 26, 1989.
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BILL ALEXANDER, M.C.                         233 CANNON HOUSE OFFICE BUILDING
     ARKANSAS                                       WASHINGTON, DC 20515
							(202) 225-4078
   COMMITTEE ON
  APPROPRIATIONS


		    CONGRESS OF THE UNITED STATES


			  January 26, 1989


   Gov. Bill Clinton
   State Capitol
   Little Rock, Arkansas

   Dear Bill:

   The investigation into alleged drugs and gun smuggling at Mena
   airport can be cleared up by a local grand jury that will require
   state funds. Deputy Prosecutor Charles Black of Mt. Ida, the state
   police and congressional investigators are interested in convening
   such a grand jury, which is probably the only way that the matter
   will be resolved and laid to rest once and for all.

   Black estimates that about $25,000 will be required, because
   witnesses will have to be brought in from out of state. This figure
   cannot be paid for out of local resources. Black knows of witnesses
   who will testify that planes loaded with guns went to Central America
   and returned loaded with drugs.

   Certain DEA agents have stated that the late convicted smuggler Barry
   Seal was flying weapons to Central America in violation of U.S.
   foreign policy and in return, the federal government secretly allowed
   Seal to smuggle drugs back into the United States. Congressman Bill
   Hughes' Subcommittee on Crime has learned independently that at the
   time Seal was working on the famous Nicaraguan "sting" operation for
   the DEA and the CIA in 1984, he was still running drugs. Sources in
   Mena indicate that smuggling activities at Mena continued after
   Seal's murder in 1986 and are still continuing.

   My involvement in the case stems from two sources: I initiated a
   General Accounting Office investigation into drug trafficking from
   Latin America to the United States, and secondly, because of my
   position as the senior ranking Democrat on the Appropriations
   Subcommittee that handles Justice Department funding.

   Prosecutor Black, State Police Investigator Russell Welch, and others
   who have been involved in the investigation have done an exemplary
   job, but they have been frustrated by the failure of some federal
   officials to proceed with the case. The only way to get the matter
   cleared up is to convene the local grand jury. Otherwise it will
   continue to fester and be a thorn in the side of local, state and
   congressional resources. I hope you will grant Mr. Black's request
   for funding in this matter.

   With kindest regards, I am.

				  Sincerely,


				  BILL ALEXANDER
				  Member of Congress














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This is a truly disgusting article.  It alleges that Bill Clinton had
a taste for marijuana, cocaine and young women.

One of the sources for this report comes from files kept by
former Clinton security man, Luther Parks.  Parks was gunned
down in Little Rock.  No one has ever been arrested for his
1993 murder.

Larry
____________


"Cocaine and toga parties: Clinton stands accused"
By  Ambrose Evans-Pritchard
THE SUNDAY TELEGRAPH (London)
July 17, 1994

(Copyright 1994 ) The Telegraph plc, London)
     When Bill Clinton was asked during the Presidential election
campaign whether he had ever used drugs, he gave one of his
carefully crafted, lawyerly answers. Yes, he had smoked two or
three "joints" of marijuana at Oxford, but had never inhaled. And
he insisted that he had never violated a drug law within the
borders of the US.
     Now new evidence is emerging that Mr. Clinton may have been more
than a casual user of marijuana. A variety of witnesses interviewed
by The Sunday Telegraph at the President's former Arkansas haunts
claim his drug habit stretched well into his political career.
     The pattern alleged by these witnesses goes far beyond questions
of inappropriate personal conduct. At the time Mr Clinton was
either Attorney-General or Governor of Arkansas. He was part of the
law-enforcement machinery that gave stiff prison sentences to drug
felons.
      And if the President once had a major drug habit, when did it
end? 1986? 1990? 1994?
      Perhaps the most compelling allegations revolve around Roger
Clinton - rock musician, perennial ne'er-do-well, and the President's
younger brother.
      In summer 1984 Roger spent two months as a non-paying guest at
Vantage Point, an upmarket apartment complex in Little Rock. At the
time big-brother Bill was in his second term as Governor.
      Roger's rooms were in the corporate suite, number B107, which was
separated from the administrative offices by a thin partition. On
the other side of the wall was Jane Parks, manager of the complex.
      Until now Mrs Parks, 41, had remained stubbornly silent about
what she saw and heard while Roger was at Vantage Point.
      But following the mysterious murder of her husband Jerry last
year, and the failure of the Little Rock Police Department to solve
the crime, she has decided to speak out. She is in the advanced
stages of multiple sclerosis and she feels she no longer has
anything to lose.
      During the time she worked next to Roger's apartment, she could
hear the conversations in B107 very clearly.
      Governor Clinton was a frequent visitor.  There was drug use at
these gatherings, she claims, and she could clearly distinguish
Bill's voice as he chatted with his brother about the quality of
the marijuana they were smoking.
     She said she could also hear them talking about the cocaine as
they passed it back and forth.
     When Roger finally moved out, Mrs Parks found drug paraphernalia
left in the kitchen drawer, and cocaine spilt on the furniture.
     It was not uncommon during the brothers' alleged drug-taking
sessions in the apartment for them to be joined by young women.
     Apart from sharing the drugs, the women on occasion had sex with
both the Clinton men, she alleges.
     "What really concerned me were the young girls going in and out
of there," Mrs Parks said. Other tenants in the complex frequently
complained to the management about the rowdy scenes in B107.
     Mrs Parks's testimony is backed up by another resident of Vantage
Point, who wishes to remain anonymous. She told me that she saw the
Governor enter the apartment on at least three occasions.
     She also heard some of the activity going on inside while visiting
Mrs Parks's office, and backed up claims of drug parties.
    "Bill had his girlfriends in there," she said. "You could hear
them through the walls. Some of them looked like very young girls
to me."
     Mrs Parks relayed her concerns to her husband, Jerry, a former
police officer who was then branch manager of a private security
firm in Little Rock. He also occasionally worked as a private
detective.
     Fearing difficulties for his wife in her capacity as the building
manager, he decided to conduct his own discreet surveillance of
Roger's apartment, writing down names, dates, and detailed accounts
of who was coming and going.
    He kept his handwritten notes in a file, which was stored in a
dresser in their bedroom. After Roger Clinton moved out of the
complex, Mr Parks gave up his inquiries.
     By a quirk of fate, in 1992 Mr Parks, who by then had set up his
own firm, was awarded the security contract for the Clinton-Gore
Presidential campaign headquarters in Little Rock.
     According to records at Mr Parks's firm, American Contract
Services, he was not paid immediately. In early 1993 he made
repeated calls to the White House demanding payment.
     The money finally came in July. Just a few days later the secret
file was stolen from the Parks's dresser in a sophisticated
burglary. The telephone wires were cut to disable the house's
high-tech alarm system, and the file was the only item taken.
     Shortly after the burglary, Mr Parks received two telephone calls
which, Mrs Parks said, left him in a state of paranoia. "He was
popping my valium. He took a pistol with him everywhere, even to
collect the post from the end of the driveway," she said.
      Two months later he was shot several times at short range at a
suburban intersection outside Little Rock.
      A police source in Arkansas said that Mr Parks had made
duplicates of the secret file and entrusted them to people in
Little Rock.
      One set has been passed on to a federal law enforcement agency.
The contents, he said, supported Mrs Parks's account.
      Her allegations would be outlandish if it were not for her
reputation for straightforwardness and Christian devoutness. Even
diehard enemies of her husband say they have never known her
fabricate stories.
      Her description of Roger Clinton's lifestyle is also consistent
with a police drug investigation in the mid-1980s in which Roger
and his former boss, Dan Lasater, for whom he worked as a chauffeur
and in his racehorse business, were both convicted on federal
charges of distributing cocaine.
      Several women testified in secret to a federal grand jury that
they were offered free cocaine by Mr Lasater as a way of seducing
them. The youngest was only sixteen, a student at North Little Rock
High School. She told me that she also met Governor Clinton several
times at Mr Lasater's parties.
      Before his conviction in 1986, Mr Lasater, who had a variety of
business interests, was a close associate of Bill Clinton and a
major contributor to his campaign funds.
      A military subcontractor, another witness interviewed by The
Sunday Telegraph who wished to remain anonymous, alleges that he
watched Bill Clinton smoking a marijuana joint at a party given by
Mr Lasater in 1984. The subcontractor says cocaine use was rampant
at the party, although he did not see Bill Clinton partake. "I was
smoking a cigar and every time I tried to find an ashtray the damn
thing was full of cocaine," he said. "I was afraid to breathe."
      A former friend of Bill Clinton's has also told The Sunday
Telegraph that on one occasion he produced a bag of cocaine in her
living room and prepared a "line" on the table.
      This accusation is made by Sally Perdue, a former radio talk-show
hostess in Little Rock, who told The Sunday Telegraph exclusively
earlier this year that she had had an affair with Bill Clinton when
he was Governor. Referring to the cocaine incident, she said: "He
had all the equipment laid out, like a real pro."
      Ms. Perdue alleges that he came to her house about a dozen times
in late 1983, a claim that is broadly confirmed by Arkansas State
Trooper L. D. Brown.
      He smoked marijuana regularly, she claimed, pulling joints
ready-made out of a cigarette case. Typically, he would smoke two
or three in the course of a three-hour stay, she said, and he
always inhaled. There was no indication that it greatly affected
his judgment or behaviour.
     These claims suggest marijuana use may have been a feature of his
life throughout his twenties and thirties.
     A one-time reporter for student newspaper The Daily Texan - he is
now a prominent national journalist - says that he saw Mr Clinton
smoking a joint in Austin in 1972 at the headquarters of George
McGovern's Texas campaign.
     "Nobody thought anything of it at the time. We were all doing
it," he said.
     Drug use within Clinton's political circle in Arkansas was
blatant during his first Governorship from 1978 to 1980. "I can
remember going into the Governor's conference room once and it
reeked of marijuana," said Democratic State Representative Jack
McCoy, a Clinton supporter.
     As late as 1986 Clinton was still smoking marijuana, according to
Terry Reed, a former intelligence operative based in Arkansas who
recently published a book about Mr Clinton's involvement in efforts
to resupply the Nicaraguan Contras in the 1980s.
     Finally there is Sharlene Wilson. The 39-year-old Ms Wilson was
interviewed by The Sunday Telegraph at the women's prison in
Tucker, Arkansas. Her testimony must be treated with caution as she
is serving a 31-year sentence for minor drug dealing.
     Despite it being her first drug conviction, Ms Wilson received a
long sentence for selling half an ounce of marijuana and $60-worth
of methamphetamine.
     She now claims she was set up to discredit testimony that might
prove damaging to Bill Clinton and senior Arkansas officials. The
FBI is investigating the possibility that she is the victim of an
abuse of judicial power.
     Ms. Wilson says she came to know the Governor when she was a
friend of his brother in the late 1970s. For a time she was a
bartender at Le Bistro nightclub in Little Rock, where Roger used
to play with his band Dealers' Choice, and was known as the "lady
with the white snow".
     The Governor would come by frequently to listen to the band and
would often snort cocaine, she alleges. On one occasion in 1979,
she says, she sold two grammes of cocaine to Roger, who immediately
gave some to his elder brother.
     Ms. Wilson also claimed to have attended toga parties at the
Coachman's Inn outside Little Rock where she saw Governor Clinton
using cocaine. Guests at these parties would wear sheets and share
sexual partners.
     Ms. Wilson tried to break away from drugs in the late 1980s and
began helping federal and state agencies. Gary Martin, an officer
with the Drug Enforcement Agency in Little Rock, said she proved
very reliable: "I have no reason to doubt her word."
     In December 1990 she testified as a star witness to a federal
grand jury, held in secret, about her knowledge of cocaine use by
Bill Clinton and others. This testimony, for a task force
investigating drug involvement by Arkansas public officials, will
remain secret forever.
     According to Jean Duffey, who headed the drug task force, within
days the investigation was in effect closed down. Ms Wilson was
subsequently entrapped.
     "Sharlene was my best informant," says Jean Duffey, who says she
herself was hounded out of her job for being too diligent. She now
lives at a secret location in Texas. "They couldn't silence her so
they locked her up in jail and threw away the key. That's Arkansas
for you."


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These sites are filled with facts about CIA covert operations how they
work against the best interests of the citizens of the United States.

David Feustel's great archive on CIA cocaine smuggling:
    http://www.mixi.net/~feustel/

Lisa Pease's Real History Archives:
   http://www.webcom.com/~lpease/

Bob Parry's The Consortium is filled with important investigative
reporting that the mainstream media won't touch:
   http://www.delve.com/consort.html

Whitewater & Vince Foster site:
   http://www.cris.com/~dwheeler/n/whitewater/whitewater-index.html

Covert Action Quarterly home page:
   http://www.worldmedia.com/caq/

Federation of American Scientists' library of U.S. intelligence documents
   http://www.fas.org/pub/gen/fas/
*************************************************************************


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The following text is from a photocopy of a letter
that was orginally sent to Iran-Contra Special
Prosecutor Lawrence Walsh by Arkansas Attorney
General Winston Bryant on May 30, 1991.
--------------------------------------------------



		      OFFICE OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL
			   200 Tower Building
 WINSTON BRYANT             323 Center Street
ATTORNEY GENERAL       LITTLE ROCK, ARKANSAS 72201       (501) 682-2007



   May 30, 1991

   Mr. Lawrence Walsh
   Office of Independent Council
   Suite 701
   555 13th Street, NW
   Washington, D.C. 20004

   Dear Mr. Walsh:

   I am forwarding petitions to you bearing the signatures of more
   than 1,000 citizens, mostly Arkansans, who are calling for an
   investigation into the activities of the late Berriman "Barry"
   Seal in regards to an airport in Mena, Arkansas, which Seal and
   his associates allegedly used as a drug smuggling depot during
   the early to mid 1980's.

   Their specific concern, as well as my own, is to learn why no one
   was prosecuted in Arkansas despite a mountain of evidence that
   Seal was using Arkansas as his principal staging area during the
   years 1982 through 1985.

   Because your office touched on these matters during the
   Iran-Contra investigation, I, along with Congressman Bill
   Alexander of Arkansas and a number of my fellow Arkansans, ask
   that you direct your continuing investigation towards the events
   which occurred at the Mena, Arkansas airport.

   The people of Arkansas need, and deserve, a final and full
   accounting of this matter, and it is our hope that the Office of
   Independent Council can provide one. My office, as well as
   Congressman Alexander's, stands ready to assist in any manner
   that we can.

   Sincerely,

   W I N S T O N  B R Y A N T

   WINSTON BRYANT
   Attorney General

   WB:djh

   Enclosures




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U.S. District Judge George Howard has in his latest (March 8th) ruling
on the Terry Reed lawsuit stated that Terry may bring any and all
evidence to the lawsuit *except* that which pertains to the charges
Terry makes in the lawsuit (my interpretation). Text of the order follows:
=========================================================================

	IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
	   EASTERN DISTRICT OF ARKANSAS
	    WESTERN DIVISION

TERRY K. REED, ET AL.                PLAINTIFFS

      v.        Civil No. LR-C-94-634

RAYMOND YOUNG, ET AL.                DEFENDENTS

		ORDER

    Pending before the Court is defendants' [Raymond (Buddy) Young
and Tommy L. Baker] December 4th motion in limine to exclude the
following matters:...These general areas will be referred to as the
"Mena" evidence or Documents.

......Even if the Court were to find that the complaint adequately
states sufficient facts to make the allegations.....relevant to the
alleged overt actions of these defendants, the probative value is
substantially outweighed by the dangers of unfair prejudice, confusion
of issues, the potential for misleading of the jury and considerations
of undue delay and waste of time. The following description will
control: [may not be introduced into evidence or made part of the
court record]

    Any reference to the plaintiffs' [Terry and Janis Reed]
participation in programs, operations or missions sponsored by the
Federal Bureau of Investgation or the Central Intelligence Agency or
any other agency of the United States government, covert or otherwise,
as well as any organization sponsored by or aligned with teh United
States government specifically including, but not limited to, any
programs, operations or missions conducted in southwest Arkansas
regaring the training of Nicaraguan nationls, the funding and support
for any factions involved in the Nicaraguan conflict and any contact
or communications with opeatives or officials of the above-named
agencies or organizations. Any reference to President or Governor Bill
Clinton and/or Hillary Clinton and the Mena or Nella Airports. Any
references to Barry Seale [sic] and any alleged drug smuggling
operation or other references to the Mena and Nella Airports, or to a
business relationship of Barry Seale [sic] and Dan Lasater, Lasater
and Company and the Arkansas Development and Finance Authority (ADFA)
and ADFA's former Director, Bob Nash.

.....IT IS SO ORDERED THIS 8TH day of March, 1996

====================================================================
I think under the terms of this order even the text of Reed's lawsuit
cannot not be introduced as evidence.

Judge Howard is also the judge for the Whitewater case that allowed
President Clinton to testify on video tape.
--
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   Clinton Pal Dan Lasater & the Mena-Related Laundry

[The following is the text of John Crudele's article in the NY
Post,  Friday, March 15, 1996.]

Ex-pol: Ark. airport was depot for dope and guns

    A former Arkansas congressman is about to blow the
lid off what some say was a Washington-sponsored gun-
running operation that illegally provided weapons to the
Contra rebels of Nicaragua.

    Democrat Bill Alexander, defeated for his
congressional seat in a 1993 primary after the House check-
kiting scandal. today will release seven boxes of documents he
says prove that an airport in Mena, Ark., was used to
transport guns to the Contras and smuggle drugs back into the
United States in the 1980s.

    Some of these drugs, Alexander says, ended up in the
hands of John Gotti's crime family in New York.

    Others have made these same charges, and the Mena
operation has become the subject of an investigation by the
House Banking Committee.

    Sources say the federal Drug Enforcement
Administration is gathering information that will be turned over
to that committee, headed by Rep. Jim Leach (R-Iowa).

    Alexander will give his Mena documents to the
University of Arkansas at Jonesboro at noon today.

    The Post obtained some of these documents, including
a draft indictment--never presented to a grand jury--that
could have brought the Mena matter to light nearly a decade
ago.

    "Mena was a U.S. government staging area to support
the Contras in Central America.  The planes that were
contracted to ship the weapons brought drugs back to the
U.S.," Alexander told The Post.  "Absolutely no doubt about
it.  And I have evidence of it . . . The drugs came back to the
U.S. and they went to various ports of entry, including Mena.
Some of the drugs went to New York."

    Alexander said one witness said the Gambino crime
family--then headed by John Gotti--received some of the
Mena drugs.

    Alexander said then Arkansas Gov. Bill Clinton was
never implicated in the Mena operation.  "So far, it doesn't
touch Clinton.  This is pre-Clinton," he said.

    But others in Arkansas have alleged that Clinton
benefited indirectly from what was going on in Mena.

    And some sources place Clinton on the ground at
Mena airport at the time of this alleged drug-and-gun-running
operation.

    Whitewater Special Counsel Kenneth Starr has begun
looking into the actions of the Arkansas Development Finance
Authority, which was reformed in the mid-1980s by Clinton to
spur economic development in his state.

    Starr is not officially investigating Mena, although his
probers have put out feelers for anyone who might want to
volunteer information.

    Some sources in Arkansas have alleged that ADFA
eventually saw some of the Mena drug money flow into its
coffers through the purchase of bonds.

    Dan Lasater, a convicted drug dealer, friend of
Clinton and owner of a brokerage company, is often
mentioned as the one who made the bond buys.

    Alexander investigated Mena in conjunction with the
General Accounting Office when he was a member of the
House Appropriations Committee.

    The Probe centered around U.S. foreign policy in
Latin America.  He was also looking into the matter in his role
as special assistant attorney general in Arkansas.

    He said the probe ended when the National Security
Council ordered all government agencies not to cooperate
with either him or the GAO.  Alexander said he has
documentation that the Reagan administration quashed the
investigation..

    Part of the cache of documents Alexander will make
public today is a draft of a 24-count indictment that he says
was written by the U.S. attorney in Arkansas at the time.  It
was drawn up with former IRS investigator Bill Duncan, who
Alexander says is the top money-laundering expert in the
country.

    The indictment was never presented to the grand jury
for action.

    The draft alleges that four people and an Arkansas
corporation "would transport and cause to be transported
quantities of United States currency to various financial
institutions, and, there, used this currency to purchase
numerous cashiers' checks all in amounts of less than
$10,000, thus causing no currency transactions report to be
filed with the Internal Revenue Service."

    (Banks are required to report transactions of $10,000
or more to the IRS.)

    In short, the transactions looked like a money-
laundering operation.  The proposed indictment covered only
a "pattern of illegal activity involving transactions exceeding
$100,000 in a 12-month period" starting Aug. 23, 1982.

    The proposed indictment also said the late Barry Seal,
the alleged ringleader in the Mena operation, modified
"numerous aircraft" at the airport.  Seal allegedly delivered
drugs in his planes.

    Alexander's stash of documents includes copies of a
number of cashiers' checks that Seal made out to the Union
Bank of Mena.

    Most journalists have avoided the Mena tale because
they're afraid of being considered part of the lunatic fringe.
But the press at large will probably start to notice as more and
more is revealed about the antics of Arkansans in the 1980s.

    Alexander's trove could be a starter kit for the lazy
and reluctant.          ###

Date: Sat, 06 Apr 96 20:46:32 GMT
From: carlolsen@dsmnet.com (Carl E. Olsen)
To: drctalk@drcnet.org
Cc: carlolsen@dsmnet.com
Subject: (Fwd) Mena documents via FTP - Was Re: Mena Evidence on Public Display
Message-ID: <9604062047.AA11984@DSM7.DSMNET.COM>

On 2 Apr 1996, Michael Rivero wrote:

> ------------------------------------------
> The Oral Deposition of Richard J. Brenneke
> ------------------------------------------
> Joint Investigation by the
> Arkansas State Attorney General's Office
> and the U.S. Congress, June 21, 1991.
> ------------------------------------------

This deposition, along with text files of all the letters, testimony,
reports, and Congressional hearings pertaining to Mena, Arkansas that I
have posted on the internet in various usenet newsgroups, are now available
via FTP at "pencil.cs.missouri.edu" (or "128.206.100.207") in directory
"/pub/mena".

Sincerely,

Duane J. Roberts
duane@uci.edu

Undergraduate Student
Criminology, Law, and Society
School of Social Ecology
University of California, Irvine




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Date:     Sat Apr 06, 1996 11:36 pm  CST
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ARKANSAS 101
============

Barry Seal, a skilled pilot,  drops  duffel bags filled with cash
at the Triple S Ranch near Hot Springs, Arkansas.   An  estimated
$9  million per week falls out of the sky.  The state of Arkansas
gets 10 percent and also temporary use of the entire amount.

Finis Shellnut, son-in-law of  Seth  Ward,  lives at the Triple S
Ranch.  Seth  owns  the  ranch,  but  Finis  is  the  go-for  who
retrieves the weekly cash bundles.

Finis works for Dan Lasater as a bondsman.

Roger  Clinton,  brother  of  Bill  Clinton,  also  works for Dan
Lasater.

Seth Ward, owner of the Triple S Ranch, has a daughter, Suzy, who
is married to Webster Hubbell.

Webster ("Webb") Hubbell is a close friend of Bill Clinton.  Webb
Hubbell works at the Rose Law Firm.

Hillary Rodham Clinton's office  is  right next to Webb Hubbell's
office at the Rose Law Firm.

Hillary Rodham Clinton is married to William  Jefferson  Clinton,
Governor of Arkansas at the time.

The  weekly  $9 million falling out of the sky seems to have been
put  into  ADFA,  the Arkansas Development Finance Authority.  Or
else where *was* its money coming  from?  The state budget had no
funds earmarked  for  ADFA  and  the  State  Constitution  barred
deficit financing.

ADFA was, in  effect,  a  bank,  making preferred loans.  Because
ADFA is a state agency, it is not legally  required  to  publicly
divulge its records.

ADFA paid more than $100,000 in legal fees to the Rose Law Firm.

Was any of the money "loaned" out by ADFA ever re-paid?

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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 02:30:54 +0200
From: mario lap 
To: drctalk@drcnet.org
Subject: Interesting 2: IRT in de States...
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19960417003054.0060029C@XS4ALL.NL>

Sorry when this is old news

>Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 18:34:29 +0200
>From: dirk van der woude 
>Organization: GG&GD Amsterdam
>To: mario lap 
>Subject: Interesting 2: IRT in de States...
>
>Airport scandal set to crash into White House
>
>By Ambrose Evans-Pritchard in Washington
>
>UP TO now Bill Clinton has escaped scrutiny over the alleged drugs
>smuggling and gun running channelled through Mena Airport in Arkansas
>when he was the state's governor. But a federal lawsuit in
>Little Rock is beginning to unearth information that is extremely
>embarrassing for the White House.
>
>Larry Patterson, an Arkansas State Trooper, testified under oath this
>month that there were "large quantities of drugs being flown into the
>Mena Airport, large quantities of money, large quantities of guns".
>The subject was discussed repeatedly in Clinton's presence by State
>Troopers working on his security detail, he alleged. Patterson said the
>Governor "had very little comment to make; he was just listening
>to what was being said".
>
>Clinton has given conflicting answers when asked about the mysteries of
>Mena. At a campaign stop in April 1992 he lost his temper and dismissed
>the allegations as "fantasy". But last October, pale and
>uneasy at a White House press conference, he said that it was "primarily
>a matter for federal jurisdiction . . . we had nothing, zero, to do with
>it."
>
>Extensive police documents describe Mena Airport, in the remote Ouachita
>Mountains of western Arkansas, as having been the headquarters of a
>high-volume cocaine operation in the 1980s. Sources at the
>Drug Enforcement Administration say major trafficking was still going on
>there as late as December 1994.
>
>Patterson's testimony has not been released to the press, but The Sunday
>Telegraph has been able to review a copy. It was one of three
>depositions taken in a lawsuit that is likely to rock the White House
>in coming months.
>
>The plaintiffs in the suit are Terry and Janis Reed, who claim that they
>were embroiled in a US covert operation to assist the Nicaraguan Contras
>between 1983 and 1986. They say that the mission was
>based in Arkansas, with the alleged active involvement of Governor
>Clinton.
>
>Targeted because they had become a threat to Clinton's political career
>
>The Reeds are suing Clinton's chief of security, Buddy Young, a former
>Arkansas State Police captain, alleging that he tried to frame them on
>trumped up theft and fraud charges and inserted a false profile
>of them in US criminal intelligence files listing them as "armed and
>dangerous" - a pretext to shoot on sight. They believe they were
>targeted because they had become a threat to Clinton's political career.
>
>The Reeds were, in fact, acquitted of all wrongdoing in a federal court
>in 199O. The judge said that Captain Young had "displayed a reckless
>disregard for the truth".
>
>The Reed saga is so bizarre that the American press has refused to take
>it seriously. But in a book published last year, Compromised: Clinton,
>Bush, and the CIA, Terry Reed alleged that he wasrecruited by
>Oliver North to help train Contra pilots in aerial supply skills, and to
>put his machine tool expertise to use developing a clandestine network
>for the manufacture of untraceable weapons parts.
>
>Reed also claimed to have been present in an ammunition storage bunker
>outside Little Rock in 1986 when North and other Reagan Administration
>envoys allegedly met Clinton to discuss the covert
>operation - and to reprimand the Governor for members of his entourage
>skimming off money earmarked for national security purposes.
>
>Over the past year The Sunday Telegraph has been able to confirm most of
>Reed's claims in interviews with pilots, Central American sources, and
>senior officials from the US Defence Department, the
>CIA and the Reagan-Bush White House.
>
>The secret Contra scheme was devised in 1982 in order to circumvent an
>anticipated ban by Congress on hostile actions by the Reagan
>Administration against the Sandinista regime in Nicaragua. It skirted
>countless laws prohibiting covert activities on US soil.
>
>Large amounts of cocaine were flown into the US
>
>In order to maintain total "deniability" - and to avoid detection by the
>US Congress and the press - the operation was subcontracted to Barry
>Seal, a renowned drug trafficker from Louisiana. He established
>his nerve centre at Mena Airport, where he maintained a fleet of
>modified aircraft with hi-tech equipment provided by the US Air Force.
>
>He continued smuggling, of course. That was his "cover". Large amounts
>of cocaine were flown into the US while the government looked the other
>way. Indeed, the Louisiana State Police were convinced
>that he was using his status of immunity to increase the volume of
>trafficking, supplying cocaine to the organised crime machine in Little
>Rock and Hot Springs - part of what is known as the Dixie Mafia.
>
>The government still denies that Seal worked in US covert operations. It
>will admit only that he was an informant for the DEA, agreeing to help
>penetrate Colombia's Medellin Cartel after being convicted of
>drug smuggling in 1984. Seal was assassinated by Colombian gunmen in
>1986.
>
>But The Sunday Telegraph has learned that Seal was working for the
>Defence Intelligence Agency all along, answering to a top secret outfit
>in Fort Meade, Maryland, known as the US Army Operations
>Group.
>
>His recruitment was put into the Pentagon computer system through the
>highly classified RODCA Channel, a "source management system" used to
>prevent the exposure of secret assets. The last two
>numbers of his 10-digit "source code identifier" were 82, showing that
>he was recruited as an outside operative in 1982.
>
>None of this came out in the investigation by Lawrence Walsh, a special
>prosecutor who spent six years and almost $40 million looking into the
>Iran-Contra affair. That poses the question of whether
>members of Walsh's staff with a Left-liberal political bias suppressed
>information that would have exposed the involvement of Arkansas's
>Democratic governor.
>
>The Reeds said they spent three days in Washington in 1988 telling their
>story to Senate investigators. But Walsh asserts that he was never given
>a proper briefing on the Mena angle. "I'm glad you told me
>about this," he confessed, jokingly, to The Sunday Telegraph. "I keep
>learning new things all the time."
>
>There have been nine state and federal probes into Mena. None of them
>went anywhere. In several cases investigators say that they were
>thwarted by high-level obstruction. Trooper Patterson casts some
>light on this mystery. In his sworn deposition he claims to have been
>present when the Arkansas State Police commander told Governor Clinton
>that he, the commander, had been instructed to "stay out of
>Mena" by two Democrat Senators.
>
>His secret passcode was somehow cracked
>
>A second deposition suggests that measures are still being taken to
>cover up the Mena scandal. Bill Duncan, who conducted a probe for the
>Internal Revenue Service and the US Congress on drug
>trafficking and money-laundering linked to Mena, has testified that his
>computer files were broken into in January 1995 at his office within the
>Arkansas Attorney-General's office.
>
>His secret passcode was somehow cracked, allowing the intruder to tamper
>with his files. He noted that the codes of his highly sensitive
>7,000-page Mena archive - the most comprehensive set of
>documents in existence - had been broken. He has not yet been able to
>assess the level of damage.
>
>The US press has made little of the "Colombianisation" of Arkansas by
>the Dixie Mafia during the 1980s, and it has ignored the fact that two
>of the biggest financial supporters of Clinton's political career in
>Arkansas were under investigation for narcotics trafficking by the DEA
>at the time they were making big contributions to his campaign.
>
>But the Reed lawsuit is beginning to open up this whole can of worms.
>Only three depositions have been taken so far. Another 107 witnesses are
>on the list for questioning under oath between now and the
>end of the broad "discovery" process in August. The trial date is set
>for September 27.
>
>Among the witnesses are a number of State Troopers who have told the
>Reeds' lawyers that they want to "go to confession", as well as Oliver
>North and a whole cast of characters involved in the weird
>co-mingling of covert operations and drug trafficking in Clinton's
>Arkansas.
>
>The next round of depositions is due to be taken in April. The process
>is moving inexorably forwards.
>
>
"As a butterly lifts the cat"



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Subject:   (Fwd) PIML 96052004 - L&J: Jean Duffy Int: Drug Task Force in
Date:      Mon, 20 May 1996 19:13:46 -0700
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Subject: L&J: Jean Duffy Int: Drug Task Force in AR

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Subject: BILL CLINTON'S ARKANSAS: Jean Duffy's Story




	  JEAN DUFFY interviewed by Randall Terry
	  May 1, 1996

_________________________________________________________________

Jean Duffy headed a drug task force for the law enforcement
community in Arkansas. Duffy and three other law enforcement
agents have come forward in a new video called "Obstruction
of Justice: The Mena Connection." The video deals with
the murders of two boys and their connection with drug money.
All four law enforcement agents came from different agencies. All of
them met with stonewalling and opposition from highly placed
officials.
__________________________________________________________________

TERRY: As many as nine people who were potential witnesses in this
case have been murdered already. If you could say anything you wanted
for the next ten or fifteen minutes, what would you say?

DUFFY: I would like for people to wake up and understand the
massive amount of drugs that have been transported into the United
States and that the war on drugs is a myth. That our government is
very well aware, and in some cases is a participant in the drug
smuggling. I believe that is incredible for people to understand as it
would have been for me had I not been involved in it and [understood]
how it happened and why it happened. I would like for people to buy
our video, "Obstruction of Justice."

TERRY: Why?

DUFFY: It will begin to explain all of the connections of drug
smuggling and how it affects people's lives. It will help people to
understand how it is allowed to continue, and why it is allowed to
continue. There will be a sequel to "Obstruction of Justice" that will
go more in depth into the actual drug-smuggling operation. But our
video explains very poignantly how it affected the life of an American
family. Linda and Larry Ives, the parents of Kevin Ives, who was
killed when he was 17-years-old because he stumbled upon a drug drop.
[There was also the death of his friend, Don Henry]. As if their
murders were not bad enough, they were murdered by law enforcement
officers who were part of the drug-smuggling operation.


TERRY: Let's just stop right here.

DUFFY: Alright,

TERRY: I watched this video yesterday and when I was done, I took my
entire staff up after yesterday's show and told them "you all have to
watch this." They all went home late for dinner. I don't usually react
to things this bad[ly]. The clear implication of the video is that Dan
Harmon and other law enforcement agents murdered these boys.

DUFFY: Well, that's absolutely correct.

TERRY: You're not a crackpot - you're involved in law enforcement.
There are other law enforcement [officers] in the film, all risking
life and limb and future careers to say things against some very
powerful people. You really believe that these boys were murdered by
law enforcement agents?

DUFFY: I don't think there's any doubt about it. And I believe the law
enforcement agents were connected to some very high political people
because they have never been brought to justice and I don't think they
ever will be. I think they are protected to avoid exposing the
connection.


TERRY: To who? To higher-ups?

DUFFY: Yes, absolutely to higher-ups.

TERRY: How high?

DUFFY: Well, I know that there were CIA people involved in this
drug-smuggling operation, that's pretty much un-disputed. I can't
really say whether the CIA people were acting officially or whether
they were rogue operators, acting outside their official capacity and
taking advantage of an opportunity to make private profits off of this
drug-smuggling operation. Obviously they were connected to very
high-up people. The U.S attorney who first shut down a federal
investigation was appointed by a Republican president - he was
appointed by President Bush and I don't believe he had any direct
connection with any of this, but he certainly took orders from someone
to close down that investigation.

TERRY: This all sounds so fantastic. How unbelievable. I mean how the
average America just cannot grasp that state officials in Arkansas, or
federal officials were somehow even remotely connected with
drug-smuggling, and then to say that some of the lower officials
actually murdered these boys - I've got to stop myself. I'm a
Christian and I'm a Calvinist and I believe in the wickedness of man's
 heart, so it should not surprise me that wicked men can do wicked
things. Do you believe that Dan Harmon was involved with these
murders?

DUFFY: I don't think that there is any doubt that he was.

TERRY: Explain to the listeners who Dan Harmon was at the time and who
he is now.

DUFFY: At the time he was a person who was in and out of politics in
Saline County. He had been a judge. He had been a prosecutor and, at
the time the boys were murdered, he was in private practice. After
they were murdered, he approached the parents of the two boys and
[offered] his services to find out who had murdered the two boys. And
he was subsequently appointed to be special prosecutor to head a
county grand jury. Now for years the parents thought that Dan Harmon
was trying to solve their murders, but later found out that he had
very wisely put himself into a position of not only orchestrating the
coverup, but being in the position of controlling the information that
came in and the information that went out.

TERRY: Well, it's worse than that. People who came forward and said
that they had information on these murders ended up getting murdered,
themselves.


DUFFY: There have been several murders of potential witnesses.
Anyone who could have solved this murder many years ago has been
systematically eliminated.

TERRY: What did these boys see that was so critical that they were
murdered that night - that the third boy who was with them, and then
escaped - who ran away, was tracked down and murdered a year later -
what was so critical to this whole process that all these people had
to be killed? It's just - it sounds crazy!

DUFFY: It really does. I've been called crazy before - that's for
sure.

TERRY: Before you answer the question, I just want to say in your
defense ... these people are just doing their duty as law enforcement
agents and they stumbled into this black, bloodstained hole involving
the murder of these two boys. So go ahead Jean, if you could answer my
question.

DUFFY: I will - what you said brought up a point I would like to
make. When I was investigating this, I was crucified in the media by
public officials who were involved in this, and I was labeled a
whacko, a fruitcake, a nut case. In the U.S. attorney's office there
were people who were supposed to be helping in this investigation who
turned their backs on any of the information that my drug task force
took in, because we had been so discredited. When this video came out,
one of the people [who had been] in the U.S. Attorney's office back
then saw the video, took it to work nd asked every person in the U.S.
Attorney's office to sit down and watch [it]. He said, "this will
change your mind about what we thought about Jean Duffy back in 1990."


TERRY: I am going to take a break and when we come back you can ask
Jean Duffy why it was necessary that these two boys be murdered, and
subsequently nine other witnesses were murdered.

[Break for commercials]

TERRY: Before we took the break, Jean, I asked what these boys saw
that caused not only them, but several other potential witnesses to
their murder to be murdered.

DUFFY: Well, it's really quite simple.  They stumbled upon a drug drop
from an airplane that was part of the major drug-smuggling operation out
on Mena, Arkansas.

TERRY: But, drug drops happen every day  and there aren't 11 people
murdered as a result.

DUFFY: This drug-smuggling operation had been set up in Mena by
Barry Seal and was part of a CIA covert operation. To expose the
murders would have exposed some very high[ly placed] political
people - in fact I believe if it's ever solved completely it's
going to expose a lot of Democrats and Republicans alike. And it's my
personal opinion that's why it is not going to be investigated
thoroughly by either party. Both parties stand to lose from exposure
of this drug-smuggling operation.

TERRY: Have you heard of Terry Reed's book, "Compromised?"

DUFFY: Yes, I have. I've read it.

TERRY: Do you think it's credible?

DUFFY: Ah - I think without really knowing...

TERRY: Terry was a co-pilot with Barry Seal, and Barry Seal was the
one who was gunned down - he was murdered a little more than 10 years
ago. The book "Compromised" basically says the same thing you guys are
saying, only that Terry Reed was an insider.

DUFFY: Yes, absolutely. I try not to report anything that I don't
really know first hand. But reading his book certainly helped me to
understand how the Mena operation was set up. And nothing in his book
is inconsistent with what I know first-hand from what my task force
developed.

TERRY: Tell us some of the things. You had several informants
working for you. Tell us some of the things your informants
uncovered.

DUFFY: They immediately linked drug traffic at the local level to
local political people - local public officials. And because of that
we routed-out information to a federal U.S. Assistant Attorney, who
was a good guy.

TERRY: You say you found local political figures involved. And your
informants were credible? They had concrete evidence?

DUFFY: Oh yeah. When one informant tells you something
independently of one or two or three other informants, and they're all
giving exactly the same information...

TERRY: Do they know that the other informants exist?

DUFFY: No.

TERRY: These are all separate?

DUFFY: They would be independent. It would be foolish to just
listen to one informant and try to build a case based on what that one
informant said. But the informants we used had been tested and proven.
Also we had informants and witnesses who passed polygraph tests. So
there are several different ways to determine the credibility of an
informant or a witness and one is corroborating testimony.

TERRY: So you gave this testimony to federal law enforcement agents
and thought that you were going to get justice at that point.And you
were told by the federal prosecutor that they were going to indict
some of these local political figures?

DUFFY: Oh, I was absolutely assured that there would be indictments
and prosecutions of key public officials and in fact the same public
officials who were conducting the media smear campaign against me at
the time. This had been going on for several months, but the U.S.
Attorney that was in charge of the federal grand jury investigation
said "just hang on, because any day now..." I heard this week after
week, and the weeks turned into months. Then he said I'm ready to have
the grand jury indict and I'm ready to prosecute these same people,
and as soon as that happens then everyone will understand the smear
campaign and why they tried to discredit me professionally.

TERRY: We have about a minute left. You can say anything you want.
This is Jean Duffy who headed up a drug task force. How many
investigators did you have working for you?

DUFFY: I had seven undercover officers.

TERRY: And five of them resigned in protest over the way you were
treated.

DUFFY: They did.

TERRY: That's unbelievable. You have the last minute to tell the
listeners anything you want.

DUFFY: [Encourages listeners to order the video "Obstruction of
Justice" which will be used to fund a civil action].

TERRY: I want to commend you again for putting your life on the
line by stepping forward like this. Obviously some very powerful
people have already murdered nearly a dozen people in connection
with the drug smuggling there, starting with the two young boys.
Certainly other law enforcement officials have been threatened.
Were you threatened at all?

DUFFY: There was a $50,000 price on my head back in 1990, when I
left the jurisdiction, and I was actually in hiding for nine
months.

TERRY: They put a $50,000 hit fee on you?

DUFFY: That was the information my parents were given, and they
were certainly very fearful. But once I left the jurisdiction and
stopped doing the investigation they left me alone. They stopped the
smear campaign. I didn't feel like anyone was looking for me. What
they wanted me to do was just shut up and go away. When I did that
they didn't have a problem. When I got involved again in 1994, at the
request of the FBI, the FBI agent I was working with got the
information that Harmon was looking to have my body laid out on the
railroad track and run over. The agent was pretty fearful that that
was a direct threat, but I was really not very intimidated by that.


TERRY: Ben Harmon, folks, is the fellow who eye-witnesses said was
seen with the boys on the tracks the night they were murdered. And he
is a prosecutor there.

DUFFY: He is the prosecuting attorney there and has been since
1991.

TERRY: If the allegations that our friend Jean Duffy has been
telling us are true, then he is a monster. Jean, thank you very
much for taking the time,and we applaud your courage...We hope that
justice is done for these boys, and that all of the political power
players who are involved in this coverup are exposed.

DUFFY: Thank you very much for your concern.


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	   THE BARRY SEAL - BILL CLINTON CONNECTION II
			Editorial

    An editorial in this space recently explored  the  connection
between  the  late  drug  smuggler  Barry  Seal  and  the current
President Bill Clinton.  The editorial pointed out that they  had
shared  the same legal counsel, Richard Ben-Veniste, and the same
press lackey, pseudojournalist John Camp.

    But the connection goes beyond that. Consider the  following:
Barry Seal was prosecuted and convicted in Florida for possession
with intent to distribute drugs. His sentence was  reduced  after
he turned informant. Barry Seal was also prosecuted and convicted
on  drug  charges  in  Louisiana.  His   sentence   was   reduced
considering his work for the federal government.

    But Barry Seal was never indicted  in  Arkansas  despite  the
fact  that  he  had  been  flying  thousands of pounds of cocaine
through Mena, Arkansas.  The lack of indictment was certainly not
due to lack of evidence. Mena criminal investigator Russell Welch
had followed Seal for years and gathered a voluminous file on his
drug smuggling activities.

    But the Governor was well  aware  of  what  Seal  was  doing.
"That's  Lasater's deal," he told State Trooper L.D. Brown. Terry
Reed has explained what Lasater's deal was: He was using his bond
business  to  launder  drug  money  for  Barry Seal. The Arkansas
Democrat Machine saw to it that  state  investigations  into  the
matter  went  nowhere. A memo obtained by the Wall Street Journal
explains the attorney general's "wish to sever any  ties  to  the
Mena  matter  -  because  of the implication that the AG might be
investigating  the  governor's  connection."  The  name  of   the
governor  was  Bill Clinton, and the name of the attorney general
was Winston Bryant, who last week came in first in  the  Arkansas
Democratic  Primaries  for  U.S.  Senator.  With Bill Clinton now
President, the Arkansas Democrat Machine is still in  control  in
Arkansas.   Winston  Bryant is currently in charge of obstructing
the Mena lawsuit by Terry Reed to make sure that the Barry Seal -
Bill Clinton connection never sees the light of day.





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Found this at:

http://wybbs.wynalda.com/~croberts/index.html

Go to "Political Journal" and then to "Mena Timeline".

Ed
*******************************************************
menatime.txt v1.0

Timeline of events, characters, involved in the Clinton's history
including:

- Mena airstrip and cocaine trafficking
- Clinton's governorship and girlfriend scandals
- Arkansas Development and Finance Authority (ADFA) scandal
- Whitewater land development scandal
- Rostenkowski (Chicago) and Citibank and Florida bank money
laundering

Contents

- Timeline
- People
- Places
- Sources

None of this information is claimed to be factual. It is taken from
various news articles.
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----

Timeline

1985

   * Welch poisoned by anthrax.

1988

   * ADFA Marketing Director position created for Nichols by then Gov.
     Clinton.

1993

   * April 19. Webster Hubbel was highest ranking official during the
     Branch Davidian standoff today at Waco, TX.
   * Jul 20. Vince Foster found dead in Ft. Marcy Park, Wash DC. Many
     inconsistencies are found at the 'suicide' site. FBI prevents
     normal investigation procedures. Suspicious characters seen at
     the scene shortly before estimated time of death.

1995

   * August. Hubbel sent to jail for Whitewater crimes.
   * Fall. Clinton claims he will be bankrupt because of the Paula
   Jones
     lawsuit and asks supportors for donations to his legal expenses
     fund. Then later he collects all money needed from an insurance
     policy.

1996

   * Clinton collects $900,000 in 'bimbo eruption' insurance to cover
   the
     lawsuit of Paula Jones.
   * April. Ron Brown killed in a plane crash over Bosnia. Dan
     Rostenkowski, Democratic congressman, sentenced to 17 months of
     jail time and $100,000 fine on 17 indictments. Charges include
     using public money for personal gifts and travel, cashing in
     stamps used for official business in exchange for cash.

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----

People

   * Brown, Ron. Commerce Secretary.
   * Clinton, Hillary: First Lady of the US.
	o Sued for improper futures trading in the cattle market.
	(Turned
	  $1k into $100k in about a week.)
	o Gary Lane finds damning documents pertaining to ADFA. The
	next
	  day, Fiske subpoenas the documents and seals them.
	o  One day, Chicago Board of Trade finds all of Hillary's
	trades,
	  and the next day they're sealed by Fiske.
   * Davis, LJ. Reporter doing a story on Whitewater. After an doing
   an
     interview about it, upon returning to his hotel, he was knocked
     unconscious from behind and critical pages of his notebook were
     taken.
   * Espey, Mike. Sec's of Agriculture accused of taking trips and
   perks
     (plane trips, basketball tickets) inappropriately, especially
     from Tyson Foods.
   * Fiske, Robert. Member of Congress leading the investigation of
     Whitewater. Appointed by Jane Reno.
   * Flowers, Gennifer. One of Clinton's girlfriends.
   * Foley. Congressman from Washington, receives a lot of campaign
   money
     from Tyson Foods. Asked federal court to make taxpayers to repay
     his legal fees for his fighting term limits.
   * Foster, Vince. Supposedly Hillary's boyfriend. Killed in July 20,
     1993; part of Clinton's cabinet.
   * Hubbel, Webster. Created ADFA.
   * Jones, Paula. Filed suit vs Clinton about sexual harrassment
   which
     occurred in the early 90's.
   * Knepp, Lou, President of ADFA.
   * Lasater, Dan. Clinton's best friend, did bond underwriting for
   ADFA.
     Went to jail with Roger Clinton for GIVING away large amounts of
     cocaine. Owned a bonding house.
   * Lane, Gary. From Pat Robertson's CBN, he was investigating Mena,
     received death threats, then he had to leave town.
   * Nichols, Larry. Former marketing director of ADFA.
   * Packwood, Bob. (R-OR) Member of Congress accused of fraud for
   ???.
     Accused of touched the behind of a waitress. Forced to resign his
     Senate seat.
   * Parks, Jerry. Was a Clinton political foe, but then hired as
   security
     directory for the Clinton-Gore campaign. He had a file about bad
     stuff pertaining to Clinton, but was assassinated before he could
     hand the file to anyone.
   * Reno, Janet. Clinton appointed cabinet member, head of Dept of
     Justice.
   * Rostenkowski, Dan. Owns part of Guarenty Bank, Chicago. US
   Congress.
     Involved in the House bank scandal.
   * Seal, Barry. Hauled arms to the Contras in the early 80's to/from
     Mena.
   * Stephens, Jackson. Brought BCCI to America. Owned investment
   firm.
     Underwriter of some bonds for ADFA.
   * Stevens, Jay. Prosecutor ends up investigating Stephens. This
   former
     US attorney investigates Rostenkowski.
   * Tyson, Don. Recipient of loans from ADFA.
   * Ward, Seth. Father in law of Webster Hubbel. Received first loan
   from
     ADFA for $2.85 million and there are no records of him paying it
     back.
   * Welch, investigator of Mena airstrip scandal. Poisoned and killed
   by
     anthrax, a military biological agent.

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----

Places, organizations

   * BCCI banks. Allegedly Lasater was running drug money through 2
   banks
     in this network of banks.
   * Guarenty bank, Chicago. Partially owned by Dan Rostenkowski, US
     Congress.
   * Int'l Paper. Recipient of loans from ADFA.
   * Madison Guarenty. The failed S&L which the RTC started
   investigating.
     Made loans to Clintons to buy land in Whitewater development
     area.
   * Resolution Trust Co. Oversees failed Savings and Loans to
   liquidate
     them. Officially closed Jan, 1996.
   * Rose Law Firm. Where Hillary worked as a lawyer.
   * Stephen's investment firm. Owned by Jackson Stephens.
   * Tyson Industries. Owned by Don Tyson. This corporation also
   recipient
     of loans from ADFA.
   * Whitewater Development Corp.

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Sources

1. nicholsl.txt
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		       CAST OF CHARACTERS

Hillary Rodham Clinton -- wife of Bill Clinton, her office at the
Rose Law Firm is right next to "WEBB" HUBBELL's office.

Roger Clinton -- brother  of  Bill  Clinton.  Roger works for DAN
LASATER.

Webster ("Webb") Hubbell -- a close friend of then-Governor  Bill
Clinton.  "Webb" Hubbell works at the Rose Law Firm.

Dan  Lasater  --  Arkansas  "Bond Daddy" and close friend of Bill
Clinton.  His firm, Lasater  &  Co.,  was handling more than $300
million per year in preferred state bond activity.

Barry Seal -- a skilled pilot, from his  plane  he  drops  duffel
bags  filled  with cash onto the Triple S Ranch near Hot Springs,
Arkansas.

Finis Shellnut -- son-in-law  of  SETH  WARD.  Finis lives at the
Triple S Ranch and is the go-for who  retrieves  the  bundles  of
cash being dropped by BARRY SEAL.  Finis works for DAN LASATER as
a "bondsman".

Seth Ward -- owner of the Triple S Ranch.  His daughter, Suzy, is
married to WEBSTER ("WEBB") HUBBELL.

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John Cummings is a former prize-winning investigative reporter at
New York Newsday.  He has co-authored the Heist (1987), Goombata:
The Improbable Rise of John Gotti and His Gang (1990)  and  Death
Do  Us Part (1993).  His latest book, Compromised:  Clinton, Bush
and  the  CIA  (Clandestine  Publishing,  ISBN:   1-883955-02-5),
co-authored with Terry  Reed,  has  been  a bestseller.  For over
thirty years, since the Bay of Pigs,  Cummings  has  studied  the
confluence   of  intelligence  gathering,  money  laundering  and
drug-trafficking.

I spoke with Mr. Cummings on March 25, 1996.

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CONSPIRACY NATION:  I heard you and Terry Reed, I think it was on
Radio Free America with Tom Valentine.  And as I recall, you were
investigating some kind of corruption in Florida that led you to,
when you first became aware of Terry Reed and his situation...

JOHN CUMMINGS:  It began around the time of the Bay of Pigs.  And
I  came to know a lot of the guys who were involved in that.  And
it worked out that I began  to  look into this question of covert
operations.  And the more I looked into it (prior  to  that,  I'd
been  working  on  organized  crime),  the more I found organized
crime and drug trafficking.   They  always  seemed to go hand-in-
hand.  And that led to my looking, some  years  later,  at  Barry
Seal.  And from Barry Seal, I was led to Arkansas by some friends
in  the  Louisiana  State Police who believed that Seal was doing
more than what most people  *thought*  he was really doing.  This
one particular cop came to believe that Seal  had  some  kind  of
government  protection  and  that he was probably engaged in some
kind of covert activity.  And he  said that he left Louisiana and
he went up to Arkansas.  And then I started  to  look  up  there.
And  the  more  I looked up there, the more suspicious I got, the
more it smelled of an  intelligence operation.  (Which I had seen
a lot of in Florida.)  And *that* led me,  eventually,  to  Terry
Reed.

CONSPIRACY NATION: How did you first get in contact with Reed?

JOHN  CUMMINGS:   I heard about Terry Reed from a friend who is a
private investigator in  Washington.   (He's  a  retired CID man.
[IRS Criminal Investigation  Division])  And  he  told  me  about
Terry's  case.   Terry  at the time was under indictment for mail
fraud.  And so I called his  lawyer (and in the interim, I'd done
a big piece on Barry Seal for Penthouse, and she  had  read  it.)
And  she sent me some of the pleadings from the case.  And here I
see Terry was at Mena.  So I began to pursue Terry.

CONSPIRACY NATION: What exactly was Mena about?

JOHN  CUMMINGS:   Terry  came  in  contact  with  a  man  who was
introduced to him as "John Cathey."   And  John  Cathey  was,  in
reality, Oliver North.  And he came into contact as the result of
the Toshiba investigation.  And you know what that was, right?

CONSPIRACY NATION:  That was something  with  submarines,  wasn't
it?

JOHN CUMMINGS:  The Toshiba Machine Tools  was  secretly  selling
propeller  technology  to the Soviet Union.  This equipment would
allow the Soviets to  make  propellers  that would elude American
detection.  There was a *big* scandal about it.   At  one  point,
Congress  wanted  to  totally  stop  trading with Toshiba and not
allow them in the country.   There  was a tremendous tumult about
this.
    Well North, or "Cathey," asked Terry to  make...   Terry,  at
the time, was working for Toshiba.  And they wanted him to try to
find out what was going through the Toshiba warehouse.
    Anyway,  that's  how  he  came  to  meet North.  (Although he
didn't know his name was Oliver  North.  He only knew that he had
been in Vietnam  like  Terry  had  been.)   And  they  were  very
*simpatico*.
    So  at  some  point,  Terry  decides  to go into business for
himself and he's gonna  move  to  Arkansas.  And North tells him,
"Well.  If you're moving to Arkansas, there's a guy  there  who's
running  some stuff for us that you ought to meet."  And he says,
"You can probably make some money out of this."
    So anyway, North gives him  the  name  of Barry Seal and says
that Seal will contact him.  And Terry moves to Little Rock,  and
not  too long thereafter, Seal comes to see Terry at his place of
business.  And he has with  him,  when  he  comes that day, a guy
name of Dan Lasater.  And working for Lasater,  as  a  chauffeur,
was [Bill] Clinton's brother, Roger.
    Well  he meets Seal, and they hit it off.  And Seal tells him
that he needs  someone  who  can  train  *Contra*  pilots to drop
supplies into areas of Nicaragua at night; you know,  teach  them
how to do air drops.

CONSPIRACY NATION:  And they trained those pilots so that the CIA
would have plausible deniability.

JOHN  CUMMINGS:   Right.   The  CIA   would  appear  to  have  no
"hands-on"  knowledge.   This  [would  appear  to  be]  simply  a
free-lance operation.
    At the same time,  Terry  (whose  background  is  in  machine
tooling)...   Seal needed help with producing untraceable weapons
that they could give the *Contras*.
    Anyway, that's how it  came  about.   That's how he met Barry
Seal.

CONSPIRACY NATION:  And then, what wound up  happening  was  that
the  guns  were being flown down there, but either (I'm not clear
on this) it was,  say,  "individual entrepreneurship" that caused
some pilots to decide to  fly  back  with  drugs?   Or  were  the
drugs...

JOHN  CUMMINGS:  Well Terry did not know about the drugs.  All he
would do was go  to  Mena,  teach  these guys, in various places,
[about flying].  And they were kept at a place out in the  woods.
This area is very remote.  And they built a makeshift base out in
the  woods  near Mena, Arkansas.  And all Terry would do was take
'em up and try to  teach  'em.   And  although these guys had had
pilot training, they  were  very  rough.   They  could  fly,  but
barely.
    So  Terry's  job  was  trying  to teach them how to drop this
stuff at  night,  in  the  jungle,  to  supply  their own troops.
Because they didn't want (what later happened), they did not want
a plane shot down with  an  American  crew  on  board.   (And  of
course, that *did* happen.)
    And one of the people working with Terry, working  with  Seal
at  that time, was William Cooper -- who was a pilot of the C-123
that *was* shot down.

CONSPIRACY NATION:  And Cooper died in that crash, right?

JOHN CUMMINGS:  He died.  Only [Eugene] Hasenfus survived.

CONSPIRACY NATION:  But in general,  these planes were not flying
back to the U.S. empty.

JOHN CUMMINGS:  Well, separate and  apart  from  this.   See,  my
suspicion was, as they were flying weapons in, since the cargo...
You  know,  the  planes were empty.  They weren't gonna come back
empty.  I mean, Seal's (how shall  I say?)  "cover" was that of a
drug trafficker.  In other words, he had gotten  into  that  game
early.   And  for  all  the world, all the time they were chasing
Seal around Mena, they  were  looking  for  drugs.  But what they
were *really* doing was running a supply operation.
    Now if Seal was  running  stuff  *back*, it was not something
Terry was involved in.  Terry didn't find  out  about  the  drugs
until much later, when he was in Mexico.

CONSPIRACY  NATION:   And  that  was what caused him to break off
from the operation.

JOHN CUMMINGS:  Yeah.  He broke  off  from that.  And right after
he did, he started having legal problems.

CONSPIRACY NATION:  So he found out, while he was in Mexico, that
drugs were involved.  And he didn't want to have anything  to  do
with the drugs.

JOHN  CUMMINGS:   He  was  down there supposedly to run a machine
tool company.  And he  had  acquired  a big warehouse for putting
machine tools.  He'd been told that what they were gonna do  with
this  proprietary  company  was run guns from the U.S. to Central
America.  But when he went  to  his  warehouse one day, he opened
one of these big, huge containers, and it was  full  of  cocaine.
And  at  which time he then confronted his then boss, a man named
Felix Rodriguez (although *he* was going under a pseudonym too.)

CONSPIRACY NATION:  Yeah.  "Max Gomez."

JOHN CUMMINGS:  Max Gomez.  Yeah.
    And he [Terry  Reed]  bargained  his  way  out  of there.  He
thought he was home free.  He says, "I just want out.  I'm  gonna
go home.  I'm not gonna say anything to anybody.  I just want out
of this."
    And  then  suddenly,  it turns out that a plane that had been
stolen from [Reed] years  earlier  turns  up  in  a hangar he had
rented in Little Rock.

CONSPIRACY NATION:  Wasn't Buddy Young, then working as Clinton's
chief of security, involved?

JOHN CUMMINGS:  Buddy Young is one of the people he's sueing.

CONSPIRACY  NATION:   And  what  happened   was,   Reed   thought
everything  was  okay,  and he heads north.  And Buddy Young puts
out a "profile" on him, through the computers.

JOHN CUMMINGS:  He put out  a  phony profile on him!  Saying that
he was a known drug trafficker and that he had  been  dealing  in
drugs  in  Central  America.   He  put  that  into the government
computers.

CONSPIRACY NATION:  So then, Reed figured they must be out to get
him.  He figured that  they'll  probably,  since they've got this
false profile on him, that he's this "dangerous drug trafficker",
he'll be lucky if he gets captured alive.

JOHN CUMMINGS:  Yes, well that was the idea.  They had listed, on
this alert, "Armed and dangerous" -- which is a tip-off to  every
cop:   shoot first and ask questions later.  But, you see, he had
enough knowledge that he could  have implicated both Bill Clinton
*and* George Bush in this.

CONSPIRACY NATION:  So  Reed  went  "underground"  for  what,  18
months or so?

JOHN CUMMINGS:  Well, a little less than a year.  He and his wife
took off with their children and drove across the country, trying
to  stay out of sight, figuring that he had been marked for a hit
like [Barry] Seal had been!   He  was convinced they would do the
same thing to him that they did to Seal.

CONSPIRACY NATION:  Barry Seal had taken that secret videotape of
[the Sandinistas] loading that plane  with  narcotics.   And  who
leaked that tape?  Was it Reagan or North?

JOHN CUMMINGS:  It was photos, not videotape.

CONSPIRACY NATION:  But wasn't it North, or Reagan, that made the
photos public?

JOHN CUMMINGS:  Reagan put 'em on the air.

CONSPIRACY  NATION:   Yeah.   Because  Reagan was under political
pressure.

JOHN CUMMINGS:  He wanted  to  get  aid  to the *Contras* through
Congress.   And  they  wanted  to  show,   "Look.    These   guys
[Sandinistas]  are  all  drug  dealers."  And by doing that, they
made it known who was informing on them.

CONSPIRACY NATION:  And then Seal  was  a marked man.  And by the
government putting him in a position where he was  easily  found,
it was the same as setting him up.

JOHN CUMMINGS:  Yeah, that's a well-documented story.

CONSPIRACY  NATION:   So  after  about  a  year underground, Reed
decides that he's gonna turn himself in.

JOHN CUMMINGS:  No, he learns that he's been indicted.  So having
been indicted, he decided that  he'd better surrender before they
tried to come  and  find  him.   And  he  did.   He  arranged  to
surrender.   And  he  went with an attorney and surrendered.  And
his wife was also indicted.  And she had done absolutely nothing.

CONSPIRACY NATION:   Yeah.   She  says  in  the  video ["The Mena
Connection"] that the judge at one  point  said,  "Mrs.  Reed,  I
don't even understand why you're here in court."

JOHN  CUMMINGS:   What  he  said  was,  "Why is *she* here?"  And
Terry's attorney said, "I  guess  because  she's married to him."
The judge asked, several times, "Why is *she* here?"

CONSPIRACY NATION:  So then Reed was exonerated,  and  found  not
guilty.

JOHN  CUMMINGS:  He was acquitted, yeah.  He was acquitted by the
judge.  It was an  order  of  acquittal,  from a judge (which you
hardly ever see.)  There was no jury trial.

CONSPIRACY NATION:  So he was so obviously innocent that...

JOHN CUMMINGS:  He was acquitted on the law.  Not on  the  facts.
Because  the jury decides the facts.  But the judge said that the
government had no case!   (This  was after two-and-a-half years.)
And when I spoke to the judge  about  it,  he  told  me  that  he
thought the case "had a high odor to it."

CONSPIRACY  NATION:   And  after  he  was  acquitted, he had gone
through a lot of hardship because of  all this and had to spend a
lot of money, I assume, with legal fees and everything.
    And at what point did you meet up with him?

JOHN CUMMINGS:  I met up  with  him  while  he  was  still  under
indictment.  I met him for the first time, personally, the Summer
of 1990.  The judge's acquittal came in the following November.

CONSPIRACY  NATION:   One  of the reasons he decided to work with
you on a book was because he  figured if he got his story out, he
and his family would be safer.

JOHN CUMMINGS:  *I* told him that.   If  he got his story out, it
wouldn't be a suit of armor, but it would raise more suspicion if
something happened to him.  Otherwise, if they were to shoot  him
dead, I mean, who knew about this guy?

CONSPIRACY  NATION:  So after he was acquitted, he wanted redress
of his grievances and he also wanted to get the truth out.

JOHN CUMMINGS:  He was very angry because of what they  had  done
to  his  wife.   He  was very angry that they had put her through
this.  And they had three  small children.  And it's very obvious
that she had done absolutely nothing.  In fact, I read the  grand
jury minutes:  there was virtually no case going on there at all.
But  you  know, there's a saying:  "A prosecutor can indict a ham
sandwich."
    And that's what really pissed  him  off.   So the two of them
decided...  They were still wary of  me,  at  that  point.   They
decided  that  they  were  going  to  go back into court and seek
justice.  (Not really realizing that that is a relative term, and
seeking justice sometimes can be a very burdensome thing.)
    But anyway, they decided  to  do  this.   And  then I went to
visit him in early 1991.  And that was the  first  time,  in  our
conversations,   that  he  brought  in  Bill  Clinton,  and  ADFA
[Arkansas Development  Finance  Authority], and money-laundering,
and all the rest of it.

CONSPIRACY NATION:  The book *Compromised* was kind of a landmark
book, or a ground- breaking book, in that it  outlined  what  was
going  on;  it  provided a road map for what had been going on in
Arkansas.

JOHN CUMMINGS:  What it was, it was a kind of  diary  of  a  foot
soldier in that war [i.e.  *Contras*].  This is something that he
really  believed  in.   He  believed in the *Contras* and he felt
that they  should  be  helped.   (You  know,  he  and  I had many
arguments about that.)  And he said that he, at the time, thought
that Oliver North was (although he didn't know, at the  time,  he
was  Oliver North), he thought he was a great guy.  And he was as
pissed off as Terry was about what had happened in Vietnam.

CONSPIRACY  NATION:   And  so   Reed  brought  suit  against  the
government?

JOHN CUMMINGS:  No, it wasn't a suit against the government.   It
was  a suit against the two men who testified against him.  There
was a third man, who was an Arkansas state trooper, who works for
the DEA.

CONSPIRACY NATION:  He brought  suit  against these 3 people.  Do
you know the names of the people?

JOHN CUMMINGS:  Buddy Young.  Tommy Baker.  And Sanders  --  he's
an Arkansas cop who was working with the DEA.
    Sanders was brought in because of the contacts...  I tell you
what:   to  really understand the court case you have to read the
chapter, "Department of Injustice."   Because  these guys lied so
many times, in their testimony.  They kept getting caught:   they
would  say  one  thing,  and  then the facts would show something
else.
    See, the reason he  brought  suit  against those guys, it was
very clear that they were lying in  their  testimony.   And  they
didn't  even  really  make any attempt to hide the fact they were
lying.

CONSPIRACY NATION:  And by  bringing  suit, this allows what they
call  the  discovery  process,  right?    That   he   (at   least
theoretically)  should  have  access  to  documents  that  aren't
normally available?

JOHN  CUMMINGS:   He  got documents from the FBI and from the DEA
Intelligence Headquarters in El Paso  which showed that Young had
planted the profile about him being a drug trafficker,  and  that
they  claimed when they found the airplane that they took the VIN
number through NCIC  [National  Crime  Information Center] -- but
not when they said they did!

CONSPIRACY NATION:  And so this lawsuit was proceeding well.  And
in the video, "The Mena Connection," it ends with a request  that
people try to help with the legal expenses.

JOHN CUMMINGS:  If they can.  Yes.

CONSPIRACY NATION:  Did he get much help with the legal expenses,
from people?

JOHN  CUMMINGS:   Yeah,  there was help that came in.  Basically,
Terry is taking what income,  his  share of what income there has
been from the book, to plough into this case.

CONSPIRACY NATION:  So he's in a situation that happens to a  lot
of  people:   the  government  has  got  unlimited  funds, but an
individual citizen, if they're  gonna pursue something like this,
they've got to spend their own money.

JOHN CUMMINGS:  That's right.  There's  no  way  you  can  really
out-spend the government.

CONSPIRACY  NATION:   And  so,  this case was proceeding well, up
until recently, right?

JOHN CUMMINGS:  There was a motion, from the other side, to limit
the amount of evidence that Terry  could bring in.  And that copy
of the court order I sent you [See CN 7.56] just about wipes away
any reference to Mena or...  In other words, he can try his civil
rights case, but you can't go into *why* they would  have  wanted
to frame him.

CONSPIRACY NATION:  So the judge is like a gatekeeper, right?  He
decides what gets allowed in.

JOHN CUMMINGS:  The judge is, of course, a  product  of  Arkansas
politics.

CONSPIRACY NATION:  What's the judge's name?

JOHN CUMMINGS:  George Howard.
    He's  the  one  that's  trying  the  case now against Jim Guy
Tucker.

CONSPIRACY NATION:  So that would  indicate that the case against
Tucker is also likely to be biased.

JOHN CUMMINGS:  I'm not familiar with that *case*.  There's a lot
of people running interference for Bill Clinton.
    And  I  think  the thing that you might want to keep in mind:
every attempt to pull back the rock on Mena has been thwarted.

CONSPIRACY NATION:  I don't  know  if  you know this fellow named
Sherman Skolnick, out of Chicago...

JOHN CUMMINGS:  I know who he is.  I don't know much about him.

CONSPIRACY NATION:  Well he's been looking into this whole thing,
with Whitewater and Mena, and  his  end of this is, he represents
somebody named Joseph  Andreuccetti  which,  it's  a  complicated
case,  but  there  was supposed to have been a transfer of an RTC
[Resolution Trust Corporation]  contingency  fund -- an *illegal*
transfer -- that this money went down to Arkansas to cover up  an
embezzlement of a savings and loan down there.
    But just generally, I'm familiar that the state just reeks of
corruption.

JOHN  CUMMINGS:   Arkansas?  Oh geez.  We have a chapter in there
which we refer to as  "America's Banana Republic."  Which is what
it is.

CONSPIRACY NATION:  So at this point you're being stymied.

JOHN CUMMINGS:  Terry has run into a  big  road-block  with  this
judge.  Yeah.

CONSPIRACY NATION:  And what's the prognosis at this point?

JOHN CUMMINGS:  Well, I think that (I'm giving you my speculation
now),  if Terry appeals this, if he can't appeal it now, it would
keep the case out of court  until  after the election -- which is
what I think they're after.

CONSPIRACY NATION:  In your book,  there's  two  occasions  where
Reed actually meets with Clinton...

JOHN CUMMINGS:  There were three meetings.  Reed only talks about
two.

CONSPIRACY NATION:  And the third is kept quiet, for now.
    I  talked  with  Sarah  McClendon,  the  veteran  White House
correspondent.  And she thinks  that  Clinton is just, basically,
innocent.  How involved was Clinton?

JOHN CUMMINGS:  Up to his ears.  Here was  a  guy,  what  he  was
doing was playing ball with the Administration in Washington, and
for  a lot of reasons.  There was a lot of money flowing into the
state.  You have to *really*  understand the amount of money that
was flowing into Arkansas.  And the net effect of this  was,  the
money  went  to finance firms run by Clinton's friends, who could
then make  very  nice  campaign  contributions  to  him.  I mean,
Clinton never got any of that money directly.

CONSPIRACY NATION:  When I talked with Sarah McClendon, she  said
that  there were several "Menas", so-called; that this was not an
isolated operation.

JOHN CUMMINGS:  There was at least  one other that I know of, out
in Texas.  [Barry] Seal was involved.

CONSPIRACY NATION:  The Arkansas  Development  Finance  Authority
[ADFA],  the way that worked:  drug money goes into ADFA and then
it gets loaned out to people...

JOHN CUMMINGS:  [Barry Seal] was dropping $9 million a month into
Arkansas.  And the money ended up going to Dan Lasater.  Where it
went from there, who  knows?   ADFA...  Nobody knows where ADFA's
money came from.  We know that they lent out a lot  of  money  to
Bill  Clinton's  friends  -- people who didn't need it!  ADFA was
supposedly set up  to  help  companies  that couldn't get regular
financing.

CONSPIRACY NATION:   You've  looked  into  the  drug  corruption.
What's your opinion on the "War on Drugs"?

JOHN CUMMINGS:  The "War on Drugs" is a joke.

CONSPIRACY  NATION:   Orlin Grabbe, a former finance professor at
the Wharton Business College,  has  theorized that what this "War
on Drugs" is about is inflating the cost of these drugs; that the
United States sells arms to the Third World and the  Third  World
has no way to pay, except with their drugs.  And the way it works
is,  the  "War  on  Drugs"  artificially boosts the cost of these
drugs.

JOHN CUMMINGS:  I'm somewhat aware of  his theory.  And I have no
serious argument with it, although I have no  personal  knowledge
of that.
    I'll  put  it to you this way:  the guy who originally put me
on to Barry Seal was a narcotics investigator.  And he said to me
(referring to Seal), "I  thought  I  was chasing the biggest drug
trafficker in the country, only to learn that  the  biggest  drug
trafficker  in the country *was* the country."  (And I think that
really tells it all.)  He  suddenly  realized that he'd spent his
life on a fool's errand.
    The "War on Drugs" is a tremendous farce.  But it's  easy  to
sell this country on anything.

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The following is taken from the Congressional Record of the 29 of May
1996.  The HONORABLE Mr. Dornan of Indiana is the HONORABLE gentleman
who has placed them into the Congressional Record for all us.

Perhaps "Judge" Kenneth Starr will now have the testicles to place the
mill stone in motion! Personally, I doubt that this will ever occur as
Starr was appointed Solicitor General of the United States by the most
successfull cocaine smuggler in our nation's history, William
Jefferson Clinton's partner, George Herbert Bush.

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Title: TRUTH IN SPEAKING
(House of Representatives - May 29, 1996)
CR [Page: H5627]

The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under a previous order of the House, the
gentleman from California Mr. Dornan is recognized for 5 minutes.

Mr. DORNAN. Mr. Speaker, there are so many subjects racing through my
mind right now for a 5-minute special order. I was going to talk about
an Army hero who was killed in Bosnia trying to, to use his own words
from a few hours before his death, clear these stinking minefields for
the children of Bosnia, but the last gentlewoman began her remarks by
saying it is time for truth in speaking.

Let me tell the gentlewoman, as somebody who started investigating
Little Rock in 1992, before the Clintons were in the White house, I
think Little Rock, just Little Rock, in an otherwise great State, and
only in the field of politics with some businesspeople, was a stinking
hole of corruption; with not this current Governor, but the prior
Governor, a stinking hole of corruption. And that like Hamlet's line
about murder, though it hath no tongue, will by most miraculous organ
out, all of this financial corruption will by most miraculous organ
out by, using her very words, truth in speaking.

CR [Page: H5628]

Mr. BURTON of Indiana. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield?

Mr. DORNAN. I yield to the gentleman from California.

Mr. BURTON of Indiana. Mr. Speaker, what I did in my special order was
ask a number of questions that were still unanswered. One of the
questions that I think is very, very important is why did the Arkansas
Development Financial Authority send $50 million of Arkansas money to
the Cayman Islands to deposit in a bank in the Cayman Islands, which
is a major drug transit point acknowledged by almost every DEA agent
in the world? Why would they send $50 million of Arkansas money down
there? That is a question that needs to be answered.

I have the electronic bank transfer statements in my office. I am
going to put them in the Congressional Record.  There is no doubt the
money was wired to the Cayman Islands.  The question needs to be
asked, why was it wired? Why would the Governor of Arkansas allow
that? Why would the Arkansas Development Financial Authority, a
State-run agency, send their money out of the country to a drug haven?
I hope that the independent counsel will explore that. We are going to
ask other questions as well.

Mr. DORNAN. Mr. Speaker, no one other than the gentleman has
investigated the Vince Foster thing or analyzed it. And the line of
Vince Foster's that comes back to us from the grave about the whole
Whitewater mess and the IRS problems was, these are Vince Foster's
words, `This is a can of worms we do not want to open.' The can of
worms was opened in front of that jury and they got 24 felony
convictions.

Mr. Speaker, I yield to the gentlewoman from Texas, the Portia from
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STATEMENT OF PLAINTIFF TERRY K. REED
====================================
June 3, 1996
RE: LRC 94-634
REED v. YOUNG, et al.

On July 5, 1991, one month shy  of 5 years ago, my wife Janis and
I mustered up the courage to register ourselves as plaintiffs  in
a  civil  law  suit  that  we knew was seeded with political land
mines.  That original lawsuit, LRC 91-414, filed in federal court
in Little Rock, Arkansas,  and  later  to evolve into case number
LRC 94-634, has transformed into an all-consuming  endeavor,  for
not  only  Janis  and me, our team of lawyers, but many concerned
American citizens as well.

We knew all along, as well did Little Rock Federal District Judge
George Howard,  Jr.,  that  this  case  was  not  only  about the
violation of our civil rights, but carried with it the burden  of
re-educating the Court, the jury, and the American people about a
painful period known in the annals of history as Iran-Contra.

Slowly  but  surely,  we and our legal team have been penetrating
layer upon layer  of  government  disinformation  created for the
sole purpose of preventing the truth to  surface  concerning  the
Reagan  Administration's efforts to assist the Nicaraguan Contras
in Arkansas.  The Executive  branch's by-passing of congressional
restraints designed to prohibit or restrict military aid  to  the
Contras  through  the  law  known  as the Boland Amendment was in
great part carried out on  Arkansas  soil with the full knowledge
and complicity of our now-sitting President, Bill Clinton.

Some of the CIA's activities which took place at  Bill  Clinton's
Mena,  Arkansas  were  patriotically driven and justified.  Other
activities, however,  those  which  included  the  importation of
cocaine and money laundering,  can  never  be  justified  in  the
domain  of  the  public.   For  this  reason,  there  has  been a
concerted and bi-partisan effort to keep the subject matter known
as MENA from becoming legitimized through the court process.

Judge Howard's court has at  times  condoned our efforts to amass
non-partisan evidence to not only prove our  case,  but  to  also
re-write  history  and do what Independent Counsel Lawrence Walsh
either feared or  failed  to  do  after  conducting a $40 million
investigation:  to tell the truth about the CIA's  activities  in
Mena, Arkansas in the mid-1980s.

To  begin, let me recap our motivations for suing Raymond (Buddy)
Young, then a captain with  the Arkansas State Police and serving
as Bill Clinton's gubernatorial chief of security.  Young is  now
the  director  of  Region  6  of the Federal Emergency Management
Authority (FEMA) and based  at  Denton, Texas.  From his position
at  FEMA  he  still  finds  time  to  protect  Bill  Clinton   by
threatening  former Clinton bodyguards whenever they come forward
with evidence  which  may  embarrass  the  President  or  hint of
wrong-doing.

We felt then, as we feel now, that Mr. Young was a dangerous  and
unethical man who should never have been allowed to wear a badge.
Yet,  there  he  was  in  1987,  officing  out  of the Governor's
mansion, drawing from the resources of the state of Arkansas, and
behaving as any modern day crime family "enforcer" as he provided
"security" for Arkansas' first family, Bill, Hillary, and Chelsea
Clinton.

Providing security:  what does this encompass?  That is what this
case was destined  to  expose.   Does  it  include destroying the
lives of people who innocently become a  political  liability  to
powerful politicians, namely his boss, Bill Clinton?

Well,  the  senior  federal  judge  in  Wichita, Kansas, Frank G.
Theis, ruled in 1990  that  these "security services" included at
least the orchestration of  phony  criminal  indictments  against
myself  and  Janis.   The  question is, why?  We wanted to answer
that question  in  Judge  Howard's  court.   We  already knew the
answer.  I had worked at  the  Mena  airport  and  could  connect
prominent  Arkansan  power  brokers  and politicians to some very
nefarious activity.  Simply said:   Janice and I were liabilities
and had to be dealt with.

As Judge Theis clearly saw, Young was not  a  solo  actor  as  he
conducted  the  despicable  deed  of  trying  to  wrongfully  and
illegally  cause  innocent  people  to be incarcerated or killed.
Theis concluded that Young had at least one accomplice, Tommy Lee
Baker, of Little  Rock,  Arkansas,  another former Arkansas State
cop and sometimes private detective.  Mr. Baker now sells alcohol
to some of Little Rock's lower socio-economic groups through  his
liquor store on East 9th Street.

Judge  Theis,  the  senior  federal  judge  for  the 10th circuit
district, had witnessed  Young  and  Baker  shuffling through his
court room on more than one occasion between  1988  and  1990  as
they   emerged  as  the  star  witnesses  in  a  U.S.  Government
prosecution designed to imprison  Janis  and  myself for 20 years
each -- for a crime we knew absolutely nothing about.

Yet, Young and Baker,  through  their  own  perjurous  lips,  and
manufactured  material  evidence,  had  convinced  a  Kansas U.S.
Attorney that Janis and  I  were  drug smuggling airplane thieves
who were so "armed and dangerous" that we and our young  children
could have been shot on sight by any overly wary or trigger-happy
law enforcement officer.  Young, by his own admission, fabricated
and authored a criminal profile that presented us as a modern day
Bonnie and Clyde.

But  miraculously,  by  November,  1990, through two and one half
years of effort, a lot of money,  and a little bit of luck, Janis
and I and our criminal defense  lawyers  were  able  to  set  the
record  straight in Judge Theis' courtroom.  The judge exonerated
us of  *all*  alleged  criminal  wrong-doing  by  finding me "not
guilty"   and   at   the   same   time   lashed   out   at    the
government-embraced  accusers.  In the judge's own written words,
sworn statements made by both Baker  and Young were "made with at
least reckless disregard for the truth."

On my day of judgement, November 9, 1990, when I was acquitted, I
quietly vowed to bring Buddy Young and Tommy Baker to justice  --
to  expose  them  for  the dregs that they are -- simply bad cops
hiding  behind  tarnished  badges  and  taking  instructions from
corrupt power-brokers  and  politicians  who  likewise  should be
prosecuted and forced from office to an awaiting prison cell.

But that is not going to happen in Judge Howard's courtroom,  and
not  through  the five years of sweat and effort that Janis and I
have devoted  to  this  uphill  and  horrendously expensive legal
exercise.

Judge Howard, for reasons unexplained but clearly understood, has
decided to protect these scoundrels,  and  in  so  doing  protect
those  who  assigned  Young and Baker their "targets".  In recent
months Judge Howard has gutted our lawsuit and in the process has
exposed the strings to which  he  is attached -- strings that are
obviously being pulled from Washington, and  more  significantly,
the White House.

So  who  is  Judge Howard protecting?  I can't fathom it would be
the enemies of civil liberties  like  Young  and Baker.  Why is a
federal  judge,  who  up  until  recently  appeared  to   be   so
sympathetic with civil rights issues, ordering me to *not* put on
the  evidence  we  have  amassed  that  can clearly prove WHO was
instructing Young and Baker to violate our civil rights?

The judge, by his  own  order,  has  specifically forbidden me to
introduce the following evidence, evidence my lawyers desperately
need to prove motive on behalf  of  Young  and  Baker  and  other
unnamed co-conspirators.

			      ORDER

  Pending  before  the Court is defendants' December 4th motion
  in limine to exclude  the  following matters:  .......  These
  general areas will be referred to as the "Mena"  evidence  or
  documents.

  .......Even  if  the  Court  were  to find that the complaint
  adequately   states    sufficient    facts    to   make   the
  allegations....... relevant to the alleged overt  actions  of
  these   defendants,  the  probative  value  is  substantially
  outweighed by the dangers  of  unfair prejudice, confusion of
  issues,  the  potential  for  misleading  of  the  jury   and
  considerations  of  undue  delay  and  waste  of  time.   The
  following description will control:

  Any  reference  to the plaintiffs' participation in programs,
  operations or missions  sponsored  by  the  Federal Bureau of
  Investigation or the Central Intelligence Agency or any other
  agency of the United States government, covert or  otherwise,
  as  well as any organization sponsored by or aligned with the
  United  States  government  specifically  including,  but not
  limited to, any programs, operations or missions conducted in
  southwest  Arkansas  regarding  the  training  of  Nicaraguan
  nationals, the funding and support for any factions  involved
  in  the Nicaraguan conflict and any contact or communications
  with operatives or officials  of  the above-named agencies or
  organizations.  Any reference to President or  Governor  Bill
  Clinton   and/or  Hillary  Clinton  and  the  Mena  or  Nella
  Airports.   Any  references  to  Barry  Seale  [sic]  and any
  alleged drug smuggling operation or other references  to  the
  Mena  and  Nella  Airports,  or to a business relationship of
  Barry Seale [sic] and  Dan  Lasater,  Lasater and Company and
  the Arkansas Development and  Finance  Authority  (ADFA)  and
  ADFA's former Director, Bob Nash.

  .......IT IS SO ORDERED THIS 8th day of March, 1996.

			   George Howard, Jr. [signed]
			   United States District Judge


Judge  Howard,  through  his  own  order,  has exposed himself.
Unwittingly, he and  his  integrity  have now been compromised.
By dissecting his order, one can clearly see two things.

1.  Judge Howard is eliminating evidence that he  has  not  yet
even seen.  Most of our 110 witnesses were not deposed prior to
trial.   The  judge, and even worse, the defendants, don't know
what our witnesses would  say  on  the  stand... and that's the
problem,  isn't  it?   Heaven  forbid  the  unadulterated   and
unedited  and unrehearsed and uncensored truth spill out within
the walls of a federal court house.

2.  Judge Howard is  protecting  people and government agencies
not even named in the lawsuit.  This is abundantly  clear  when
one  notes  the  names  of  Bill  Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Dan
Lasater, Bob Nash, and the Arkansas state agency known as ADFA.
Bill, Hillary, Dan,  Bob  and  ADFA  are  not defendants in the
suit.  One can only conclude from this judge's bizarre behavior
that  there  has  been   wrongful,   unethical,   and   illegal
communication   between   the   judge   and  the  White  House.
Otherwise,  these  names  wouldn't   appear  in  the  Order  --
especially  that  of  Bob  Nash.   Bob  Nash  has  never   been
officially   accused  of  any  wrong  doing,  although  I  have
knowledge of same, and this would come out in court.  And where
is Bob Nash? He's in the White House -- Director of Personnel.

As a former  U.S.  Air  Force  intelligence  professional, I am
making the  following  observation:   this  Democrat  appointed
judge is running interference for Bill Clinton in this election
year.   Mena  will not be *allowed* to become a political issue
in the 1996 race  for  the  Presidency.   Judge Howard has been
appointed to be our road block to justice.  At the same time he
is cleverly putting Janis, me and  my  lawyers  in  a  suicidal
posture.   We  can  go  to  trial,  we  just  cannot put on our
evidence.

And speaking of  suicide,  imagine  the  forces  that are causing
judge Howard to fall on his sword.  When this is over, surely  he
will  have no judicial integrity or respect.  But I guess that is
a price one pays when one is securely employed for life.

And what was the judge's  response  when  my  law team filed a 20
page motion on April 23, 1996 giving him the alternatives to:
  1. Reconsider his March 8th gag order, or
  2. Hear oral arguments on our evidentiary dispute, or
  3. Allow us to appeal this evidentiary dispute  to  the  8th
     Circuit Court of Appeals prior to trial
His succinct response was

			    ORDER

Plaintiffs'   April   23rd   motion   for   reconsideration   and
clarification  or, alternatively, for leave to file interlocutory
appeal (#55) is denied for the reasons contained in the March 8th
order and defendants' May 6th response.
.......IT IS SO ORDERED THIS 10th day of May, 1996.

				  George Howard, Jr. [signed]
				  United States District Judge


Devastation does  not  come  close  to  describing  our feelings.
After years of dragging  this  case  through  the  federal  civil
justice   system,  Judge  Howard  has  manipulated  us  into  the
following legal posture:  we can go to court but we cannot put on
critical evidence,  therefore  we  will  lose.   That  loss, even
though we could appeal  it  (and  the  appeal  would  consume  at
minimum  another  year  of  our  lives and tens of thousands more
dollars), will be interpreted  by  the  Clinton spin doctors as a
victory.  There will be no mention of the  fact  our  hands  were
tied, and our mouths were gagged, and the so-called "trial" was a
travesty of justice.  They will attempt to convince the media, at
a  critical point in the election process, that Mena is a figment
of my imagination, even though  the Mena evidence was not allowed
to be presented in court.

Proudly being a former member of the U.S. armed services,  I  was
trained  to  win  wars,  not  lose  them.   I refuse to repeat my
Vietnam experience and not be *allowed* to win.

When we rather  naively  filed  the  original complaint, our sons
were ages 4, 6, and 8.  They are now 9,  11,  and  13,  and  have
little  or  no  memory of their parents not being consumed in the
efforts to properly  litigate  this  case.   For  the sake of our
children, and the sanity of our family unit, we are making a very
difficult and painful decision.

Ruefully, after 59 months of a stressful, tumultuous and at times
triumphant struggle, we are being forced  to  conclude  that  the
subject  of Mena will never be presented within the confines of a
federal court room, and  that  Janis  and  I will not see justice
served.  Instead, we now cynically view the federal  court  house
in Little Rock as a monument to federal corruption, and a slap in
the face to all Americans who believe in the separation of powers
provided under the Constitution.

With  tears  in  our eyes, lumps in our throats, and knots in our
stomachs, we are instructing our attorneys to non-suit this case.

To the  hundreds  of  people  who  directly  participated  in our
struggle, we would like to remind  them  of  the  many  victories
achieved  throughout  the  course of our ordeal.  In many ways we
did win -- at least in the court of public opinion.  Our numerous
depositions,  which  were   funded   in   great  part  by  public
contributions, have clearly established the fact that  the  CIA's
activities at Mena, Arkansas *did* take place, and that prominent
politicians  from  both  parties  either  were  complicit  in the
illegal activities that swirled  around this covert operation, or
even worse, were directly involved or benefited.

I would like to think that my personal  hero,  Harry  S.  Truman,
would  be  proud  of  our  accomplishments,  even  in the face of
overwhelming odds.  At times of  strife  he was encouraged by the
average citizen to "Give 'em hell,  Harry!"   I  too  have  heard
voices  who backed me shout, "Give 'em hell, Terry!"  I hope I've
lived up to the task.

And to Raymond (Buddy) Young,  Tommy Lee Baker, and those working
with the Arkansas political establishment who  have  successfully
undermined  my efforts to take this material to trial, I will now
quote from  another  hero  of  mine,  Douglas  McArthur:  "I will
return."

	  Terry K. Reed [signed]         3 Jun 96
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I missed the story that Reed had dropped it.

Was he paid off?  Or is he preserving rights to
file at a later date where the court will allow
his evidence?

DS

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    This is a really big surprise. Anybody hear anything about a
settlement? Did Terry run out of money? Was he threatened further?
What's the deal?

    Jay A.



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Subject: Lawsuit against former Clinton aide dropped
Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 23:00:03 PDT


  LITTLE ROCK, Ark (Reuter) - A lawsuit against three Arkansas
men including President Clinton's former chief of security was
dismissed late Friday at the plaintiff's request.
  Jury selection in the case was to begin Monday, and the
plaintiff's motion to dismiss the case was filed only minutes
before the close of business Friday afternoon in federal
district court in Little Rock.
  The suit was filed by Terry Reed, a Missouri resident and
self-described CIA operative who said he once trained pilots for the
Nicaraguan Contra resistance at a remote Arkansas airstrip. Reed
claimed he was targeted for economic retribution after he uncovered
evidence of cocaine smuggling.
  Reed's suit alleged that Barry Seal, a well-known drug
smuggler and government informant who was shot to death in
Louisiana several years ago, had a ``business relationship''
with Dan Lasater, a former Little Rock investment banker with
social and political ties to Clinton.
  Lasater testified recently before the Senate Whitewater
Committee regarding allegations that he received preferred
treatment on a bond issue after making contributions to
Clinton's campaign for governor of Arkansas in the 1980s.
Lasater denied the charge.
  Lasater served a prison sentence several years ago on
cocaine charges, and he has acknowledged loaning Clinton's
younger brother, Roger, $8,000 to pay a cocaine debt.
  One of the defendants in Reed's suit was Raymond ``Buddy''
Young, a former captain in the Arkansas State Police who
commanded Clinton's security detail while he was governor.
After being elected president, Clinton appointed Young a
regional director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency.
  Reed's motion to dismiss the suit was filed so late in the
day that reporters could not obtain copies of the document,
which could indicate his reasons for withdrawing the action and
whether a settlement was involved.
  Lawyers for President Clinton were watching the case because
of the number of individuals with current or past ties to
Clinton were either defendants or potential witnesses.







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WHAT IS WHITEWATER REALLY ALL ABOUT?
By Sherman H. Skolnick

The popular press would have us believe that Whitewater was a few
real estate mistakes of Bill and Hillary Clinton. Totally no more
than 69 thousand dollars or so. Why the press is kidding us may
become more clear after considering a few items the press has not
seen fit to tell us.

William Jefferson Clinton deems himself a clever man. Recruited
by CIA early on, he was in a position to understand counter-
intelligence and espionage agencies using different financial
entities as a money laundry to disguise covert action funds.

Bill was recruited by Central Intelligence supposedly as a
travelling student. In Prague, at the time [of] the Soviets'
bloody seizure from the local communists, Bill stayed at the home
of the son of a leading communist leader. Those not understanding
the use of students as spies and counter-spies might simply label
Clinton as a "Red". Actually, Bill was part of a CIA counter-
espionage scheme, similar to the role of Allard K. Lowenstein as
head of the National Student Association in the 1950s.
Lowenstein's operation, somewhat similar to Bill's, was done with
foundations acting as conduits for CIA funding. Some journalists,
like this writer, began confronting Lowenstein with his CIA
links. While plotting to help Ted Kennedy somehow steal the 1980
presidential election, Lowenstein was blown away by a so-called
"lone assassin".

Clinton also went to Moscow, again the travelling student with an
espionage agenda. He accomplished what his bosses at CIA
considered a brilliant move: Clinton stole a secret transcript of
a tongue-lashing one Soviet dictator gave to others in their
ruling elite. Conveyed by Clinton to CIA, this endeared Bill to
the Rockefellers. After all, CIA's worldwide job has been to
guard Rockefeller's foreign oil properties.

So Clinton's rise to power has to be understood in this context.
After all, Arkansas is a sizeable state with a small population.
Is it a secret the Rockefellers own and operate Arkansas?
Winthrop Rockefeller was Governor of the State a few terms before
Bill. Worthen Banking Group and the Jackson Stephens family --
headquartered in Little Rock -- are the largest bond brokers and
investment bankers outside of Wall Street. They apparently are
all fronting for the Rockefellers and the American spy shop.

Hillary Rodham is a CIA darling as well, in some ways separate
and apart from "Sludge Willie". In spook parlance, they are a
"CIA couple". Yes, they are married and had a daughter. Yet, Bill
and Hillary are part of somewhat separate espionage agendas.
Hillary understands plenty. She was a key aide during the
Watergate investigation whitewash of the role of CIA. Put in a
nutshell, Nixon wanted to become an imperial president by
blackmailing CIA on their role in the murder of President
Kennedy. CIA double agents supposedly working for the Nixon
White House arranged to get themselves caught at the Watergate
Hotel. Result: the downfall of Nixon, arranged by CIA, and
Hillary, early in her career, played her part.

Hillary went on to become board chairman of a CIA foundation
instrumental in funding dirty tricks using agents provocateurs.
The CIA and their use of foundations, like the one later headed
by Hillary, is a story all by itself. This writer once taught a
course at a radio/TV broadcast school on the subject of CIA and
their foundations and how to research and investigate the same.

An entity much-used by CIA was the Bank of Credit and Commerce
International [BCCI]. Foreign espionage agencies, like those of
France and Israel, likewise used BCCI. The popular press has
given Americans the false understanding that the rogue bank was a
purely Arab creature.

There are profound reasons why the mass media are fearful of
pushing too hard on the Clintons. The fall-out would damage a few
other windows as well.

In 1991, four major news organizations had obtained the bribery
list, showing who BCCI had bribed, worldwide, including the
United States. By some mystery it was, for thirty days only, a
public record at the Bank of England. One of these news groups
corroborated that the list was correct as to the United States.
According to the details, 108 members of the U.S. House of
Representatives and 28 U.S. Senators received bribes from BCCI.
Part of the scheme involved 6 Chicago commodity brokers, some
with offices in London. One of them, Capcom, was reportedly
secretly owned by major officials of one of the largest cable
companies with purported links to Turner Broadcasting of Atlanta.

BCCI wanted to penetrate the American banking scene in a big way.
They did a thing natural to cynical big business: they bought
Congress. The details were too shocking for the major news group.
So a brave journalist turned over the details to this writer and
his associates who further verified the details and wrote
exclusive stories in 1991. Reportedly implicated was Wendy Gramm,
at the time head of the federal agency regulating commodity
brokers, the Commodity Futures Trading Commission. She is the
wife of Senator Phil Gramm (R., Texas).

The strange death of Vincent Foster, jr., Clinton White House
aide, is bound up with activities of Foster and Hillary to assist
BCCI to penetrate American business.

Records of the House Banking Committee show BCCI was practically
a twin of another scandal-ridden operation, Banca Nazionale del
Lavoro [BNL], Italy's largest bank, owned in part by the Vatican.
The Congressional Committee sought further records of BNL's
Chicago branch. A Federal judge in Chicago, close to the Bush
White House, issued an injunction to stop the House Banking
Committee from using records of BNL Chicago. Involved were huge
transactions of Saddam Hussein, the Iraqi strongman, and his
secret, private business partner. In May, 1991, shortly after the
Persian Gulf War, the case ended up to be heard by a three-judge
panel in the U.S. Court of Appeals in Chicago. This writer and
his associates were the only journalists attending the hearing.
Afterwards, in the back of the courtroom, we did exclusive
interviews with some of the participants in the case. They
confirmed what we had heard elsewhere from reliable sources: that
George Herbert Walker Bush, at the time President, was the
secret, private business partner in joint ventures with the Iraqi
dictator. Involved in the bank records were tens of billions of
dollars of oil kick-backs from various Persian Gulf oil-soaked
sheikdoms, shared by Bush and his cronies with Saddam Hussein.
The Iraqi dictator was the bully boy of the Persian Gulf and
received 25 percent of the proceeds of oil shipped to the West.
So, when oil was 20 dollars per barrel, Hussein split the 5
dollar per barrel kick-back with Bush and his bunch. A trillion
dollars of oil was shipped from the Gulf in the decade, 1980 to
1990. The corrupt rake-off amounted to 25 billion dollars per
year, making Saddam Hussein and Bush the richest men on the
planet.

The federal trial judge had ordered the Banking Committee to
return the records and enjoined their disclosure and use. After
the appeals court hearing, the Bush Justice Department leaked
details to certain journalists, that one of the 3-judge panel had
taken bribes, known to the Justice Department, in eight other
unrelated cases. In that context, the end result became obvious.
The appeals court panel ordered the BNL Chicago case to be
removed from the courthouse, a way of hushing the matter up.

The press, other than small publications, will not say a single
word about the case of Bank Lavoro's Chicago branch. And not a
single committee of the House or Senate will utter a single word
about the Chicago mess. Congress and the press have discussed a
federal case involving BNL's Atlanta branch. Some 5 billion
dollars was secretly diverted to Iraq -- a paltry sum by
comparison to BNL Chicago. Disguised as Agriculture Department
loans, the funds were diverted for Iraq to buy weapons from
American companies.

The press and Congress have omitted some key details about Iraq
and BNL Atlanta. The deal was arranged and strategized by Hillary
Rodham Clinton in conjunction with her law partner at the Rose
Law Firm in Little Rock, namely, [Vince] Foster. Part of the
Iraqi weapons money reportedly was washed through the banks of
Clinton's cronies, Jackson Stephens and the Worthen Banking
Group.

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WHAT IS WHITEWATER REALLY ALL ABOUT?
By Sherman H. Skolnick

[...continued...]

Almost all in the press ignored the story that the Federal
Reserve was investigating Hillary and Foster in respect to money
laundering [of] illicit funds through foreign bank arrangements.

Were the deals with BNL Chicago and BNL Atlanta arranged by and
through CIA? With the aid of former CIA Director George Bush and
CIA darling Hillary? A host of circumstantial details, enough to
fill several books, tend to prove that.

Then there is the case of Bill and Hillary Clinton and the
mysterious fifty million dollars. Some background gives the
context.

Pending since 1984 have been a slew of state and federal cases in
the Chicago area that together have come to be called the
Andreuccetti Affair. Named for Joseph Andreuccetti, a west
suburban caulking contractor pushed, he says, into *involuntary*
bankruptcy by massive fraud of several banks and savings and
loans. One such S&L [was] taken over by Household International,
parent of Household Bank, together successors to the CIA-linked
Nugan-Hand Bank of Australia. (See: Jonathan Kwitny's book, *The
Crimes of Patriots*.)

Because of large, pending claims by Andreuccetti against the
defunct S&L, the federal bail-out machine, Resolution Trust
Corporation [RTC], set up a 58 million dollar fund parked with
Household. One of Joe's [Andreuccetti's] attorneys more or less
supervised the fund, John E. Gierum. In January, 1994, Gierum, of
suburban Park Ridge, confessed to this writer, in the presence of
Andreuccetti, about Gierum's troubles. Gierum has been a close
crony of Hillary's family (originally from Park Ridge), the
Rodhams. The White House, Gierum confessed, is trying to frame
Gierum for the secret transfer of 50 million dollars of that
contingency fund. The fund was transferred to Little Rock, to
make good some 47 million dollars gone from Madison Guaranty
Savings and Loan; some federal sources blame the President and
First Lady for the missing 47 million dollars, talking darkly of
mis-appropriation or bank embezzlement.

Gierum knew this writer from a probe of the Andreuccetti Affair
by a court reform group headed by this writer. Gierum said he did
not think he could prevent from getting "framed" for the
mysterious 50 million dollar transfer.

"You're a skilled lawyer, you should be able to defend yourself,"
Gierum was told. The attorney explained mournfully that the
powers that be, that is, the Clinton White House, have the matter
set up, and the usual defense of the law and the facts cannot
help Gierum.

Reliable federal sources told us some 32 bookkeepers were unable
to locate or figure out how the 50 million dollars disappeared
from Household and RTC Chicago. By the way, is it just
coincidence? Former CIA pilot Terry Reed, in his book,
*Compromised*, telling how he flew CIA dope into the airport at
Mena, Arkansas, also mentions a mysterious 50 million dollars.

Other senior federal sources contend part of the 50 million
dollars was funneled to the Grand Cayman Islands, with the
reported help of Fuji Bank, and then, on to Switzerland. A Swiss
bank reportedly has part of the money, mixed in with other
illicit funds gathered for Clinton, part of it reportedly dope
loot, under the code name "Chelsea Jefferson" -- "Chelsea" being
the name of Clinton's daughter, and "Jefferson" being Bill's
middle name.

In the Andreuccetti cases, the details of Hillary's crony
Gierum's confession are a matter of court record. Gierum was
served a copy and he did not dispute the same.

RTC investigators have known about the 50 million dollar fund
secretly disappearing and secretly transferred to Little Rock, to
cover up the reported Clinton embezzlement. One RTC senior
investigation specialist was looking too deep into the matter:
Jon Parnell Walker. He was "suicided", that is, murdered, by
being thrown off a building in Arlington, Virginia. His friends,
family, and co-workers all agree on one fact: Walker was not
depressed; maybe just impulsive. In any case, Walker's demise was
to show other RTC people it is unhealthy to look into such things
as the 50 million dollar mystery.

Another mess involving Hillary and Foster involves the Chicago
operation of RTC. For several years, RTC's major outside
attorneys were the Chicago-based firm of Hopkins & Sutter. So
important was the law firm, RTC's offices were actually *inside*
Hopkin's Chicago office. Hopkins & Sutter, for RTC, arranged for
two members of a distant law firm, namely Hillary Rodham Clinton
and Vincent Foster, jr., of the Rose Law Firm of Little Rock, to
work the clean-up details of a defunct savings and loan of a west
suburb of Chicago. The S&L, owned by former Illinois Governor Dan
Walker, sr., went under in part because of corrupt bond deals
done with the Clinton business crony, Dan Lasater. Part of the
fall-out resulted in Dan Walker, sr., going to prison.

Hillary and Foster did a cover up job. And, is it just another
coincidence that Hopkins & Sutter partner, Jay Steinberg, is also
the bankruptcy trustee in the Andreuccetti Affair; Steinberg
himself reportedly involved in the mysterious 50 million dollar
transfer to Little Rock?

Hillary and her law partner Foster were also reportedly
implicated in arranging the transfer of illicit funds resulting
from the cocaine shipments by CIA pilots into Mena. Here is how
it reportedly worked:

1. The dope loot was washed through the Arkansas Development
Finance Authority [ADFA], a state creature originated by Bill
Clinton as Governor.

2. From there, the dope funds were transferred, in part, to
Arkansas banks and bond brokers who transferred the loot to
Garfield Ridge Trust & Savings Bank of Chicago. That is a small,
closely-held bank; the owners include:
   *** Dan Rostenkowski, owner for more than 20 years of the bank;
       for more than 30 years a Congressman; now a scandalized
       former Congressman;
   *** Dan Shannon, once board chairman of that bank; he and his
       family closely linked to the illicit financial operations
       of Mayor Richard J. Daley, who ran Chicago City Hall for
       21 years, and his son Richie, Chicago mayor since 1989;
   *** And, the most important owner, reportedly, as to this
       context, Hugh Rodham, Hillary's brother who went to law
       school with Gierum and is the White House connection.

Federal investigators contend they have been investigating the
Garfield Ridge Bank for the last 2-and-a-half years, as to the
dope money trail from Arkansas.

>From that bank, the dope loot was reportedly transferred, in
part, to the Chicago Mercantile Exchange which also helped cover
up Hillary's mysterious 100 thousand dollar windfall on commodity
speculations. Several traders on the "Merc", although contending
they are not personally involved, admitted to this writer that
they expect a horrendous scandal because of the washing on the
"Merc" of Mena dope money.

>From the "Merc", the dope loot, in turn, was reportedly washed
through offshore accounts, reportedly, again, by Fuji Bank, for
the benefit of the Clintons.

Some of the Arkansas dope loot was disguised as fraudulent or
non-existent "loans" of the U.S. Small Business Administration
[SBA]. Although the Chicago regional office of SBA does not
include Arkansas, the funds were washed through Chicago. Is it
just another coincidence that White House crony John E. Gierum
has also been senior litigation attorney for the Small Business
Administration?

As more and more details pile up, you can see why Gierum's
undisputed confession takes on such significance.

What were some of the purposes of the dope money? Some 18
sizeable businesses have reportedly been financed this way,
including, reportedly, Tyson Foods, J.B. Hunt Trucking, and Wal-
Mart. We understand that Wal-Mart officials vigorously deny dope
funds played any part in the spreading out of their Arkansas-
based firm, nationwide. Perhaps someone never told them.

State and federal law enforcement authorities contend that Tyson
Foods and Don Tyson, the boss until recently, have long been
implicated in dope trafficking. Is Don Tyson, who stepped down as
head of the firm, evading a federal grand jury subpoena by way of
his extended vacation to the Cayman Islands? Some think so.

Then there is the circumstance of San Jacinto Savings & Loan,
once located in a Texas town with the same name. Federal
investigators contend somewhere between 15 and 150 million
dollars disappeared, by way of non-existent home loans to
Arkansas, and that Hillary is involved. A senior federal bank
investigator, returning from his work in Texas, said cryptically,
"Hillary is going to prison."

Unanswered questions:

1. Did Bill and Hillary Clinton benefit from all the apparent
embezzlement of savings & loan and other funds?

2. Did they only partly benefit personally?

3. Were they, either together, or each in a different project,
fronting for CIA covert fund activities, such as at Mena?

4. Is the really big secret about all this -- Mena, Little Rock,
Chicago, Atlanta -- that the illicit activities of the Clintons
overlapped the covert and illicit doings of George Bush and Ollie
North? And that this is what is causing both Democrats and
Republicans to be hung up, not wanting to really finger the
Clinton White House?

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>>>>>>>>>>>>>    Book says Clinton had CIA ties

"Partners in Power: The Clintons and Their America,"

Biography by Roger Morris

http://www.washtimes.com/


		[The Washington Times] [Front Page] [Image]
    Published in Washington, D.C.   June 24, 1996   "America's Newspaper"

Book says Clinton had CIA ties

By George Archibald
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Was Bill Clinton, as a graduate student at Oxford, a boy spy for the CIA?

    One of the intriguing mysteries of Mr. Clinton's life at Oxford, where
he was a Rhodes scholar during the Vietnam War, is how a young man of
relatively modest means from a small town in Arkansas managed a luxury tour
of Moscow at Christmas 1969. The president himself has never offered a full
explanation.

  A new biography of the president and the first lady, by Roger Morris, who
resigned from Richard Nixon's National Security Council to protest the
Vietnam War, offers a startling solution to the mystery:

  The young Bill Clinton was an informant for the Central Intelligence
Agency, paid to spy on his friends and classmates, reporting anti-war
activities in London.

  By Mr. Morris' telling in "Partners in Power: The Clintons and Their
America," Mr. Clinton's connection to the CIA continued through his tenure
as governor of Arkansas. Mr. Clinton, he writes, once encouraged his
favorite security officer to work for the CIA in support of a program of
flying aid to the Nicaraguan Contras out of the airport at Mena, a small
town nestled in the dense forests in the Ouachita Mountains of remote
western Arkansas.


		      -- Continued from Front Page --
	     The White House declined to respond to specific
	   allegations in the book. Mark Fabiani, the
	   president's special associate counsel, said in a
	   terse statement released through a spokeswoman that
	   the allegations are "bizarre and they speak for
	   themselves." CIA spokesman Mark Mansfield said: "It's
	   our long-standing policy not to comment on
	   allegations of affiliation with the agency."

	     Mr. Morris writes that several CIA officers he
	   knows do not believe that Mr. Clinton became an
	   agency "asset" during the Vietnam era. But others,
	   whom he believes to be "more plausible," say he was.
	   His chief source had made a record of Mr. Clinton's
	   listing within the CIA as an informant for "Operation
	   Chaos" in the late 1960s. The CIA purged the files
	   during the 1970s, when the Senate Foreign Relations
	   Committee, under the late Sen. Frank Church, Idaho
	   Democrat, investigated CIA spying activities.

	     Mr. Morris describes the source as "a retired [CIA]
	   officer who had been in many foreign postings as well
	   as in the agency in Washington."

	     "This was a man who was on the operations side, I
	   gather would have been under some degree of cover
	   when he was working abroad, [and] had been in several
	   different stations in Latin America, the Middle East,
	   and Europe," he continues.

	     This agent was with the CIA for 20 or 25 years "and
	   had not been purged or, I gathered, was not let go"
	   when he left the agency during the 1980s. "He had
	   served out a normal tenure, but had come to be one of
	   those people who later became very critical of the
	   intelligence operation in a very discreet way."

	     Among the book's other explosive revelations and
	   conclusions:

	      * The Mena operation was a major conduit for
		cocaine shipments from Colombia's Medellin drug
		cartel, and its distributors in Arkansas
		included Roger Clinton, the governor's
		half-brother, whose drug trafficking helped
		support a decade-long "four-gram-a-day" cocaine
		addiction. Mr. Morris describes the Mena
		operation as "a multibillion gun-running,
		drug-smuggling and money-laundering operation,
		an enormous criminal traffic carried on for at
		least five years with what the U.S. government's
		own documents secretly recorded as the collusion
		of organized crime, the CIA, and other
		Washington institutions."

	      * Mr. Clinton, fully aware of his brother's
		addiction and drug peddling, received cocaine
		from Roger Clinton, who described the governor
		on a police surveillance videotape as having "a
		nose like a vacuum cleaner." Roger Clinton also
		supplied cocaine to Dan Lasater, an investment
		broker with operations in Arkansas and Florida
		who was among the most generous contributors to
		Mr. Clinton's campaigns.

	      * In early 1984, undercover police filmed Roger
		Clinton telling a drug contact he needed $10,000
		"for my brother to take care of EPA regs and
		other environmental oversight problems"
		involving a land development project owned by
		Mr. Lasater. Arkansas police forwarded the
		surveillance evidence to the Justice
		Department's criminal division to investigate
		Mr. Clinton for corruption, but no action was
		taken.

	      * Mr. Clinton persuaded Mr. Lasater to hire his
		brother and send him to Florida to get him out
		of Arkansas. But Roger Clinton was indicted in
		August 1984, was convicted the following January
		and served a reduced two-year prison sentence
		after agreeing to testify against Mr. Lasater,
		who in December 1986 also received a 30-month
		prison sentence for cocaine distribution and
		conspiracy.

	     Though once the governor's favorite security agent
	   and bodyguard, state Trooper L.D. Brown fell from
	   favor after he told Mr. Clinton that Barry Seal, a
	   CIA contract pilot, was running arms for the Contras
	   from Arkansas to Honduras and returning to Arkansas
	   with cocaine. Barry Seal was later shot dead on a
	   street near his home in Baton Rouge, La., in a hit
	   believed to have been ordered by the Colombian
	   cartel.

	     Mr. Morris, who is now a history professor at the
	   University of New Mexico, says his 526-page book is
	   the result of a three-year investigation, based on
	   almost 300 separate interviews of law enforcement,
	   political, business and media sources in Arkansas,
	   and friends and colleagues of the president and first
	   lady Hillary Rodham Clinton. Much of it had first
	   been reported in The Washington Times.

	     "It's very much like a jigsaw puzzle, it's very
	   much a matter of fitting pieces together from
	   different angles," he says in an interview. "It
	   wasn't meant to be a collection of muck or of smut.
	   It was intended to be what I hope it is -- a serious
	   dual biography of these two people and a serious look
	   at the American political system." Mr. Morris, who
	   holds a doctorate in government from Harvard, served
	   as a Foreign Service officer and as an aide to
	   President Johnson, Secretary of State Dean Acheson
	   and Vice President Walter F. Mondale.

	     Most of his key sources asked anonymity for fear of
	   political retaliation, he says in an interview.

	     "Presidents Johnson and Nixon had a reputation for
	   being tough and ruthless and smearing their
	   opponents," he says, "but I don't think either one of
	   them hold a candle to the Clinton campaign. ... The
	   Clintons have this reputation of being young and
	   congenial and much more modern. They're very
	   old-fashioned in their retaliation."

	     In a 28-page chapter detailing sources, he writes
	   that he "followed the historian's rule of requiring
	   documentary support for every major assertion of fact
	   or state of mind and at least two and usually three
	   verifying sources for any quoted statement."

	     Mr. Morris, who is the author of an acclaimed
	   biography of the 37th president, "Richard Milhous
	   Nixon, The Rise of an American Politician," says that
	   he believes Mr. Clinton has a "deeply flawed"
	   character like Richard Nixon's, and, like him, may
	   also be forced to resign the presidency in disgrace.
	   "I think that probably he'll be re-elected and
	   probably Kenneth Starr's investigation will be a
	   slow-drip undoing of this administration which, I
	   think, is going to be a crisis for the country. It's
	   a sad prospect."

	     Mr. Starr, the independent counsel, he says, is "a
	   very methodical and cautious, careful man. I don't
	   think he's driven by any election calendar. I don't
	   know him personally, but if you look at his track
	   record, it's a very careful and conservative record.
	   He doesn't take risks and he's not very political at
	   all in his approach. I think he'll be very
	   documentary and very methodical. I think the heart of
	   his case will be financial."

	     Mr. Clinton's bodyguards in Arkansas, who say they
	   overheard many conversations involving Whitewater and
	   other disputed financial matters, will provide
	   important supportive evidence as they did in the
	   writing of his book, he says.

	     "The state troopers, who have been vilified so much
	   and attacked on all sides for their credibility, I
	   think proved to be accurate 99 percent of the time
	   ... about the Clintons and the events, the incidents,
	   on sworn statements and depositions. ... Since they
	   deal often with criminal matters, they were liable to
	   have been called up to a grand jury on perjury
	   issues." He credits the troopers' revelations, first
	   reported in the Los Angeles Times and the American
	   Spectator magazine, as "the expose that led
	   indirectly to the media and legal inquiries into
	   Whitewater."

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QUOTES FROM the BOOK: "Partners in Power: The Clintons and Their America."
By: Roger Morris

	 Espionage, drugs among the topics


	  Roger Morris, National Secu-
	 rity Council aide for Presidents
	 Johnson and Nixon and author
	 of an acclaimed critical biogra-
	 phy of Richard Nixon, writes in
	 his dual biography of Bill and
	 Hillary Clinton that not since
	 Watergate "has a White House
	 been so under suspicion for acts
	 of wrongdoing both before and
	 during the presidency." The fol-
	 lowing are excerpts from "Part-
	 ners in Power: The Clintons and
	 Their America."

>>>>>>>> Bill Clinton, CIA informant?:

	 " 'Bill Clinton's ties to the intelli-
	 gence community go back all
	 the way to Oxford and come for-
	 ward from there,' says a former
	 government official who claims
	 to have seen files long since de-
	 stroyed.... [T]he Central Intel-
	 ligence Agency's infamous Op-
	 eration Chaos of the 1960s had
	 been directed at uncovering
	 some discredited foreign hand
	 in antiwar activities at home and
	 abroad, to the point of recruiting
	 American student informants
	 and placing provocateurs
	 among the demonstrators....

	  "One more CIA retiree would
	 recall going through archives of
	 Operation Chaos at the Langley
	 headquarters -- part of an
	 agency purge amid the looming
	 congressional investigations of
	 the mid-1970s--and seeing Bill
	 Clinton listed, along with others,
	 as a former informant.... 'He
	 was there in the records ' the for-
	 mer agent said 'with a special
	 designation.' Still another CIA
	 source contended that part of
	 Clinton's arrangement as an in-
	 former had been further insur-
	 ance against the draft."

>>>>>>>> Bill Clinton and drugs:

	 "Roger Clinton had begun using
	 cocaine in the late 1970s and . . .
	 eventually was slave to a four-
	 gram-a-day habit. He supported
	 the addiction and a rakish life-
	 style by dealing drugs himself
	 with contacts in New York wind-
	 ing all the way to the Medellin
	 drug cartel in Colombia.... On
	 one of the 1983-84 videotapes
	 filmed by lo Gal narcotics offi-
	 cers, Roger Clinton was said to
	 tell a supplier jauntily, 'Got to
	 get some for my brother. He's
	 got a nose like a vacuum
	 cleaner.' ;;

>>>>>>>> Cash payoffs to the governor:

	 "According to the local narcotics
	 officers who made the tapes
	 video surveillance footage
	 showed Roger discussing var-
	 ious payoffs of $30,000 to ar-
	 range government approval of
	 sewer lines for a large develop-
	 ment that was an interest of a
	 close Clinton friend and major
	 contributor, multimillionaire
	 bond broker and later convicted
	 drug dealer Dan Lasater.
	  "'I need $10,000 for my
	 brother to take care of EPA regs
	 and other environmental over-
	 sight problems,' the officer
	 quoted Roger as saying on the
	 tapes, which were turned over to
	 the state police, never to be pre-
	 sented at trial. City police offi-
	 cers who shot the tapes were
	 told the portions dealing with
	 imputed involvement of the gov-
	 ernor had been forwarded to the
	 Public Integrity office of the
	 Justice Department in Washing-
	 ton early in 1984, but then they
	 heard no more."

	  Roger Clinton's drug-traffick-
	 ing conviction: "[Dissident state
	 police] managed to get details of
	 the case to Hillary Rodham Clin-
	 ton as well, counting on her to
	 force the governor to keep his
	 hands off as a political precau-
	 tion. By the dissidents' account,
	 the first lady reacted exactly as
	 they hoped, rushing to Clinton
	 with her own report on Roger
	 and ordering that he do nothing
	 to warn his half-brother or stave
	 off the arrest, actions that might
	 be exposed and used against
	 them in the 1984 re-election
	 campaign or later.

	  " 'I don't think she ever knew
	 how much coke Bill had snorted
	 with Roger or how many girls
	 they'd done together, said one
	 state policeman, 'but we knew
	 she'd tell him to feed ole Roger
	 to the feds for the sake of his
	 career, and that's what he ended
	 up doing.' "

>>>>>>>> Mrs. Clinton and Vincent W. Foster Jr.:

	 "There would be sev-
	 eral sources--including a for-
	 mer U.S. attorney, sometime
	 aides, a number of lawyers, so-
	 cial friends, and many of the
	 same troopers who testified
	 about the governor's illicit acts
	 --who described the first lady's
	 affair, dating to the mid-1980s,
	 with Rose partner Vince Foster.

	  "A relationship evident in the
	 semi-private kisses and furtive
	 squeezes at parties and dinners
	 described by the security
	 guards, it was also an intimate
	 professional bond between two I
	 attorneys who worked together e
	 on some of their firm's most sen- 4
	 sitive cases....

	  "Foster was known to treat ~I
	 her with the dignity, respect, e
	 and abiding love she was miss-
	 ing in her marriage. 'He adored
	 her,' said a fellow lawyer. Under
	 other circumstances, it might
	 have been one of those relation-
	 ships that remained private and
	 without any relevance to the
	 Clinton presidency. What set it
	 apart was that, once in the White
	 House, the Clintons would in-
	 stall the first lady's confidant in
	 one of the nation's most Sensi-
	 tive positions as deputy counsel
	 to the president, where he would
	 handle controversial matters
	 stemming from their Arkansas
	 past as well as highly classified
	 presidential affairs."



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	 THE MENA SERIES: BARRY SEAL ASSOCIATE SPEAKS OUT
   Part I. Did Barry Seal Fall Victim To A Government Set-up?

    William  Bottoms  is  one  of  the  few   associates  of  the
legendary  drug  smuggler  Barry Seal that is still alive. He has
now decided to come forward and tell his story. A story that goes
back  to 1962 when he first met Seal and Seal married his sister,
and intensifies in the 1980s when he and  Barry  Seal  went  into
"operation"  together.  Over  the  next several weeks, Bottoms is
going to give his perspective of the Mena  story,  a  perspective
that  in  some  instances leads him to different conclusions than
the conclusions reached by others who have spoken out on Mena.

    We start out this  week  with  an  intriguing  question  that
remains  unresolved  to  this day. Why did the U.S. government in
1972 intercept a load of plastic explosives  destined  for  anti-
Castro Cubans in Mexico, when a decade before it was the CIA that
funded these Cuban exiles in their failed Bay of Pigs invasion?

    Well, the pilot who was caught with  the  plastic  explosives
was   Barry  Seal,  and  William  Bottoms  offers  an  intriguing
explanation. At the time, Seal was a pilot for TWA. He had joined
the  TWA at twenty-six, one of the youngest pilots in the history
of the TWA. As an adventurer, however, he did  covert  operations
on the side.

    In 1972, Seal was arrested by Customs in New Orleans. His DC6
was  loaded  with seven tons of plastic explosives. "He was hired
by Carlos Marcello," says Bottoms. Marcello was  a  renowned  New
Orleans  Mob  Boss  who  had been under official investigation in
connection with the assassination of  John  F.  Kennedy.  Bottoms
claims  that  Seal  was set up by the government:  "Barry said it
was because  Castro  had  one  of  our  hijacked  airliners,  the
hijackers,  and  the  ransom.   So,  the government set the whole
thing up from beginning to end.  It was a ploy to get  Castro  to
think  we were interdicting in his favor so he would give America
the airliner back."

    Seal was charged with conspiracy, but the judge threw out the
case  when  the  government wanted to protect the identity of its
informant.

    A law enforcement source familiar with the case confirms that
it  was  Marcello's  deal.  "Charges  were  dropped  because they
couldn't go to court without burning their snitch."

    Even though the case was dismissed, the publicity  cost  Seal
his  job  with  TWA.  "Seal  was  bitter  because  he felt he was
entrapped besides working for a worthy cause," says  Bottoms.  It
was  then  Seal  started  full  time  on  his  clandestine  work,
officially using the title of "airline broker."

[Next Week: after Seal was released from Honduran prison where he
served  eight  months  on  a minor weapons charge, he and William
Bottoms, finishing six years of active duty as a Navy pilot, went
into "operations" together.]

  Published in the Oct. 28, 1996 Issue of The Washington Weekly
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	       Part II: The "Operation"

The following are excerpts of an interview with William  Bottoms,
an  associate  and brother-in-law of the late drug smuggler Barry
Seal:

MR. LEE: When Barry Seal was released from a Honduran  prison  in
1980,  you  started  working  together.  Can you tell some of the
details? Which aircraft did you use, where were they  based,  and
which landing strips did you use?

MR. BOTTOMS: I was released from active duty in  June  1980.   In
August  of  1980,  Barry  Seal  was  released  from  prison after
spending eight months in a Honduras  jail.   We  began  operating
together.  We were together until his murder in Baton Rouge.

After we connected, Barry and I  went  on  our  first  three  air
smuggling flights together.  I performed the rest of the flights.
Barry stayed in Baton Rouge maintaining periodic HF radio  checks
with  me,  and  to receive and send on the cocaine when I arrived
with it.

It was in 1981, and the first three quarters of 1982,  that  most
of  the  smuggling  activity  took  place.  We used a Beech 18, a
Piper Seneca and very quickly upgraded  to  a  new  Seneca  (used
once),  and  just  as  quick  to  a  Piper Panther Navajo.  Barry
purchased another Panther Navajo soon after.  Initially  we  used
various  landing  sites in Louisiana to off load the merchandise.
These were a cane  field  near  White  Castle,  Opelousas,  Hanks
Field, and New Roads.

Soon we were exclusively using airdrops and once empty the  plane
would be returned to various places.

A friend of Barry's set him up in early 1981 by allowing  him  to
sell  Quaaludes  in  Florida  to a federal undercover agent named
Beasley (Operation Screamer).   Operation  Screamer  didn't  turn
over any indictments until early 1983.  Between that time is when
Barry  brought  all  of  his  loads  into  Louisiana.   Once  the
Operation Screamer indictments came out, Barry started moving his
aircraft up to Mena, because Louisiana  started  heating  up  for
him.   Nothing of any real significance happened at Mena Airport.
Barry spent most of 1983 and early 1984 with lawyers  because  of
the Florida indictments.

By mid 1984 he was working as a informant.  He  flew  a  Lockheed
Lodestar to Colombia, a Cessna back as far as Nicaragua before an
engine was damaged by anti-aircraft fire, the C123 "fat lady"  to
Nicaragua and back twice, each for the DEA.

Barry orchestrated, and I flew the flight to Bolivia for the  DEA
that  was  started in late 1984 and netted Norman Saunders, Prime
Minister of Turks and Caicos. Barry was  busy  with  lawyers  and
trials  after  the Saunders case, until the time of his murder in
Baton Rouge February 19, 1986.

MR. LEE: The air strip in Nella, about 10 miles  north  of  Mena,
was registered in your name. What was the strip used for?

MR. BOTTOMS: The strip was never registered  in  my  name.   Fred
Hampton  owned  the  property.   During my many visits to Mena we
became friends somewhat. We had  similar  outdoor  interests  and
were  close  to  the  same  age.   He  told  me  about Nella, how
beautiful it was nestled in the Ozarks and took me there.  It was
unbelievably  beautiful.   The  ideal  retreat.  I  was  strictly
interested in the property as a personal getaway.

We decided to become partners and  we  built  the  small  landing
strip  on  the  property.  Because of trees on one end, you would
have to take off away from  the  trees  and  up  the  side  of  a
mountain,  and  land  towards  them.   The  landing strip was not
suitable for anything but a short field capable small airplane.

I later purchased all of the property from Hampton, but he  never
got around to transferring the title to me. Barry knew nothing of
this deal.  Nella was never used for any clandestine activity  by
Barry or myself.

MR. LEE: Did you ever meet Richard Brenneke,  Donald  Gregg,  Dan
Lasater, or Oliver North?

MR. BOTTOMS: No.

[Next week: The criminal investigation by Russell Welch  led  him
to  different  conclusions  about  what  took  place  at Mena and
Nella.]

  Published in the  Nov. 4, 1996 Issue of The Washington Weekly
Copyright (c) 1996 The Washington Weekly (http://www.federal.com)




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Subject: THE MENA SERIES: BARRY SEAL ASSOCIATE SPEAKS OUT

	THE MENA SERIES: BARRY SEAL ASSOCIATE SPEAKS OUT
	  Part III. The Investigation By Russell Welch

    Barry Seal associate William Bottoms claimed in an  interview
published  here  last week that "Nothing of any real significance
happened at Mena Airport," and that "Nella was never used for any
clandestine activity by Barry or myself."

    Documents reveal, however, that there  were  activities  that
Bottoms appears to have been unaware of.

    Mena investigator Russell Welch of the Arkansas State  Police
has a secret FBI telex dated August 1987 that informs him that "a
CIA or DEA operation is taking  place  at  Mena  airport."  Welch
further  states  that "There was a covert operation here at Mena.
It did use the  strip  at  Nella  for  a  period  of  time.   The
operation  that  I'm  referring to didn't start until around late
1986 or 1987. Although it took place at Nella there was no  other
connection  to  Barry's name, until Terry Reed came along." Barry
Seal was killed in 1986.

    As for the amounts of cocaine smuggled into Arkansas by Seal,
Welch  found  a  period  of time from April 12, 1982 to March 24,
1984 where Barry Seal was running his  own  smuggling  operation,
smuggling  for  himself and the people that were working for him.
They were bringing a planeload of cocaine for the  Medellin  drug
cartel,  250  - 350 kilos of cocaine, into Arkansas approximately
every other week.

    A  declassified  summary  of  the   CIA   inspector   General
investigation  of  Mena  was  released Friday. It, too, confirmed
clandestine  activities  at  Mena.  One  was  a  joint   training
operation  at  the  airport  between  the CIA and another federal
agency. In addition, the CIA contracted with  businesses  at  the
airport   "to   perform   routine  aviation-related  services  on
equipment owned by the CIA."

    The summary also confirms that L.D. Brown was a candidate for
CIA  employment in 1984. It said the agency decided that December
not to hire him. Brown has claimed that on two occasions, while a
candidate  for  CIA employment, he flew guns and drugs with Barry
Seal.

    Barry Seal was also involved in a top  secret  NSA  operation
based at Mena.  Author R. Emmett Tyrrell has obtained documentary
evidence of operation "RAPPORT" that used  Seal  and  his  C-123K
"fat  lady" to spy on the Sandinistas.  The NSA installed nuclear
radiation detectors in the "fat lady" that would allow  detection
of  Soviet-made  nuclear  missiles in Nicaragua as Seal flew over
the country. That gave Seal status as a CIA  asset,  and  Customs
and  the  Federal  Aviation  Administration (FAA) allowed Seal to
leave and enter the country without inspection.

    A July 1995 editorial in the  Wall  Street  Journals  reveals
even more clandestine activities at Mena. Citing reliable sources
in the intelligence community, the editorial says that an  AWACs-
Patriot  system  was  tested  there,  CIA  contract  planes  were
repainted, and the area was included in a counterterror  exercise
run out of the nearby Fort Chafee.

  Published in the Nov. 11, 1996 Issue of The Washington Weekly
Copyright (c) 1996 The Washington Weekly (http://www.federal.com)





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Date: Sun, 10 Nov 96 20:38:35 EST
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Subject: SCOPE OF LEACH INVESTIGATION REVEALED

	     SCOPE OF LEACH INVESTIGATION REVEALED

    A letter sent by House Banking Committee Chairman James Leach
to  NSA  director  John  McConnell in July of last year shows the
scope of the issues that Leach has been investigating vis  a  vis
Mena and Systematics Inc.

    The internal NSA emails dealing with the questions raised  by
Leach  have key passages blacked out and shed little light on the
issues. There is no record of  the  briefing  given  by  the  NSA
Inspector  General to James Leach.  So we have, as yet, no way of
knowing the answers that Leach received to his questions.

    The letter by Leach is reproduced below:

			 July 11, 1995

Vice Admiral John McConnell, USN
Director
National Security Agency
FT. George Meade, MD 20755

Dear Admiral McConnell:

I am writing to seek your agency's help in verifying or laying to
rest various allegations of money laundering in Arkansas in the
late 1980s. For that purpose, I would request a briefing from
NSA's Inspector General on Friday, July 14 before 1:00 p.m.; if
that is not possible, sometime on Monday, July 17, would also be
convenient.

The reports I have in mind have appeared in the general press
and, sometimes in sensational form, in more narrow-gauged out-
lets, including the Internet. They speak of secret foreign bank
accounts held by prominent people in Arkansas, special software
to monitor bank transfers, an Arkansas-centered network of banks
formed to launder money, and similar tales. I would like to
determine whether there is any substance at all to these stories.

Specifically, I would like your Inspector General to tell me
whether the Agency:

(1) knows of any secret bank accounts held by U.S. citizens
domiciled in Arkansas at any time between 1988 and now;

(2) is aware, directly or indirectly, of any efforts by computer
hackers, U.S.-government related or otherwise, to penetrate banks
for the purpose of monitoring accounts and transactions;

(3) knows of or has participated, directly of indirectly, in
efforts to sell software--notably versions of a program in use at
the Justice Department called PROMIS--or clandestinely produced
devices to foreign banks for the purpose of collecting economic
intelligence and information about illicit money transfers;

(4) is cognizant of any attempts by Systematics Inc, an Arkansas-
based electronic data processor that is now a division of All-
tell, to monitor or engage in the laundering of drug money or
proceeds of other illegal activities, notably those conducted
through Mena, Arkansas;

(5) can provide information about Charles Hayes, a businessman in
Nancy, Kentucky, who claims to have been a CIA operative in Latin
and Central America, among other places;

(6) knew of or was involved in, directly or indirectly, any
covert activities by the U.S. government or any private parties
(the so-called "private benefactors") in or around Mena in the
late 1980s;

(7) had any contractual or other relationship with the late Adler
Barriman "Barry" Seal in the 1980s or knew about his activities
in connection with Mena.

I would appreciate your help in shedding light on these matters.

				       Sincerely,

				       James A. Leach
				       Chairman

  Published in the Nov. 11, 1996 Issue of The Washington Weekly
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How does a regexp, identifying the beginning of a paragraph, look like.
The beginning of a line is a "^" and the beginning of a buffer is a
"\'", but what does the beginning of a paragraph look like?

Thanks
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Erik Naggum wrote:
>
> * Karl Storck
> | How does a regexp, identifying the beginning of a paragraph, look like.
> | The beginning of a line is a "^" and the beginning of a buffer is a "\'",
> | but what does the beginning of a paragraph look like?
>
> the value of `paragraph-start' holds the regexp that matches paragraph
> starts.  similarly for `paragraph-separate'.  since "paragraph" is a
> higher-level concept than "line" or "buffer", there is no single regexp
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Subject: Missouri: Lead Mines in National Forest Endanger Public Health
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A Private New York Holding company plans to profit from the Increased
Poisoning of Missouri's children

Continuing revelations from the state health department show that a new
lead mining proposal, which threatens the Lower Ozarks area of the Mark
Twain National Forest, also threatens the lives of area children for
generations to come. The fact that most of the nation's lead is mined
in Missouri by the Doe Run company, based in St. Louis and owned by
Renco Inc. of New York, gives us a particular opportunity to stop the
poisoning.

Opportunities to get involved exist for everyone as a groundswell of
local citizen groups across the state organize to oppose the new
mining. To find out more, call the Heartwood coalition coordinating
group, Voices from the Forest, at (573) 443-6832.

The state health department reported in August that 1/6 of
randomly-selected children, age six months to six years, living in the
Old Lead Belt in St. Francois County had high blood lead levels. In
contrast, only 3% of the children living 70 miles away from the
lead-mining area, in Salem, had high lead levels.

A federal-state assessment revealed, according to a Post-Dispatch
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magazine regarding the Paula Jones case is available online at
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Dave's Lines of the Week (Letterman)

Monday, November 4 - Thursday, November 7

"Good news and bad news for Bob Dole.  Of course, the bad news for
Bob Dole -- he lost the election...The good news is he's going to
have a child with his nurse at the retirement home."

"President Clinton, though, had 5,000 people at his victory party.
Five thousand people!  And that was just the catering staff."

"We have no details now about the Inaugural Ball.  For example, we
don't know exactly where it will be, we don't know exactly what the
entertainment will be and we don't know who Clinton will be taking as
a date."

"Well, ladies and gentlemen, it's the day after the Presidential
election.  How many of you watched the coverage last night on
television?  Talk about suspense!  Honest to God, I was glued to the
television set until, oh, 7:15-7:30."

"I didn't get to see the rest of the coverage -- help me out here.
Last night, did they every find the guy who voted for Dole?"

"It was a quiet night at Dole headquarters.  It was Dole and a few
volunteers and the fat lady singing."

"Earlier today, President Clinton left Arkansas -- you know he had
been celebrating down in Arkansas -- and flew to Washington.  It was
an emergency.  Yeah, it was an emergency -- Clinton had eaten
everything in Arkansas."

"Clinton's goal for the second term -- pretty much like every
American.  You know, watch his weight, try to stay out of jail."

"You've got to give Clinton credit.  He's not resting on his laurels.
Earlier today, Clinton promised that in his second term, he will be
named in twice as many lawsuits."

"Both candidates are taking the last couple of days of the campaign
very, very seriously.  Dole, in the last 72 hours, has hardly slept
and Clinton has hardly slept around."

"At the O.J. Simpson civil trial, an 18-year-old court intern claims
that O.J. Simpson was bothering her.  Sexually harassing her, you
know what I mean?  And it's interesting, O.J. said that he was just
flirting with the girl.  He says he flirts with everybody and nobody
has ever complained before.  Oh sure, if you don't count those 911
tapes."

"As you know over the weekend, they held the annual New York City
Marathon and our congratulations to Giacomo Leone from Italy who won
the race this year...He covered the distance of 26 miles in two hours
and 19 minutes and won, for his efforts, $30,000.  And,
coincidentally, that's approximately what it would have cost him if
he'd taken a cab."

"This is the first time in 15 years I was unable to finish the
Marathon.  I'll tell you what happened -- I was watching it on
television and I got up to get some more root beer and I twisted my
ankle."

"There's an article coming out of England that Michael Jackson has
paid a woman to be artificially inseminated so that he can have a
child.  This man, this Michael Jackson is amazing.   Think about
this: he was married for two years, is now expecting a child, and
he's still a virgin."

OPENING REMARKS FROM THE "LATE SHOW with DAVID LETTERMAN's 'FRIDAY
NIGHTS ON THE ROAD'" - Washington, D.C., November 8

"Before we kick off the big show tonight, let me just say one thing
to President Clinton.  Mr. Clinton, David Brinkley is the David who
thinks you're boring.  I'm the Dave who thinks you're fat."

"You've got to give President Clinton a lot of credit.  I mean, this
man, wasting no time, today holding a press conference announcing
that he's already shaken up his administration for his second term.
Today he announced that Christine Lahti, fine actress, will be
replacing Hillary."

"Here's what I did this afternoon.  Since it was such a lovely day
here in Washington, I went over to the Smithsonian Institute.  I saw
Lindbergh's plane, I saw the Apollo 8 spacecraft, I saw J.Edgar
Hoover's strapless cocktail dress."

"Then, I went over to the Lincoln Memorial, and sitting on Abe's lap
was Dan Quayle.  He was telling the President what he wanted for
Christmas."

"You know, I don't care how nice a city is.  Every city has its
drawbacks.  For example, in New York City, your neighbor to the
north, we have crime, we have violence and we have garbage.  Here in
Washington, D.C. -- Newt Gingrich."

"The most exciting thing that's happened to me so far since I've been
in Washington, D.C. -- last night I met President Clinton...Here's
the best part -- it was not planned.  It was a chance meeting.  I'm
staying at the Marriott and in the middle of the night, he
accidentally knocks on my door!"


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Date:     Wed Nov 13, 1996  6:04 pm  CST
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is up to the reader to form her/his own judgements as to the
following.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 06:56:22 -0500
From: Geoffrey Stewart Nimmo 
Subject: The Mena Railroad Track Murders Corroborated

Subject: ciadrugs]  JEAN DUFFEY interviewed by Randall Terry
Date: Saturday, November 09, 1996 6:15 PM

JEAN DUFFEY interviewed by Randall Terry
May 1, 1996

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Jean Duffey headed a drug task force for the law enforcement
community in Arkansas. Duffey and three other law enforcement agents
have come forward in a new video called "Obstruction of Justice: The
Mena Connection." The video deals with the murders of two boys and
their connection with drug money. All four law enforcement agents
came from different agencies. All of them met with stonewalling and
opposition from highly placed officials.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Randall Terry: As many as nine people who were potential witnesses in
this case have been murdered already. If you could say anything you
wanted for the next ten or fifteen minutes, what would you say?

Jean Duffey: I would like for people to wake up and understand the
massive amount of drugs that have been transported into the United
States and that the war on drugs is a myth. That our government is
very well aware, and in some cases is a participant in the drug
smuggling. I believe that is incredible for people to understand as
it would have been for me had I not been involved in it and
[understood] how it happened and why it happened. I would like for
people to buy our video, "Obstruction of Justice."

Randall Terry: Why?

Jean Duffey: It will begin to explain all of the connections of drug
smuggling and how it affects people's lives. It will help people to
understand how it is allowed to continue, and why it is allowed to
continue. There will be a sequel to "Obstruction of Justice" that
will go more in depth into the actual drug-smuggling operation. But
our video explains very poignantly how it affected the life of an
American family. Linda and Larry Ives, the parents of Kevin Ives, who
was killed when he was 17-years-old because he stumbled upon a drug
drop. [There was also the death of his friend, Don Henry]. As if
their murders were not bad enough, they were murdered by law
enforcement officers who were part of the drug-smuggling operation.

Randall Terry: Let's just stop right here.

Jean Duffey: All right.

Randall Terry: I watched this video yesterday and when I was done, I
took my entire staff up after yesterday's show and told them "you all
have to watch this." They all went home late for dinner. I don't
usually react to things this bad[ly]. The clear implication of the
video is that Dan Harmon and other law enforcement agents murdered
these boys.

Jean Duffey: Well, that's absolutely correct.

Randall Terry: You're not a crackpot - you're involved in law
enforcement. There are other law enforcement [officers] in the film,
all risking life and limb and future careers to say things against
some very powerful people. You really believe that these boys were
murdered by law enforcement agents?

Jean Duffey: I don't think there's any doubt about it. And I believe
the law enforcement agents were connected to some very high political
people because they have never been brought to justice and I don't
think they ever will be. I think they are protected to avoid exposing
the connection.

Randall Terry: To who? To higher-ups?

Jean Duffey: Yes, absolutely to higher-ups.

Randall Terry: How high?

Jean Duffey: Well, I know that there were CIA people involved in this
drug-smuggling operation, that's pretty much undisputed. I can't
really say whether the CIA people were acting officially or whether
they were rogue operators, acting outside their official capacity and
taking advantage of an opportunity to make private profits off of
this drug-smuggling operation. Obviously they were connected to very
high-up people. The U.S attorney who first shut down a federal
investigation was appointed by a Republican president - he was
appointed by President Bush and I don't believe he had any direct
connection with any of this, but he certainly took orders from
someone to close down that investigation.

Randall Terry: This all sounds so fantastic. How unbelievable. I mean
how the average American just cannot grasp that state officials in
Arkansas, or federal officials were somehow even remotely connected
with drug-smuggling, and then to say that some of the lower officials
actually murdered these boys - I've got to stop myself. I'm a
Christian and I'm a Calvinist and I believe in the wickedness of
man's heart, so it should not surprise me that wicked men can do
wicked things. Do you believe that Dan Harmon was involved with these
murders?

Jean Duffey: I don't think that there is any doubt that he was.

Randall Terry: Explain to the listeners who Dan Harmon was at the
time and who he is now.

Jean Duffey: At the time he was a person who was in and out of
politics in Saline County. He had been a judge. He had been a
prosecutor and, at the time the boys were murdered, he was in private
practice. After they were murdered, he approached the parents of the
two boys and [offered] his services to find out who had murdered the
two boys. And he was subsequently appointed to be special prosecutor
to head a county grand jury. Now for years the parents thought that
Dan Harmon was trying to solve their murders, but later found out
that he had very wisely put himself into a position of not only
orchestrating the coverup, but being in the position of controlling
the information that came in and the information that went out.

Randall Terry: Well, it's worse than that. People who came forward
and said that they had information on these murders ended up getting
murdered, themselves.

Jean Duffey: There have been several murders of potential witnesses.
Anyone who could have solved this murder many years ago has been
systematically eliminated.

Randall Terry: What did these boys see that was so critical that they
were murdered that night - that the third boy who was with them, and
then escaped - who ran away, was tracked down and murdered a year
later - what was so critical to this whole process that all these
people had to be killed? It's just - it sounds crazy!

Jean Duffey: It really does. I've been called crazy before - that's
for sure.

Randall Terry: Before you answer the question, I just want to say in
your defense ... these people are just doing their duty as law
enforcement agents and they stumbled into this black, bloodstained
hole involving the murder of these two boys. So go ahead Jean, if you
could answer my question.

Jean Duffey: I will - what you said brought up a point I would like
to make. When I was investigating this, I was crucified in the media
by public officials who were involved in this, and I was labeled a
whacko, a fruitcake, a nut case. In the U.S. attorney's office there
were people who were supposed to be helping in this investigation who
turned their backs on any of the information that my drug task force
took in, because we had been so discredited. When this video came
out, one of the people [who had been] in the U.S. Attorney's office
back then saw the video, took it to work nd asked every person in the
U.S. Attorney's office to sit down and watch [it]. He said, "this
will change your mind about what we thought about Jean Duffey back in
1990."

Randall Terry: I am going to take a break and when we come back you
can ask Jean Duffey why it was necessary that these two boys be
murdered, and subsequently nine other witnesses were murdered....

Randall Terry: Before we took the break, Jean, I asked what these
boys saw that caused not only them, but several other potential
witnesses to their murder to be murdered.

Jean Duffey: Well, it's really quite simple. They stumbled upon a
drug drop from an airplane that was part of the major drug-smuggling
operation out on Mena, Arkansas.

Randall Terry: But, drug drops happen every day and there aren't 11
people murdered as a result.

Jean Duffey: This drug-smuggling operation had been set up in Mena by
Barry Seal and was part of a CIA covert operation. To expose the
murders would have exposed some very high[ly placed] political people
- in fact I believe if it's ever solved completely it's going to
expose a lot of Democrats and Republicans alike. And it's my personal
opinion that's why it is not going to be investigated thoroughly by
either party. Both parties stand to lose from exposure of this
drug-smuggling operation.

Randall Terry: Have you heard of Terry Reed's book, "Compromised?"

Jean Duffey: Yes, I have. I've read it.

Randall Terry: Do you think it's credible?

Jean Duffey: Ah - I think without really knowing...

Randall Terry: Terry was a co-pilot with Barry Seal, and Barry Seal
was the one who was gunned down - he was murdered a little more than
10 years ago. The book "Compromised" basically says the same thing
you guys are saying, only that Terry Reed was an insider.

Jean Duffey: Yes, absolutely. I try not to report anything that I
don't really know first hand. But reading his book certainly helped
me to understand how the Mena operation was set up. And nothing in
his book is inconsistent with what I know first-hand from what my
task force developed.

Randall Terry: Tell us some of the things. You had several informants
working for you. Tell us some of the things your informants
uncovered.

Jean Duffey: They immediately linked drug traffic at the local level
to local political people - local public officials. And because of
that we routed-out information to a federal U.S. Assistant Attorney,
who was a good guy.

Randall Terry: You say you found local political figures involved.
And your informants were credible? They had concrete evidence?

Jean Duffey: Oh yeah. When one informant tells you something
independently of one or two or three other informants, and they're
all giving exactly the same information...

Randall Terry: Do they know that the other informants exist?

Jean Duffey: No.

Randall Terry: These are all separate?

Jean Duffey: They would be independent. It would be foolish to just
listen to one informant and try to build a case based on what that
one informant said. But the informants we used had been tested and
proven. Also we had informants and witnesses who passed polygraph
tests. So there are several different ways to determine the
credibility of an informant or a witness and one is corroborating
testimony.

Randall Terry: So you gave this testimony to federal law enforcement
agents and thought that you were going to get justice at that
point.And you were told by the federal prosecutor that they were
going to indict some of these local political figures?

Jean Duffey: Oh, I was absolutely assured that there would be
indictments and prosecutions of key public officials and in fact the
same public officials who were conducting the media smear campaign
against me at the time. This had been going on for several months,
but the U.S. Attorney that was in charge of the federal grand jury
investigation said "just hang on, because any day now..." I heard
this week after week, and the weeks turned into months. Then he said
I'm ready to have the grand jury indict and I'm ready to prosecute
these same people, and as soon as that happens then everyone will
understand the smear campaign and why they tried to discredit me
professionally.

Randall Terry: We have about a minute left. You can say anything you
want. This is Jean Duffey who headed up a drug task force. How many
investigators did you have working for you?

Jean Duffey: I had seven undercover officers.

Randall Terry: And five of them resigned in protest over the way you
were treated.

Jean Duffey: They did.

Randall Terry: That's unbelievable. You have the last minute to tell
the listeners anything you want.

Jean Duffey: [Encourages listeners to order the video "Obstruction of
Justice" which will be used to fund a civil action].

Randall Terry: I want to commend you again for putting your life on
the line by stepping forward like this. Obviously some very powerful
people have already murdered nearly a dozen people in connection with
the drug smuggling there, starting with the two young boys. Certainly
other law enforcement officials have been threatened. Were you
threatened at all?

Jean Duffey: There was a $50,000 price on my head back in 1990, when
I left the jurisdiction, and I was actually in hiding for nine
months.

Randall Terry: They put a $50,000 hit fee on you?

Jean Duffey: That was the information my parents were given, and they
were certainly very fearful. But once I left the jurisdiction and
stopped doing the investigation they left me alone. They stopped the
smear campaign. I didn't feel like anyone was looking for me. What
they wanted me to do was just shut up and go away. When I did that
they didn't have a problem. When I got involved again in 1994, at the
request of the FBI, the FBI agent I was working with got the
information that Harmon was looking to have my body laid out on the
railroad track and run over. The agent was pretty fearful that that
was a direct threat, but I was really not very intimidated by that.

Randall Terry: Ben Harmon, folks, is the fellow who eyewitnesses said
was seen with the boys on the tracks the night they were murdered.
And he is a prosecutor there.

Jean Duffey: He is the prosecuting attorney there and has been since
1991.

Randall Terry: If the allegations that our friend Jean Duffey has
been telling us are true, then he is a monster. Jean, thank you very
much for taking the time,and we applaud your courage...We hope that
justice is done for these boys, and that all of the political power
players who are involved in this coverup are exposed.

Jean Duffey: Thank you very much for your concern.


=================================

CN: The video, "Obstruction of Justice," is available from
Citizens for Honest Government, 1-800-251-8089. *caveat emptor*





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Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 21:31:05 -0500
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Subject: SAFAN NO. 133. CIA admits 2-week training 'exercise' at Mena (fwd)

		     STOP ALL FEDERAL ABUSES NOW!
	 S.A.F.A.N. Internet Newsletter, No. 133, November 15, 1996

CIA ADMITS 2-WEEK TRAINING EXERCISE AT MENA
by Kathy Kiely (Arkansas Democrat-Gazette Writer)

WASHINGTON -- In a report certain to rev up an already-active rumor
mill, the CIA acknowledged Friday that it has conducted operations
at Arkansas' Mena Airport.

The small airport in Polk County at the far western edge of the state
has long been the subject of speculation that it was a center of money
laundering, drug smuggling and gunrunning --and that government
officials knew about it.

Former State Trooper L.D. Brown has said that while he was under
review for possible employment with the CIA in 1984, he took two
airplane rides from Mena to Honduras. There, Brown said, M-16 rifles
were distributed to members of the Nicaraguan Contras -- anti-
communist guerrillas the Reagan administration was supporting -- in exchange
for cocaine.

In a declassified summary of a report commissioned by House Banking Committee
Chairman Jim Leach, R-Iowa, the CIA inspector general's
office insisted it has come up with no evidence that the agency was
involved in "money laundering, narcotics trafficking, arms smuggling
or other illegal activities at or around Mena."

But the report, which involved a review of about 40,000  pages of
materials and interviews with more than 40 people, acknowledged
that the CIA did run "a joint training operation with another federal
agency at Mena Intermountain Airport."

The report described it only as a "two week exercise" and  said that
the agency's involvement had been classified and never publicly
disclosed.

One source familiar with various Mena investigations remarked that
at the very least, the inspector general's report tends to lend credence
to the suspicion that the airport was used as a center for clandestine
operations to supply the Contras.

The inspector general's office also acknowledged that the CIA used
Mena for "routine aviation-related services" on equipment the agency owned.
The report said that the companies and employees who did
the work did not know their client was the CIA.

A spokesman for the agency said he could not elaborate on the
report's revelations.

The report confirms that Brown was a candidate for CIA employment
in 1984. It said the agency decided that December not to hire him.

CIA personnel also had "limited contact" with Adler Berriman "Barry"
Seal, a drug-trafficker and federal informant who Brown said took
him along on the rides to Honduras. According to the inspector
general's report, the contact came during a federal Drug Enforce-
ment Administration sting operation in which Seal flew the airplane.

The report said the CIA provided "technical support" in the form of
cameras mounted into Seal's plane. Agents discussed with Seal
where to place the cameras and how to operate them, but that was
the extent of the CIA's contact with the drug runner, later shot dead
in Baton Rouge, La., the inspector general's office concluded.

The report added there is "no evidence" that the CIA knew Seal's
"true identity" at the time of the operation. A source close to the CIA's
internal investigation said the agency did not even know his name
when its personnel were dealing with him on the drug sting.

Although the report is clearly meant to quell rumors of a conspiracy
among members of the Reagan administration and then-Arkansas
Gov. Bill Clinton to cover up a Mena-based guns-for-drugs operation,
it seems likely to add more fuel to the fire.

Leach, who requested the CIA's report, refused to comment on it.
But in a statement, the congressman said his committee is continuing
its own investigation of what happened at the Arkansas airport.
Leach hopes to issue a report by the end of the year.

This article was published on Saturday, November 9, 1996

Copyright 1996, Little Rock Newspapers, Inc. All rights reserved.

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