From: kalliste@earthlink.net Reply-To: SNETNEWS@XBN.SHORE.NET Subject: Angel of Death Slams Justice Dept in Inslaw Case Date: Tue, 09 Apr 96 01:29:20 -0700 Organization: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Angel of Death Gives Deposition to Justice Department in Inslaw Case by J. Orlin Grabbe On April 2, 1996, Charles S. Hayes--retired CIA operative, Air Force Colonel, and Kentucky salvage dealer--was deposed by the U.S. Department of Justice with respect to the Inslaw case [1]. The attorney for the Department of Justice, Beth Cook, seemed ill-prepared for what turned out to be a brutal assault on the integrity of the Justice Department itself, which Hayes accused of lying, cheating, and stealing. Hayes has recently acquired the Internet label of AOD ("Angel of Death" or "Angel of Doom") due to his efforts in encouraging the early retirement of corrupt politicians. "Do you know the Angel of Death?" Cook asked at one point. "I know him well," Hayes replied. Hayes has previously testified with respect to the Inslaw case, most notably before a Chicago grand jury in August 1992. Hayes' extensive testimony in that case was redacted under the National Security Act. The reasons for the redaction are not known, but apparently the grand jury's questions lead far afield from the principal topic of the Justice Department's apparently illegal sales of Inslaw's PROMIS software, and got into topics related to a tangled web of freelance arms dealers, drug runners, assassins, and government miscreants--whose murky and disparate interrelationships Hayes dubbed "the Octopus"--a term adopted and popularized by freelance journalist Danny Casolaro [2], who used Hayes as a frequent source of information. Hayes is said to have testified to detailed criminal violations of U.S. law by employees of the Department of Justice and other government agencies. Although Hayes will not discuss his grand jury testimony, other sources say that with respect to the Inslaw case, he testified to a meeting at which he was present in Brazil in the course of which Earl Brian called Attorney General Ed Meese (then in the United States) to get approval for the sale of PROMIS to the Brazilian government. Hayes is said to have backed up this assertion with an affidavit of Brazilian President Joao Figueiredo. Earl Brian, who is said to have marketed the PROMIS software to intelligence agencies around the world, is currently under indictment in California. The indictment concerns ten of millions of dollars of fraudulent lease transactions made while Earl Brian was Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer of three separate companies: Infotechology, Financial News Network (FNN), and United Press International (UPI). Early in the April 2, 1996, deposition, Justice Dept. attorney Beth Cook enjoined Hayes not to discuss his grand jury testimony. Subsequently, however, she began to question him about it. "Are you trying to entrap me?" Hayes asked. In the five-hour deposition, Hayes declared he was not present to help Inslaw, nor to help any government agency which was pirating software. "I'm here to help the people of the United States, whom I hold in esteem second only to my God" he said, and admonished Cook for what he called her lack of preparation, laziness, and wasting of taxpayers' money. He asked her if there was "some medical reason related to the time of month" for her "arrogance" and "obstinance". Hayes asked to be reimbursed for expenses related to the Justice Department subpoena. "We don't pay for subpoenas," Cook said, although in fact Federal law requires that expenses incurred in response to Federal subpoenas be reimbursed. Hayes pointed out that U.S. attorney Allen Lear had threatened to bring the FBI down on him on January 18, 1996. "I don't think that's legal," Hayes said. Anyway, "the FBI is not a chartered organization." (A check with the Library of Congress shows that, in fact, the FBI is not chartered. As such, laws related to, and convictions based on, "lying to the FBI" are apparently not valid, for no such chartered organization exists. The correctness of this argument, based on lack of charter, has been upheld in court cases involving the FBI in Massachusetts and Vermont. In addition, since the FBI, as a subdivision of the Department of Justice, is larger than the DoJ itself, Federal law bars FBI employees from receiving benefits. FBI agents who currently receive benefits are thus apparently in violation of Federal law, and could properly be required to return the money.) Hayes accused the DoJ of theft, saying they owed him money stemming from the largest gem seizure in U.S. history. (This appeared to be in reference to Indictment No. 86-44, U.S. vs. Antonio Carlos A Calvares, Mauricio Alcides Kruger, Mark Edward Lewis, Empresa Brasileira de Mineracao Imp e Exp. Ltda., filed Dec. 3, 1986, in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Kentucky. Charles Hayes personally delivered gems with an appraised value of $1.3 million. Customs Form 4655, Receipt for Seized Goods, dated July 25, 1985, for goods delivered by Charles Hayes is signed by Paul E. Carpenter. A similar receipt on July 28 is signed by George F. Fritz, Special Agent, witnessed by John D. Morton, RAC. The total seizure in the case involved more than $10 million in property. Under 18 USC 371, 542, 545, Hayes says, he is entitled to *mordi*--this being typically 25 percent of the total seizure, but a minimum of 10 percent.) More relevant to the Inslaw case, is the fact that in August 1990, Charles Hayes purchased used Justice Department computers and peripheral equipment (Lot 097 from the U.S. attorney's office in Lexington, Kentucky) for salvage for $45, and found on them copies of the pirated PROMIS software, as well as sealed grand jury indictments, and the names of Justice Dept. informants. The General Accounting Office found the Justice Department's sale of computers from which it had not erased sensitive information alarming, noting, "The error may have put some informants, witness and undercover agents in a 'life-and-death' situation." The Justice Department, having sold Hayes the equipment, subsequently seized it under warrant-- apparently to prevent its being used as evidence in the Inslaw case. But Hayes subsequently sued and got the equipment back, plus a undetermined settlement amount. (This case is discussed, albeit somewhat incompletely and inaccurately, in David Burnham, Above the Law: Secret Deals, Political Fixes, and Other Misadventures of the U.S. Department of Justice, Scribner, New York, 1996). In the April 2, 1996, deposition, Justice attorney Beth Cook seemed unaware that the Justice Department was under Congressional order from the Brookes Committee on the Judiciary (see [1]) to cease the sale of pirated software, not to mention hard drives containing confidential information. Similar restrictions have been placed on the IRS which, from its Martinsburg, West Virginia, central record depository, sold some 40,000 pounds of used computer disks containing the tax records of thousands of U.S. citizens--records of considerable interest to credit bureaus, organized crime, and foreign intelligence organizations. When asked how he felt just prior to the deposition, Hayes said, "Great, Kentucky's No. 1," referring to the previous night's championship win over Syracuse by the University of Kentucky basketball team. About the only thing that Hayes didn't accuse the DoJ of in his April 2 deposition was murder. Others are not so kind. In its Addendum to INSLAW's ANALYSIS and REBUTTAL of the BUA REPORT, dated February 14, 1994, Inslaw notes with respect to the Justice Department's Office of Special Investigations (OSI): "OSI's publicly- declared mission is to locate and deport Nazi war criminals. The Nazi war criminal program is, however, a front for the Justice Department's own covert intelligence service, according to disclosures recently made to INSLAW by several senior Justice Department career officials . . . According to written statements of which INSLAW has obtained copies, another undeclared mission of the Justice Department's covert agents was to insure that investigative journalist Danny Casolaro remained silent about the role of the Justice Department in the INSLAW scandal by murdering him in West Virginia in August 1991." Is the U.S. Department of Justice just another tenacle of the Octopus? If so, then what is the meaning of the phrase "with liberty and justice for all"? Footnotes [1] The Inslaw case was the subject of a Congressional report: *The Inslaw Affair: Investigative Report by the Committee on the Judiciary*, Jack Brookes, Chairman, House Report 102-856, U.S. Government Printing Office, Washington, 1992. See also: Mahar, Maggie, "Beneath Contemp: Did the Justice Dept. Deliberately Bankrupt INSLAW," Barron's National Business and Financial Weekly, March 21, 1988. Mahar, Maggie, "Rogue Justice: Who and What Were Behind the Vendette Against INSLAW?", Barron's National Business and Financial Weekly, April 4, 1988. Martin, Harry V., "Federal Corruption: Inslaw", The Napa Sentinel, a series of articles with various titles beginning March 15, 1991 and extending through March 19, 1993. Fricker, Richard L., "The Inslaw Octopus," Wired, #4, 1993. Bua, Nicolas J., Report of Special Counsel Nicholas J. Bua to the Attorney General of the United States Responding to the Allegations of INSLAW, Inc., March 1993 Inslaw, Inc., INSLAW's ANALYSIS and REBUTTAL of the BUA REPORT, July 1993. Inslaw, Inc., Addendum to INSLAW's ANALYSIS and REBUTTAL of the BUA REPORT, February 14, 1994 [2] In addition to the sources mentioned in footnote [1], the death of Danny Casolaro is explored in: Connolly, John, "Dead Right," Spy Magazine, January 1993. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMWYzlmX1Kn9BepeVAQE4wgP9E+2SBTtYTqOSiczST2RuvJxK9gMrBsVe ZkYyRTwQU+0AV0hJ9C8ZaYaKB0EuegXDb8wRagY/cQI3J951oXRe0trT/wUa4Jk6 ruwXw6Jh8GxuoBgV4tMb1xmS1szs4CGboxoCkIRL+QMelyGbD/FrAqP1cAKla8ao A7/n+zPQ+ZA= =NX0H -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 7 Num. 89 Chuck Hayes, whistleblower on insider skullduggery, misses his Value Jet flight, which then explodes in mid-air; Bob Dole startles us all by suddenly abandoning his powerful Senate position; and Bill Clinton is seen wiping a little tear from his eye: Hey. What's going on? From: revcoal@pcnet.com Reply-To: SNETNEWS@XBN.SHORE.NET Subject: [FreeSpeech-NewsWire] Angel of Death (fwd) Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 06:59:32 -0400 (EDT) Organization: Some Valuejet speculations, FWIW.... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 21:14:44 -0400 (EDT) From: 3rdi@pinn.net To: New Paradigms Discussion Subject: [FreeSpeech-NewsWire] Angel of Death (fwd) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 17:31:40 -0700 (MST) From: Free Speech To: fsnw-l@freespeechnews.com Subject: [FreeSpeech-NewsWire] Angel of Death Note: I do not necessarily endorse the conspiracy theory that will inevitably flow from the following. 1. AoD has more envelopes to deliver. 2. AoD misses ValueJet flight. 3. ValueJet now reported as having been crippled by an explosion. 4. Dole announces resignation from Senate. No doubt this comment will make some of you angry, but what the hey... You don't suppose someone slipped ole Bob a plain white envelope, do you? Since we know he can't beat Clinton, what more honorable way to fade into the sunset with his $7 million pension? Sorry, but the thought just won't go away. Cheers, Kit ------------------------------------- Libertarians do it freely, but not without charge. __________________________ kit@tcd.net 05/15/96 10:43:00 ------------------------------------------- From: Tenega@aol.com Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 09:53:06 -0400 To: capmicro@inxpress.net Subject: Re: AoD Hayes has been preoccupied with other matters lately, but says he is getting ready to deliver another batch of envelopes. Curiously, he and a colleague had tickets to fly out of Miami on that crashed ValueJet DC9. They got stuck in a restaurant too long and decided to take a later flight. Lucky for them. JN ------------------------------------------- From: Tenega@aol.com Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 11:43:29 -0400 To: capmicro@inxpress.net Subject: Re: AoD Hayes and colleague saw news reports of the ValuJet crash while sitting in the restaurant, drove to nearby AFB (Homestaed?), borrowed a Wigen (seaplane that Hayes is very family with flying) and took an airboat and other investigators to the crash scene that afternoon. From the beginning, they suspected an explosion. JN From: steve@linex2.linex.com Reply-To: SNETNEWS@XBN.SHORE.NET Subject: (Fwd) PIML 96051604 - Dole and Angel of Death Hayes Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 15:55:40 -0700 Organization: ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 13:51:12 -0500 To: emailwru@aol.com From: Bill Utterback Subject: PIML 96051604 - Dole and Angel of Death Hayes PIML 96051604 / Posted to Patriot Information Mailing List: [The following are unverified scraps of conversations picked up on the net. Read and ponder.] PIML Who is Hayes? He is supposedly either one of, or a contact person for, "The Fifth Column", a group of ex-CIA computer hackers who have become so torqued off about corruption in the government that they have started their own crusade against it. Supposedly they were able to acquire their own Cray Supercomputer (rumored to be the one that had been in Clark Air Force Base, it was air cooled) which they keep in a semi-tractor trailer and move around at random intervals. They have been getting the goods on corrupt politicians, and sending them envelopes containing all the information on their favorite Swiss bank accounts with transactions to and from. Included in the envelope is a little letter which requests that they resign or the information will be made public. Allegedly this is the reason there have been so many resignations from Congress lately. Now, the only part of this that I *can* verify is that there have been a lot of people resigning from Congress lately. I have seen Hayes get articles in some of the alternative media publications (I think Media Bypass may have done a story on him). If even part of all that is true, then there would be a lot of people who would have a lot of reasons to make sure that Mr. Hayes ceased his activities. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Some of my headers necessarily get somewhat cryptic due to space limitations. But it looks like the "Angel of Death" had tickets on the Valu-Jet plane that crashed out of Miami. Lucky for him he got delayed at a restaurant, huh? ------------------------------------------------------------------ An explosion in the cargo hold is now reported as a possible cause of the Valu-Jet crash. Note: I do not necessarily endorse the conspiracy theory that will inevitably flow from the following. 1. AoD has more envelopes to deliver. 2. AoD misses ValueJet flight. 3. ValueJet now reported as having been crippled by an explosion. 4. Dole announces resignation from Senate. ------------------------------------------------------------------ You don't suppose someone slipped ole Bob a plain white envelope, do you? Since we know he can't beat Clinton, what more honorable way to fade into the sunset with his $7 million pension? Sorry, but the thought just won't go away. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Hayes has been preoccupied with other matters lately, but says he is getting ready to deliver another batch of envelopes. Curiously, he and a colleague had tickets to fly out of Miami on that crashed ValueJet DC9. They got stuck in a restaurant too long and decided to take a later flight. Lucky for them. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Hayes and colleague saw news reports of the ValuJet crash while sitting in the restaurant, drove to nearby AFB (Homestaed?), borrowed a Wigen (seaplane that Hayes is very family with flying) and took an airboat and other investigators to the crash scene that afternoon. From the beginning, they suspected an explosion. * Patriot Information Mailing List * A service to help inform those who have an active interest in * returning our federal and state governments to limited, * constitutional government * Send messages for consideration and possible posting to * butterb@sagenet.net (Bill Utterback). * To subscribe or unsubscribe, send message with subject line * "subscribe patriot" or "unsubscribe patriot" * Forwarded messages sent on this mailing list are NOT verified. * See World's Smallest Political Quiz: www.self-gov.org/quiz.html * Libertarian is to LIBERTY as librarian is to library (DePena) * PIML grants permission to copy and repost this message * in its entirety with headers and trailers left intact. From: KALLISTE@delphi.com Reply-To: SNETNEWS@XBN.SHORE.NET Subject: Saint Colby & the Fifth Column Date: Mon, 20 May 1996 00:35:30 -0500 (EST) Organization: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Saint Colby and the Fifth Column by J. Orlin Grabbe When I first heard of William Colby's capsized canoe and disappearance near his place on the Wicomico River, I thought, "Well, maybe he won't be ragging on Jim Norman and me anymore." It was of course absurd that Norman and I had ever registered on Colby's radar screen in the first place. We were small fry: Norman was an unemployed journalist recently fired from Forbes Magazine, while I was rumored to be an ex-academic suffering a bad case of sunstroke. Norman and I had met through the dead mediation of Deputy White House Counsel Vince Foster. In my peregrinations as a banking consultant, I had come across the fact of the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA) spying on domestic banking transactions, had thought this a bit too Big Brotherly for my tastes, and had written an essay entitled The End of Ordinary Money about the uses of the monetary system for surveillance. Jim Norman, a Senior editor at Forbes, had written about the same NSA covert project, pointing out that Vince Foster was one of its overseers on behalf of a Little Rock software firm. Norman's research pointed to another explosive issue, namely that at the time of Foster's death both Foster and Hillary Clinton were under counterintelligence investigation for selling U.S. secrets to the Israelis. When Norman and I met in Reno, Nevada, I learned about one of his sources--the point man of a group called the Fifth Column. This person, Chuck Hayes, had a nice computer and could do some neat tricks with it-- things in some specific areas in which I was looking to educate myself. Hayes, meanwhile, had heard about my essay The End of Ordinary Money, which I had published on the Internet. Hayes, ex-CIA, got a copy from the CIA library, and liked it. Hayes and I hit it off right away, discovering an overlap of mutual interests. For several years the Fifth Column had searched computer data bases, including foreign bank accounts, looking for evidence of political bribery, kickbacks, and related subversion of the U.S. Constitution and political process. They had uncovered the financial information concerning the Foster/Clinton espionage. They had also transferred millions of dollars from politically-related illegal accounts at off-shore banks in the Cayman Islands, Switzerland, and elsewhere to a holding account at the U.S. Federal Reserve. Jim Norman wrote an article Fostergate for Forbes magazine about all this, an article which was cleared by the magazine's fact-checkers and lawyers, but at the last minute killed by Steve Forbes, through the urging of Caspar Weinberger, former Defense Secretary and Chairman of the Board of Forbes, Inc. I promised Norman that I would publicize his article through the Internet, and began a series on Vince Foster. The series also allowed me to raise the issues I had discussed in The End of Ordinary Money in a different way. The series generated a large Internet audience, including not only sympathizers to the cause of uncovering the cover-up, but also small coteries of others with counteragendas--including White House disinformation specialists, NSA email and usegroup monitors, and a myriad of others bent on establishing territorial rights to pieces of the story. One example of the latter was Daniel Brandt, a researcher who made his living off the CIA by selling a database of undigested articles mostly critical of it. Brandt had identified "information warfare" as a new ploy to justify old intelligence budgets, and hence reports of the Fifth Column by Norman and me had to be part of this campaign. After all, Norman referred to Fifth Column members as "CIA hackers", and they were reported to be up to something good, so the story must be propaganda since everyone knew that organization never did anything worthwhile. Brandt then identified the ultimate source of all this "Fifth Column" disinformation as probably the "well-connected" Jack Wheeler, "a right-wing adventurer" and contributor to Strategic Investment (SI), whom I apparently gullibly believed. Neither my friend Wheeler nor I could think of any good reason why I would be getting information about computers or banking from Wheeler, but this theory apparently made sense to Brandt. (For the record, Wheeler is not "right-wing", whatever that is supposed to mean. He is philosophically a libertarian, although he was once head of Youth for Reagan, a conservative organization. Wheeler had come to admire Reagan when he heard a speech in which Reagan said, "There is no Left or Right. There is only Up or Down: Up toward liberty or Down toward tyranny." As far as connections, I assume Wheeler has a few, stemming from the time his grandfather was chief bodyguard to four successive U.S. Presidents--from Teddy Roosevelt to Warren Harding.) But over at SI, Brandt's view was supported by William Colby, among others. I don't profess to know how much Colby was actually consulted with respect to SI editorial policy, but Colby was known to support the view that "Foster was killed but he wasn't a spy." (In Colby's own case, this view would be simply inverted: "Colby was a spy, but he wasn't killed.") Moreover, there was no Fifth Column and no high-level source would admit to having ever heard of this Chuck Hayes--hence Hayes was just another liar and huckster with a hidden agenda of his own. Colby, of course, knew very well who Hayes was, but had reasons to pretend otherwise. The most obvious one may relate to the circumstances by which Colby was removed as CIA director in 1977, an action in which Hayes was involved. But the more probable reason had to do with political turf, for it would become abundantly clear Colby was not in sympathy with the activities of the Fifth Column, as Colby himself had a little piece of the U. S. political process for sale. SI relentless pursued the notion that the death of Vince Foster was not a suicide. It specialized in highlighting the ease by which the gaping holes in the official story could be exposed. But ultimately it could provide its readers no explanation for the continuance of the cover-up, because it initially rejected the true explanation: namely that at the time of his death Vince Foster was under counterintelligence investigation for selling U.S. secrets to Israel. Thus SI was not in a position to explain to its readers why the Whitewater Committee under Alfonse D'Amato would supposedly accept the Foster suicide verdict at face value. The simple explanation was that doing so allowed D'Amato to take on Bill Clinton through the Whitewater investigation without at the same time having to antagonize his constituents by pursuing a line of inquiry destined to expose a can of worms relating to Israel. Yes, the Foster murder cover-up was an easy sham to see through. But no one wanted to bear the burden of doing so officially. There were other people, naturally, who had different reasons for going along with this scenario of events, unrelated to issues of national security. British journalist Ambrose Evans-Pritchard would dump on the story by ludicrously claiming that a Swiss account number found on a paper from the trunk of Barry Seal's car (an account that turned out to have Caspar Weinberger's name attached to it) was really an aircraft number--thus providing one more reason not to believe those Jim Norman articles about plundered Swiss accounts. But then Evans-Pritchard had carried the information around for some time, in blissful ignorance of what he had. After all, the record from Seal was a series of letters--so how it could be a Swiss "numbered" account? Meanwhile, William Colby told Washington journalist Sarah McClendon and others that Colin Powell would be the Republican nominee for President. But Colby wasn't able to subsequently explain Powell's failure to stand for office. After all, since the Fifth Column was a mythical entity, and the tales of political retirements inspired by financial disclosure was disinformation, then naturally the packets of financial information that were in fact delivered to Powell could have no bearing on Powell's political decisions. (The packets were said to have detailed millions of dollars of undeclared jewelry received from Kuwait, a stash of gold bars representing payoffs from military deals, and involvement in an arms network that does not hesitate to deal in proscribed products such as plutonium or to plunder U.S. military bases for goods in hot demand on the world market.) But after Colby's death, how quickly he became Saint Colby. Rumors ran amuck. Since his death followed shortly on the heels of Commerce Secretary Ron Brown's, surely a common hand was involved in both. Since Colby was the man who had revealed the CIA's family jewels in the 1977 congressional probe into intelligence activities, surely he was now dead for whistle-blowing of the same noble sort. Since Colby was an SI editor, and SI was a publication that relentlessly investigated the Vince Foster murder, surely Colby was a martyr to the cause of truth. Publications that had not heretofore acknowledged the existence of the Fifth Column now breathlessly reported that it "cannot be ruled out" that Colby was the head of it. The rush to deification was all quite nauseating. Yes, there was definitely a Ron Brown connection, for at the time of Brown's death Colby was working with Brown in representing the interests of Vietnam to the U.S. This hardly shores up the argument for sainthood. Even those convinced a change in U.S. policy toward Vietnam is mandatory might wonder about the propriety of an ex-head of U.S. intelligence representing the interests of a foreign power. This is reinforced by the Brown association, since Brown himself reportedly asked Vietnam to deposit $700,000 in a bank account for his personal use as the quid pro quo for considering their requests for reconciliation. Colby had made his reputation as head of the Vietnam-War era Phoenix project which had used computer data bases to track political "enemies" in Vietnam, many of whom were then targeted for assassination. The ruthlessness he showed there was not all that different from the ruthlessness he later showed toward ex-colleagues when it came time to cover his ass before congressional investigators. Colby's whistle- blowing was dictated by necessity, not choice. Colby may have simply fallen out of his canoe and drowned. But if he was given a little nudge, one suspects he was out of line with respect to his foreign entanglements. And one seriously doubts the hands involved were the same as those involved in the death of Ron Brown. Ron Brown was after all (as I reported in "Ron Brown's Loose Lips Seal His Fate") a threat to his business colleagues, and he met his fate as a result of a bomb triggered by a descending detonator aboard his plane. Information about the bomb on Brown's plane has already been released to British papers by MI6. Meanwhile, the damage control minions in the U.S. are desperately trying to see that the true story doesn't bleed back here overseas. Fat chance. Unlike the Fifth Column, which has used information to expose political corruption, Colby was seemingly indifferent to the corrupt uses of information itself. In any event he wasn't around when the Fifth Column delivered a packet of information to Senator Bob Dole on Monday, May 13. On Wednesday, Dole then dramatically announced his resignation from the Senate to run full-time for President on a non-existent campaign budget, in the apparent presumption of a receiving a Republican nomination that will not come his way. But don't be surprised if equally dramatic and convoluted decisions are announced by the Clintons in the near future. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMaAVkWX1Kn9BepeVAQHDOwP/agrLKUKgt97N5rEKUy9rglIgXs7z40Cp 2+ruMkDGPy+YNkperTcKzzf2P+CtV9+AfIG/MXr+36N99ovyhRiT54UpW5FXOH5a jJ2/kyrC+bks402TxImA/YdZwN2EaMYMnvnbirjdleZF9DXBIOfl7lc42SQnjSAg I8wAol/fuq4= =iAPr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From: steve@linex2.linex.com Reply-To: SNETNEWS@XBN.SHORE.NET Subject: (Fwd) Fwd: Re: What about Boorda? Date: Mon, 20 May 1996 11:48:44 -0700 Organization: ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Date: Sun, 19 May 1996 18:25:09 -0700 From: dcox@ix.netcom.com (DANNY COX) Reply-to: iufo@xbn.shore.net To: Multiple recipients of list IUFO Subject: Fwd: Re: What about Boorda? I have seen a couple of posts concerning the "angel of death" on this list, so I am providing the following update. The following message is from Jim Norman (Tenega) and is directed to Sussman, owner of the cs list. Jim Norman originally published the story about the angel of death/fifth column in a publication of very limited circulation called "Media Bypass", as I recall. Norman orginally wrote the article when he was working for "Forbes" magazine, a year or two ago. Forbes initially planned to publish the article, but it was cancelled on orders from top management. Norman continued to research the story and eventually lost his job at "Forbes". Hayes and associates are the "angels of death" or "5th column", and they are supposedly current or former members of the intelligence commumity who have tracked illegal payments (bribes) to politicians and are forcing them to resign in order to avoid public disclosure of their crimes. From: Tenega@aol.com Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 13:03:39 -0400 To: djsussma@oakland.edu Subject: Re: What about Boorda? One of Hayes' guys delivered Dole an evelope on Monday, upon which Dole, on the spot, agreed to resign from office. Don't know waht was in the envelope. But apparently is was material OTHER THAN Swiss bank account data. The stuff about Elixabeth Dole's Swiss account is another shoe still to drop. Impliation is taht if Dole ever gets very high in the polls, it will be delivered before the election. I'm waiting to get a copy of Hayes' ticket stub from the ValuJet flight. He and a companion, (another intelligence community veteran and explosives expert), had flown to Miami to sell an airplane and had planned to come back to Ky via Atlanta on ValuJet. Their tickets would have allowed them to travel on any flight that day, I think. But they had planned to take the ill-fated flight. They were delayed, decided to have lunch and take a later flight. While at the restaurant, they apparently saw a TV report of the crash. Hayes tends to discount the idea that the disaster had anything to do with his possible travel on theat flight. Yes, he says, his name wuld have shown up on a preliminary passenger list. But would not appear on the actual manifest, since he didn't make the flight. As to Boorda: Hayes says that was just a matter of personal tragedy. Boorda was about to be relieved of his command over the series of fu**-ups by the Navy in recent months, from Tailhook to plane crashes to prostitution and car theft rings being run out of the Naval Academy. No Fifth Col. factor, however. JN ~ From: al@powergrid.electiriciti.com Reply-To: SNETNEWS@XBN.SHORE.NET Subject: Re: PIML 96052103 - Still More Hayes/Angels of Death Date: Tue, 21 May 1996 12:07:06 -0700 Organization: As a note of interest, Forbes cancelled the story on the fifth column because their publisher emeritus was Casper Weinberger (I'm pretty sure it was him)-- one of those that had his Swiss account hacked. Jim Norman was given a blind Swiss bank account number by Hayes to check their story out. Norman was able to determine that, in fact, that account had been hacked and several million dollars returned to the US treasurey. Hayes claimed it was done because the person in question had sold information to the Israelis. Without finding out who the account belonged to, Norman sent the story upstairs. The story came back dead and Norman was offered a good severance package, or leave without pay. He chose to go (of course). I'm dieing to read the book. Does anyone know if its out yet and what it is called? By the way, the CIA backs Clinton (he has worked for them since college in England) and I suspect the fifth column wouldn't hit Dole to support the Company like that. The CIA has done everything it could to hurt Dole, including making sure Gringrich couldn't campaign for him in the primaries and has to take a very limited role now -- but that's another story. Alijandra 960523 Jim & Orlin-- Who is the "Angel of Death"? Is this the same guy who found a bunch of secret files concerning Confidential Informants on some used computer junk a couple years ago? At the time it was merely amusing, and I did not keep a note of it. I did not even write down the name. I do remember that he was keeping the junk in the old Nancy, Kentucky, schoolhouse. But there is no "Charles Hayes" at Nancy in the phone book. Nancy is just across the lake from me. OK, it is a big lake, but it is still only an hour's drive. One of my research projects is the involvement of police, lawyers, judges, politicians, bankers, prison guards, spooks, and other social predators in the enormously profitable illegal drug business. Is this fellow worth talking to? The CIA seems to be a major player in the drug corruption. Is Chuck Hayes protecting or exposing this?? David P Beiter .=-. byter@mcimail.com .-=. Geochemist _..-'( jascii@highland.net )`-.._ CAVE, Inc ,/./'-'.]]]\\. (\_/) .//[[[.`-`\.\, Monticello ./.'i]'.].]]]]]\\:. )o o( .://[[[[[.[.`[i`.\. 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JN Date: Sun May 26, 1996 1:58 pm CST From: bigred EMS: INTERNET / MCI ID: 376-5414 MBX: bigred@duracef.shout.net TO: Conspiracy Nation EMS: INTERNET / MCI ID: 376-5414 MBX: CN-L@cornell.edu BCC: * David Beiter / MCI ID: 635-1762 Subject: Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 7 Num. 97 The following is brought to you thanks, in part, to the kind assistance of CyberNews and the fine folks at Cornell University. Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 7 Num. 97 ====================================== ("Quid coniuratio est?") ----------------------------------------------------------------- U.S. SELLS SECRET DATA TO CHARLES HAYES ======================================= *New York Times*, NATIONAL, Sunday, Sept. 2, 1990 (p. 25) "U.S. Mistakenly Sold a Prosecutor's Secret Data" Pikeville, Ky., Sept. 1 (AP) -- A United States Attorney's secret computer files, including electronic copies of sealed indictments and information about pending F.B.I. inquiries, were mistakenly sold by the Government a month ago to a businessman who paid $45 for what he thought was only broken computer equipment. The Justice Department now says the sale could compromise any number of criminal cases, and it has sued the businessman to get the data back. The businessman, Charles Hayes, who resells Government surplus items, says that he would like to cooperate but that the equipment he bought, and various parts from it, have now been mixed with his previous inventory and so he is no longer sure which is which. He says he is trying to determine which of his customers may have bought some of the equipment, but he is resisting the Government's demand that he identify those customers, terming it an unwarranted intrusion into his business. -+- A Search of His Business -+- The Government finds Mr. Hayes's attitude insufficiently forthcoming. In addition to the lawsuit, which was filed Thursday, Federal marshals armed with a search warrant arrived Friday night at his establishment in Pulaski County, about 125 miles west of here. By the time they had left nine hours later, they had seized what Mr. Hayes described today as nine computer terminals, a computer memory device and assorted other equipment. According to the Government's lawsuit, the case stems from a mistake made last January when a technician for the Harris-Lanier Corporation, the manufacturer of the system that Mr. Hayes would later buy, arrived at the office of the United States Attorney in Lexington, Louis DeFalaise. The system, in disrepair, was to be sold at auction, and the technician was supposed to erase the computer's memory. In July, at an auction of the General Services Administration, Mr. Hayes made a successful bid of $45 for the system: 13 computer terminals, two central memory units, two cartridge module drives and nine printers. After Mr. Hayes picked up the equipment on Aug. 3, the Harris-Lanier technician told the Government that he had not erased the memory after all; A magnetic probe used to scramble the data had been too weak, and, because the equipment was broken, technicians had been unable to purge the memory through normal computer commands. The Government's lawsuit says that the computer's memory and backup storage tapes almost certainly still contain sensitive details about informers who work for the Federal Bureau of Investigation, about sealed indictments, about federally protected witnesses and about employees in Mr. DeFalaise's office. -+- "Irreparable Injury" -+- "The U.S. Attorney's office," the lawsuit says, "used some or all of the computer equipment to prepare and store virtually every document and record generated by both the civil and criminal divisions of the office from 1983 to 1989." If made public, the suit goes on, the files could ruin criminal investigations and cause "great harm and irreparable injury" to the work of Federal prosecutors. "The seriousness of the injury to the United States of America cannot be understated," it says. Within hours of the lawsuits filing, a Federal district judge, Eugene Siler Jr., ordered Mr. Hayes to return the computer system to the Government and not examine, copy or distribute the data. A hearing has been set for Tuesday. Mr. Hayes said he had been told before he bought the equipment that the computer memory had been wiped out. He called the sale "the worst case of bureaucracy I have ever seen," and added, "If it is this loose, I wonder what else is missing up there" in the Office of the United States Attorney. "What it amounts to," he said, "is I am being punished for the inefficiency" in the prosecutor's office. ----------------------------------------------------------------- I encourage distribution of "Conspiracy Nation." ----------------------------------------------------------------- If you would like "Conspiracy Nation" sent to your e-mail address, send a message in the form "subscribe cn-l My Name" to listproc@cornell.edu (Note: that is "CN-L" *not* "CN-1") ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information on how to receive the improved Conspiracy Nation Newsletter, send an e-mail message to bigred@shout.net ----------------------------------------------------------------- Want to know more about Whitewater, Oklahoma City bombing, etc? 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Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 8 Num. 17 ====================================== ("Quid coniuratio est?") ----------------------------------------------------------------- SOME OBSERVATIONS ON THE NON-NEWS ================================= By J. Orlin Grabbe ------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Some Observations on the Non-News by J. Orlin Grabbe The most notable feature of the current state of journalism in the U.S. is the total dereliction of duty on the part of national political reporters. More than fifty congresscritters, senators, and state governors have announced their retirements in the past year, after they received packets from a group of hackers called the Fifth Column detailing illegal and unreported income from bribes, kickbacks, payoffs, and whatnot. This story of the wholesale sell-out of the U.S. political process should rank as one of the top stories of the decade. But the national media blandly reports the contrived explanations ("I just want to spend more time with my heretofore neglected family") and speculates on the sad loss of Washington country-club camaraderie that used to keep such fine people in public office forever. This lack of discernment reflects a level of stupidity that should make unsurprising the general media dismissal of the importance of Whitewater (prior to the recent convictions obtained by Kenneth Starr), the head- in-the-sand stance on the murder of Vince Foster (even though virtually all official Washington knows Foster was murdered), the gullible acceptance of the official story on the downing of Ron Brown's plane (destroyed by a bomb), the lackadaisical acceptance of Bob Dole's claimed reasons for resigning from the Senate (he got a Fifth Column packet two days before the announcement), the air-head discussions of the coming "Clinton-Dole" election battle (as though there is going to be any such thing), and the "smell of roses" interpretation of the putrefying stench arising from almost everything the Clinton administration touches. To be sure, some journalists have picked up part of the story. But often they have pursued the partial picture with a monomania that has turned their entire effort into a circus sideshow. One example is that of Ambrose Evans- Pritchard and Chis Ruddy who, while still trying to convince who-knows-whom that the death of Vince Foster was not a suicide, managed to acquire a Pet Witness to the disposal of Foster's body at Ft. Marcy Park--a witness whom they paraded forth with fanfare, accompanied by tales of swarthy Middle-Eastern lurkers who scowled fiercely in broad daylight (a staged event effective in impressing naive journalists). When the Special Prosecutor, Kenneth Starr, failed to drop everything he was doing and devote himself to enhancing these journalist's own sense of self-importance, he became, naturally, part of the cover-up. But Starr wisely continued to follow his mandate to untangle Whitewater-related malfeasance on the part of the Clintons, and left the sideshow antics to these misguided journalists who hadn't a clue as to what was going on. Starr, after all, knew what he was doing. (Although, to be sure, it took Starr a while to realize that the FBI was out and about intimidating his own witnesses, a fact Ruddy was to point out.) The goal of the FBI in all this has been to keep reporters in a state of somnambulism. But last week Louis Freeh suddenly discovered his bread wasn't buttered on the side of Bill Clinton, announcing that the White House request for FBI files on prominent Republicans and others outside the Clinton administration had been totally inappropriate. The White House made a statement that the whole thing was really just the fault of some Clinton underling operating out-of-control as usual. Freeh's statement meanwhile leaves unexplained why the FBI turned over the 400-plus files to the White House in the first place. Freeh's stated 400-plus number of files upped the ante from the White House's admitted 300-plus number. It also illustrates that the FBI can't count, or can't tell the whole truth, since the actual number is 900-plus, as has been verified by anyone who has bothered to download the same set of files from the FBI computer, such as that other government agency that is looking into the matter. Maybe Bernie Nussbaum took the rest of the files home, just to make sure the wrong people didn't read them. Freeh of course is coming off the PR high of having ended the Freemen siege without bloodshed. But his problems in Montana aren't over. There is the little matter of Montana FBI agents involved in drug dealing. The Canadian-Montana border is now the principal point of entry of illegal drugs coming into the U.S. Montana is awash in them. A series of clandestine airfields stretches across the state. Naturally the journalists covering the Freemen picked up none of this bigger story right under their noses. Big names are involved in the drug operation, including the soon-to-be-indicted Governor of Montana. Another name that surfaces in the Montana operation is that of ex-President George Bush. Bush's indiscretions are beginning to catch up with him. This past week he took a trip to Bern, Switzerland, together with Colin Powell, who is not running for President. It seems that an arms deal between the two of them went sour when a relevant account at the local bank turned up missing $75 million dollars. In panic mode they flew over to try to patch things up. Hope you two boys remembered to smile a lot: You were on candid camera. Maybe you should try something legal for a change? Others are more overt in their criminality. Jackson Stephens, Don Tyson, and Richard Mellon Scaife recently pooled their pocket change and put out a $100,000 contract on the Angel of Death. They farmed it out to the New Orleans Syndicate. The breakdown is reportedly $50,000 by Stephens, and $25,000 each by Tyson and Scaife. This makes the second time the lying Jackson Stephens has hired an assassin this year ("I've learned my lesson," he said, after the first one, Pablo, was put on a plane back home). But I hear the CIA, which has never really had anything against the corrupt politicians targeted by the Angel of Death--after all they're much easier to manipulate than the honest kind--has finally decided to get on the right side of things. Say, Jack, what about that dead body found lying in your backyard last week? You don't suppose it was the chickenshit coming home to roost, do you? As they say, payback is hell. As if it weren't enough dealing with the criminals, there are also the forces of law 'n order (if you want to call them that) to worry about. Janet Reno sends word that the Justice Dept. will leave the Angel of Death alone if he will leave the Justice Dept. alone. It's an interesting proposition: sort of like that of a pugilist who walks down the street and punches a random passerby in the face, then immediately announces, "Let's call a truce." Ms. Reno, as one Harvard graduate to another I take your word Justice didn't have anything to do with destroying my private email and Usenet postings of Hackers versus Politicians, Part II. You blamed the X2 division of NSA. Well, what about the actions of X2? This is apparently the new Standard of Excellence at Justice: As long as we don't commit any crimes ourselves, we're doing okay. One consolation is that X2 found those little TCP/IP packets formed from Hackers versus Politicians extremely toxic. Secret contents created a cancer in the NSA computers that devoured them. Some NSA computers were fried from mysterious voltage surges. Others caught fire in thermite-like reactions. NSA attributed these problems to an Act of God. This in itself shows where NSA stands in the Divine Hierarchy. One cannot say X2's instincts were wrong. The Fifth Column has been supplying information to the Special Prosecutor from the beginning. But after Hackers versus Politicians appeared, hundreds of surprisingly professional hackers began pouring relevant information into the hands of Kenneth Starr and others. Their efforts have greatly supplemented the work of the Fifth Column. And all along Kenneth Starr has been quietly building his cases brick by brick, preparing indictments and sitting on them until the proper time, mapping out court trials, sifting through evidence, not plea bargaining when it is not necessary. In short, doing his job in a masterful manner. But you will find few journalists on the left or the right who will admit this, admit they were wrong, even after the total success of the first Whitewater trial. One assumes they will hold firm, even after Bill Clinton resigns. Being a journalist, after all, means never having to say you are sorry. June 17, 1996 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMccYEmX1Kn9BepeVAQFCpAQAkScApjx6tS2wdkCllqHQ3XwKOwDIDihb MRaTdzEdryuaA/5jPJKk9FKMAWZ5+zZ6G51vHZqkecTVApP+uH12lpX4e+5uLRNt e1dlcSIPNlR8+UU33RsC4NamZWy27sQT9GN+6IbvMM/4mr1WmglKqHdFwmdtfIe6 nH+2RclQjJg= =iA/8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + I neither necessarily agree nor disagree with either all or parts of the preceeding. For further background, visit Orlin Grabbe archives at ftp.shout.net pub/users/bigred/og -- Brian Francis Redman Editor-in-Chief Conspiracy Nation ----------------------------------------------------------------- I encourage distribution of "Conspiracy Nation." ----------------------------------------------------------------- If you would like "Conspiracy Nation" sent to your e-mail address, send a message in the form "subscribe cn-l My Name" to listproc@cornell.edu (Note: that is "CN-L" *not* "CN-1") ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information on how to receive the improved Conspiracy Nation Newsletter, send an e-mail message to bigred@shout.net ----------------------------------------------------------------- Want to know more about Whitewater, Oklahoma City bombing, etc? (1) telnet prairienet.org (2) logon as "visitor" (3) go citcom ----------------------------------------------------------------- See also: http://www.europa.com/~johnlf/cn.html ----------------------------------------------------------------- See also: ftp.shout.net pub/users/bigred ----------------------------------------------------------------- Aperi os tuum muto, et causis omnium filiorum qui pertranseunt. Aperi os tuum, decerne quod justum est, et judica inopem et pauperem. -- Liber Proverbiorum XXXI: 8-9 Date: Fri Oct 25, 1996 12:09 pm CST From: bigred EMS: INTERNET / MCI ID: 376-5414 MBX: bigred@duracef.shout.net TO: Conspiracy Nation EMS: INTERNET / MCI ID: 376-5414 MBX: CN-L@cornell.edu BCC: * David Beiter / MCI ID: 635-1762 Subject: Angel of Death Arrested (fwd) *caveat lector*. This means, "reader beware." In other words, it is up to the reader to form her/his own judgements as to the following. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 23:10:17 -0500 (EST) From: KALLISTE@delphi.com Subject: Angel of Death Arrested Angel of Death Arrested by J. Orlin Grabbe The Justice Department doesn't like it when you mess with their stolen software, in particular the PROMIS system appropriated from Inslaw, Inc. Chuck Hayes should know. He is currently being held without bond in the London, Kentucky jail. All based on the tale of an unidentified, undercover FBI agent. FBI agents, of course, always tell the truth. Hayes had his first run-in with the Justice Department in August 1990 when he purchased lot 097 of used computer equipment from the office of the U.S. attorney in Lexington, Kentucky. He discovered copies of the PROMIS software and all sorts of official records, such as the identity of people who had been placed in the federal witness protection program. When Hayes informed the Justice Department of their sloppy security, their reaction was to seize the equipment and to try to prosecute Hayes for receiving information he shouldn't have. On October 29, 1991, District Court Judge Eugene R. Siler issued an injunction forbidding Hayes from ever "possessing, retrieving, copying, duplicating, disseminating, disposing, transferring, selling, discussing or publishing, orally or in any other manner, any information or data which was stored in any part of the computer equipment or related items" in lot 097. (The case is discussed somewhat in David Burnham's *Above the Law: Secret Deals, Political Fixes, and Other Misadventures of the U.S. Department of Justice*.) But Hayes sued and got his equipment back from the government, along with an undisclosed settlement amount (rumored to be around $80,000). In addition to Judge Siler, part of the case between the Justice Department and Hayes was heard by Judge J. B. Johnson, who is now an Appellate Judge for the Sixth Circuit. In August 1992 Hayes again testified to a Chicago grand jury with respect to the Inslaw case, but his Chicago testimony was redacted under the National Security Act. Then in April 1996, Hayes provided Inslaw attorneys with an affidavit that detailed the government's use of the stolen PROMIS software. Hayes was afterward deposed by Beth Cook of the Justice Department, who made numerous attempts to entrap Hayes into either revealing his secret grand jury testimony from Chicago, or to admit to violations of Judge Siler's order. Now Judge J. B. Johnson, curiously acting as a District Judge for the Eastern District of Kentucky, has signed a criminal complain against "Chalmer C. Hayes, also know as Chuck Hayes, also known as Charles Hayes" (Case Number 96-6101M, October 22, 1996). An indictment was obtained by Joseph L. Famularo, U.S. Attorney in Lexington, Kentucky. The timing of this complaint is curious, given that Charles Hayes' most recent activity has been to assist the Special Prosecutor Kenneth Starr draft indictments against Hillary and Bill Clinton. Indictments for several people, including Hillary, were signed by grand juries in Arkansas and New York earlier this month. According to the present criminal complaint, Hayes supposedly contracted with an undercover FBI agent to have Hayes' son killed for $5,000. (It is no secret that Hayes and his son, who has had drug addiction problems in the past, do not get along, and that there is some civil litigation pending between them over an inheritance issue.) An affidavit of FBI agent David R. Keller reports on the activities of another, undisclosed "Undercover Agent (UCA) of the FBI". This agent supposedly offered to kill Hayes son, and Hayes discussed the matter with him over an open phone line. Then Hayes conveniently sent a package of documents to the agent, using his own return address. Then this agent showed up at the Beckett Motel in Nancy, Kentucky, where Hayes lives, while on his way to Louisville to scope out the dirty deed, and Hayes gave him $100 in expenses. Finally, Hayes promised this unidentified person $5,000 to be paid a week after the hit. Now I'm a novice at these matters, and it sure sounds plausible to me that if I were going to have someone killed, I would discuss the matter over the telephone so it could be recorded, then send out incriminating documents using my own return address, and finally invite the person over to my house so all the neighbors can see the two of us spending time together. But would Hayes be this naive? Well, I've talked to him on a daily basis for a year now, and all I can say is Hayes is extremely circumspect in any phone conversation. It would seem the Department of Justice hopes to kill two birds with one stone: 1) to keep Charles Hayes locked up past the election; and 2) to shut him up with respect to the Inslaw Case and the stolen PROMIS software. And, at least for the moment, they have succeeded. October 24, 1996 Web Page: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ Date: Sun Oct 27, 1996 8:54 am CST From: bigred EMS: INTERNET / MCI ID: 376-5414 MBX: bigred@duracef.shout.net TO: Conspiracy Nation EMS: INTERNET / MCI ID: 376-5414 MBX: CN-L@cornell.edu BCC: * David Beiter / MCI ID: 635-1762 Subject: The Metaphysics of Political Illusion (fwd) *caveat lector*. This means, "reader beware." In other words, it is up to the reader to form her/his own judgements as to the following. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 17:14:53 -0500 (EST) From: KALLISTE@delphi.com Subject: The Metaphysics of Political Illusion The Metaphysics of Political Illusion by J. Orlin Grabbe Micah Morrison says he's never been able to confirm Charles Hayes used to work for the CIA. That's okay. I've never been able to confirm Micah Morrison works for the *Wall Street Journal*. But he apparently gets paid for something. And most Kentucky junk dealers get their testimony redacted under the National Security Act. Because the chemical composition of ferrous oxide is now a state secret. There was a hearing today (Friday October 25) about whether bond should be set for Charles Hayes. The U.S. Attorney Joseph L. Famularo claimed Hayes was a menace to society on account of he had been writing articles under the pen name "J. Orlin Grabbe". They explained the great threat posed by "Hackers Vs. Politicians", and also discussed the literary works of Robert Louis Stevenson.. Well, that's all very interesting, because here I am-- as Charles Hayes--posting to the Internet from my jail cell. But as J. Orlin Grabbe, let me say this to you, Mr. Famularo: You are not only a kook, but, moreover--you stupid little shit--Chuck Hayes did not write one word of "Hackers Versus Politicians." I resent you attributing to another person the fruits and toil of my own efforts. But then, you work for the Justice Department, don't you, Mr. Famularo? No wonder you lie--it's in your nature. Readers may fax Mr. Joseph Famularo at 606-233- 2666 to get his explanation why Charles Hayes and J. Orlin Grabbe are the same person. Be careful what you ask him, though. Mr. Famularo is somewhat schizophrenic, and may decide that either you or he is also Charles Hayes. People are wondering what happened to the Starr indictments. Nothing. Indictments were signed earlier this month by grand juries both in New York and in Arkansas, including an indictment of Hillary Rodham Clinton. I do not know why they have not been announced, or why there has been no bail hearing for Hillary. To withhold this information from the voters is clearly playing politics. Starr shouldn't do that. You can fax Mr. Kenneth Starr at 202-514-8802 and ask him to explain what's going on. October 25, 1996 Web Page: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ Date: Sun Oct 27, 1996 1:50 pm CST From: bigred EMS: INTERNET / MCI ID: 376-5414 MBX: bigred@duracef.shout.net TO: Conspiracy Nation EMS: INTERNET / MCI ID: 376-5414 MBX: CN-L@cornell.edu BCC: * David Beiter / MCI ID: 635-1762 Subject: Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 9 Num. 55 The following is brought to you thanks, in part, to the kind assistance of CyberNews and the fine folks at Cornell University. Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 9 Num. 55 ====================================== ("Quid coniuratio est?") ----------------------------------------------------------------- FOCUS ON CHARLES HAYES ====================== The book from which the following is excerpted, The Octopus: Secret Government and the Death of Danny Casolaro, by Kenn Thomas and Jim Keith, will be available in late November from Feral House, POB 3466, Portland, OR 97208. One person who might have had a view of how PROMIS works was Charles Hayes. Newspapers identified Hayes as a salvage dealer in Pulaski County, Kentucky, near the temporary home of Ari Ben- Menashe in Lexington, who purchased $45 worth of surplus computer equipment from the government in July 1990. The equipment included 13 terminals, nine printers, two cartridge module drives, 19 backup cartridges and two central memory units--equipment that had been used by the US Attorney's office since 1983 to maintain information via PROMIS on the witness protection program, informants, office employees, and outstanding grand jury cases. In August, when federal officials discovered that a weak magnetic screwdriver had failed to purge this information from the equipment adequately, two FBI agents dispatched to make inquiries of Hayes were kicked out.(1) Three days later, Hayes began to cooperate with the US Attorney's office, denied that he had possession of any information that might have been on the equipment, and invited an inspection. Inspectors discovered that the serial numbers of the two cartridge modules that Hayes claimed were the ones he bought did not match the numbers of the modules the Justice Department had sold. (2) Hayes then claimed he had sold the modules, but did not name the purchasers until after federal officials filed a lawsuit.(3) Justice Department attorneys later claimed that Hayes had indeed tried to sell the secret information to an undercover informant, but criminal charges were never filed. (4) The case led to a congressional investigation of computer security; the Justice Department now tosses rather than sells its extra data storage devices. (1) Baker, David L., "Computer Records Accidentally Sold," Lexington Herald-Leader, September 1, 1990. (2) Baker, David L., "Buyer Says Agents Didn't Find Computer With Secrets," Lexington Herald-Leader, September 5, 1990. (3) "Buyer of US Computer Files To Be Disclosed," Lexington Herald-Leader, September 6, 1990. (4) Baker, David L., "US Says Pulaski Man Tried To Sell Secrets," Lexington Herald-Leader, September 22, 1990. ...and With the help of Wackenhut and the Cabazons, according to Ari Ben-Menashe, the US developed its own version of the back-door and the US and Israel began looking for a neutral company through which it could sell the program to foreign intelligence services. The company chosen for the task was Degem, a computer firm with offices in Israel, Guatemala and the South African Bantustan homeland. It had been taken over for the purpose by Robert Maxwell, the publishing mogul who drowned under mysterious circumstances in 1991. Through Maxwell's Degem, working in tandem with Brian's Hadron, the software found a home with the military regime in Guatemala, where it tracked leftist insurgents. "Even if they traveled under a false name, various characteristics, such as height, hair color, age, were fed into roadside terminals and PROMIS searched through its database looking for a common denominator. It would be able to tell an army commander that a certain dissident who was in the north three days before had caught a train, then a bus, stayed at a friend's house, and was now on the road under a different name. That's how frightening the system was." According to Ben-Menashe, PROMIS was used in South Africa to track and squelch the organizers of a strike among the black coal miners via their mandatory identity cards (5). Degem also sold PROMIS to the Soviet Union and the system was utilized by its GRU intelligence service at least until the coup against Mikhail Gorbachev. (6) (5) Oddly, a member of a congressional delegation sent on a fact- finding tour to Johannesburg at the exact moment the world's second largest platinum mine fired 20,000 black workers to end a walk-out in January 1986, was Charles Hayes of Chicago. The mine was located in the homeland of Bophuthatswana, northwest of Johannesburg ("South African Platinum Mine Fires 20,000 Blacks Over Strike," Lexington Herald Leader, January 7, 1986.) In December of that year, the Charles Hayes, who would later buy the loaded Justice Department computers but identified then as an attorney, was involved with a gemstone smuggling operation in Brazil with links to Kentucky. He represented one of the Brazilian corporations indicted by the US over the smuggling. (White, Jim, Courier-Journal, September 6, 1990.) (6) Ben-Menashe, Profits of War, p. 141. Kenn Thomas publishes Steamshovel Press, a journal that regularly examines conspiracy theories. Singles issues: $5.50 in USA; US$6.50 foreign. 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(1) telnet prairienet.org (2) logon as "visitor" (3) go citcom ----------------------------------------------------------------- See also: http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html ----------------------------------------------------------------- See also: ftp.shout.net pub/users/bigred ----------------------------------------------------------------- Aperi os tuum muto, et causis omnium filiorum qui pertranseunt. Aperi os tuum, decerne quod justum est, et judica inopem et pauperem. -- Liber Proverbiorum XXXI: 8-9 Date: Tue Oct 29, 1996 1:04 pm CST From: bigred EMS: INTERNET / MCI ID: 376-5414 MBX: bigred@duracef.shout.net TO: Conspiracy Nation EMS: INTERNET / MCI ID: 376-5414 MBX: CN-L@cornell.edu BCC: * David Beiter / MCI ID: 635-1762 Subject: Jim Norman: On AOD Arrest (fwd) *caveat lector*. This means, "reader beware." In other words, it is up to the reader to form her/his own judgements as to the following. Jim Norman, author of the following, has worked as a professional journalist for years, his last stint being a senior editor for Forbes magazine. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 18:49:48 -0500 From: Xxxxxxx Xxxxxxx To: bigred@duracef.shout.net Subject: Jim Norman: On AOD Arrest >Hayes was picked up Tuesday afternoon about 5 p.m. by three FBI agents. hey >cuffed him. No "incident." The indictment purports to claim that an >undercover agent taped conversations in which Hayes contracted the killing >of his son, then paid $100 in expenses. Attached is my opinion of the whole >thing, as spelled out in a memo to xxxxx xxxxxxxx yesterday. > >In addition to the points in my memo and Orlin's post, things that smell >really fishy: >1.) The price is awfully cheap for a professional hit. And Hayes would not >use an amateur. >2.) The payment was to be after the job was done. Unusual terms in most hits. > >My personal opinion is that the FBI fabricated the audio tapes based on >months worth of tapping Hayes' phone. (I'm sure that from his converstaions >with me alone they could pull together what looks like an incriminating >string of statements.) Eventually they would have collected enough >phraseology to concoct any sort of lurid scenario. You could wonder why >they would take such a crazy risk. But considering the stakes involved >(massive drug and arms payolla that would be severely hurt if Hayes were >allowed to continue) it was necessary. > >The good news is that Hayes has a pretty sharp criminal attorney working for >him now who has a track record of beating the FBI (and even getting an agent >fired for fabricating evidence). I'm confident he will ultimately prevail >in court. But the media slanders and damage to Chuck's credibility may >persist and cast a pall over Starr's pending indictments. Evil abounds. > >Regards, JN > >(xxxmemo attached) > >24 October 1996 >xxxxx xxxxxxxx >xxx xxxx xxxxxx xxxxxxx > >xxxxx: >Here is a copy of the federal indictment on which Chuck Hayes has been >arrested and held in jail without bond in the London (Ky) jail. I believe >this is a bogus prosecution meant for intimidation purposes. Here is why: > >1.) The timing. Hayes has been working closely with Ken Starr in drafting >the indictments against Bill and Hillary Clinton. Hayes has indicated to a >number of sources that those indictments will, in fact, come down BEFORE the >election. Hayes himself would very well be a primary witness against the >Clintons, in that his Fifth Column computer hacking team has generated much >crucial banking documentation for Starr under a sanction from a high-level >U.S. intelligence agency. It was such hacked bank records (introduced in >after-hours testimony sealed under auspices of the National Security Act) >which resulted in the conviction of Jim Guy Tucker. > >2.) The circumstances described. The FBI would have the world believe that >Hayes was stupid enough to talk on an open phone line (Hayes Always assumed >it was tapped when talking to me on that line) about this stuff, to someone >he didn't know, then mail them incriminating materials with his own return >address on them, and then arrange a meeting at his own home and place of >business. Hayes may be unorthodox, even a bit crazy by our standards. But >he is NOT stupid about this stuff. > >3.) Blatant errors in the information. One that leaps out is the claim in >the affidavit that 606-636-6900 is the listed number for the Becket Motel. >Wrong. The only listed number for the motel is 606-636-6411. > >4.) Motive. It is no secret Hayes and his son (a druggie) don't get >along. There is civil litigation pending between them over an inheritance >issue. But Hayes is not THAT hard up for money (he's worth easily a couple >of million dollars) and no matter how mad he might be at John, It is utterly >implausible that he'd put out a contract to kill his own son now after all >these years of animosity, when he is on the verge of winning the inheritance >case. > >5.) Capabilities. If Hayes wanted John dead, he would have gone up there >and killed him himself or could have called on any of a dozen loyal >supporters. Hayes is certainly capable of killing. He has in the past. >But I absolutely believe this is a blatantly political prosecution by a >corrupt Dept. of Justice desperately trying to protect a gigantic illegal >money vortex of arms and drug money that has compromised the highest levels >of our government. > >6.) The DOJ wants revenge. Hayes has been kicking their ass for the past >year or more, partly through the internet postings of J. Orlin Grabbe >(http://www.aci.net/kalliste/) and through Media Bypass magazine. He also >submitted to a DoJ deposition in the Inslaw case last April that proved a >major embarassment to the government. Not to mention the drubbing he gave >DoJ in that 1990 computer salvage case (in which he bought used DoJ compuers >with pirated Inslaw software on them along with witness protection files). > >Hayes' attorney, I'm told, is one Warren Scovill, 606-878-6400. A detention >hearing on DoJ's petition that he be held without bond is set for tomorrow >at 10 a.m. in London, Ky. > >Cordially yours, > > >Jim Norman xxx xxx-xxxx (phone and fax) > > > Noti, Oregon (25 miles up the coast range from Eugene) ------------------------------ End of BackToBasics Digest ****************************** Date: Thu Oct 31, 1996 3:43 pm CST From: bigred EMS: INTERNET / MCI ID: 376-5414 MBX: bigred@duracef.shout.net TO: Conspiracy Nation EMS: INTERNET / MCI ID: 376-5414 MBX: CN-L@cornell.edu BCC: * David Beiter / MCI ID: 635-1762 Subject: Chuck Hayes Versus Bill Clinton (fwd) *caveat lector*. This means, "reader beware." In other words, it is up to the reader to form her/his own judgements as to the following. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 21:17:31 -0500 (EST) From: KALLISTE@delphi.com Subject: Chuck Hayes Versus Bill Clinton Chuck Hayes Versus Bill Clinton by J. Orlin Grabbe I had been out of state and only checked my answering machine from time to time. When I got back to Reno, I hit the button. There was a message from Sherman Skolnick. Robert Strauss, a well-known Democrat and head of a large law firm, had called him three times. Strauss was threatening to have Sherman arrested the next day, Monday. "Has Strauss called you?" Sherman wanted to know, when I returned the call. "No," I said. "He hasn't threatened you?" Sherman asked. "No, but if he did, I would tell him to go fuck himself," I replied. Sherman had reported that Robert Strauss had lead a delegation to the White House asking Bill Clinton to resign. I had also reported the same meeting, albeit in deliberately abbreviated form. I rarely paid any attention to Skolnick, because most of his reporting was such a mixture of truth and error, it would take more effort to separate the two than to simply conduct ones own investigation of the facts. But his account of the Strauss meeting was quite accurate. "Strauss was there, right?" Sherman seemed unsure of his sources. "Or maybe there by teleconference?" "He was there, Sherman. He broke the ashtray just like you said," I replied. I didn't tell Sherman the rest of the exchange, the part he didn't know. Clinton had told Strauss he could call the guards and have Strauss thrown out of the White House. Strauss lost his temper: "You do, and I'll break your fucking neck before they get here," he told Clinton. Two other people at the meeting stood up: "And we'll help him," they said. (There were all sorts of false reports about the meeting. John Glenn was there, but only electronically. Ted Kennedy was not present.) I told Sherman that Strauss was just blowing smoke, and even though Strauss was a hot-head, I doubted Strauss would do anything. Strauss had no legal basis for doing so: Sherman's report was accurate. And I had no reason to get involved: Strauss was doing the right thing with respect to Bill Clinton, even if he was angry Skolnick had reported the meeting. Strauss was not the villain in the story. Bill Clinton was. On Monday, August 5, shortly after the Strauss visit, Chuck Hayes had a meeting with Bill Clinton. Clinton had requested the meeting to discuss the issues Strauss had raised. Clinton and Hayes had known each other for years: Chuck Hayes had been Bill Clinton's CIA controller, after Clinton was recruited into the CIA by Cord Meyer of the London CIA station. Hayes had supervised Clinton's forays into the Soviet Union, and it was Hayes who had gotten Clinton out of not-so- infrequent trouble while Clinton served the agency. "Before I ever cross you, " Clinton once told Hayes after having had his ass redeemed, "I hope I will put a gun to my head and pull the trigger first." I talked to Hayes about the Clinton meeting while Hayes was still at the White House. He had explained to Clinton some of the evidence that had been accumulated, reinforcing what Strauss had said, and detailing numerous other projected unpleasant consequences that would accompany any decision to not resign. The timing of this meeting was early in the game, in what is now a full-scale war over Clinton's resignation. Jim Guy Tucker was singing, specifically about Mena, even while Tucker's lawyer was denying that Tucker was cooperating out of fear that Tucker would be an assassination target. Hayes, in a more practical mode, had assigned two bodyguards to watch over Tucker. In escalating the pressure on Clinton to resign, it wasn't that Hayes disliked Bill Clinton as a person. It was just that Hayes loved his country more, and wasn't going to tolerate Clinton's participation in the transformation of the U.S. into a narco-republic. It was Hayes who first alerted me to Clinton's serious cocaine habit. In the mid- 80s, in Hayes' assessment, sure, Clinton would use coke at parties, but it wasn't a daily problem. But now, Hayes said, the coke was in control. And what Hayes claimed to me about the seriousness of Clinton's cocaine habit, was confirmed both by a White House source and by personnel at Bethesda Naval Hospital. Clinton was doing "five plus" lines of coke a day. That simply meant that five lines was the *minimum* usage. And it was Hayes and an associated group of computer hackers calling themselves the "Fifth Column" that was providing much of the financial and banking evidence that Kenneth Starr needed to nail Bill Clinton to the wall. This included downloading the entire White House "Big Brother" data base (WHODB), complete with its 2045 FBI files. (The Lippo computer was also connected to the Big Brother system. Does this imply the Lippo computer was also downloaded? I would advise Mr. James Riady to choose sides carefully.) Then Dick Morris resigned and began cooperating with the Special Prosecutor. Clinton was panicked. Dick Morris knew more about Clinton's illegal financial affairs than anyone since Vince Foster (who had conveniently died). Clinton wanted to meet again with Hayes to discuss things. They agreed to a time and place. But then Clinton cancelled at the last minute, and sent a jet to pick up Hayes to take him to the new rendevous location. Hayes refused to board the plane. They finally met at an airstrip in Kentucky. Clinton had an entourage that included Leon Panetta and George Stephanopolous. Other witnesses to this meeting include the Air Force Major who tried to intercept Hayes as he approached the Presidential jet, and the member of the Kentucky State Police who acted as Hayes' bodyguard. Hayes and Clinton had a private conversation in a motel room near the airfield. Hayes began by presenting Clinton with a copy of one of my Internet posts and an article from Barron's ("Federal agency attacked as dispenser of corporate welfare," by Jim McTague, September 16, 1996). The latter article gave context to a lot of computer-generated information. "Clinton's face turned whiter the more he read," according to Hayes. Their actual conversation is confidential. But one incident that happened afterwards is not. A FEMA group showed up to talk to Hayes. Clinton recognized them. "Did you tell them you were going to be here?" Clinton asked. "No," Hayes replied. "Do you talk to them?" "Daily." "How serious are they?" Clinton wanted to know. "Deadly." Meanwhile, Hillary Clinton had got it into her head that the Clinton's problems could be made to disappear. First of all, Dick Morris--like Vince Foster-- knew too much. She had conversations with an obscure group at the National Security Agency known as I3. She discussed details of a plan to murder Dick Morris. They also planned, provided the Dick Morris hit was successful, the assassination of Chuck Hayes. But word got out about the I3 plans. The men were arrested and interrogated. Hillary's next action (see "The Dickheads Are Getting Desperate") was to send sixteen FBI and Secret Service personnel down to Kentucky to make inquiries whether there was "some way to get to that son-of-a- bitch," meaning Chuck Hayes. And, ultimately, they found the ammunition they needed: 1) a local U.S. attorney who was representing the Justice Department in its attempt to quash all evidence with respect to the theft of the PROMIS software; 2) Hayes' ex-wife and one of his sons, who were involved with Hayes in an inheritance dispute; and 3) a lying FBI, eager to deflect attention from Fifth Column evidence of FBI involvement in drug-dealing. (To Be Continued) October 30, 1996 Web Page: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ 5 Date: Fri Nov 01, 1996 9:12 am CST From: bigred EMS: INTERNET / MCI ID: 376-5414 MBX: bigred@duracef.shout.net TO: Conspiracy Nation EMS: INTERNET / MCI ID: 376-5414 MBX: CN-L@cornell.edu BCC: * David Beiter / MCI ID: 635-1762 Subject: Chuck Hayes Versus Bill Clinton II (fwd) *caveat lector*. This means, "reader beware." In other words, it is up to the reader to form her/his own judgements as to the following. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 22:12:54 -0500 (EST) From: KALLISTE@delphi.com Subject: Chuck Hayes Versus Bill Clinton II Chuck Hayes Versus Bill Clinton II by J. Orlin Grabbe "Being the FBI apparently means never having to say you are sorry." --The Washington Times, October 30, 1996 "What do you say to a hero-turned-bombing-suspect you carelessly and recklessly linked to the Olympic bombing in Atlanta this summer--a man who has seen his reputation ruined from coast to coast and dawn to dusk in newspapers, magazines and on the airwaves, and for three months running has been, in effect, a prisoner in his own home? "Oops? Sorry? It was a bureaucratic snafu? "Not if you're the FBI. In that case you say, 'Unfortunately, criminal investigations often intrude upon the lives of private citizens like Mr. [Richard] Jewell and his mother' " ("The Richard Jewell treatment," The Washington Times, October 30, 1996). It's not just that the FBI can't say they're sorry. They're in the business of creating suspects and victims, in adherence to a legal Say's Law: *The supply of law enforcement creates its own demand*. FBI agents "used a ploy to try to get Jewell to waive his constitutional right to have a lawyer present while he was being questioned. . . . The agents told Jewell that he was being questioned in a mock setting in connection with a FBI training film about how to interrogate a witness. In the course of the discussion, he was asked to pretend to give up his rights by signing a waiver form" ("FBI's Interview in Bombing Investigated by Justice Dept.," The New York Times, October 30, 1996). This is the same FBI that killed Randy Weaver's family at Ruby Ridge. Afterward, a high-ranking official, E. Michael Kahoe, destroyed an internal critique of the FBI's performance in the episode. This is the same FBI whose undercover agent made an illegal interstate phone call from Alabama to Chuck Hayes in Kentucky on September 10, 1996, to discuss the killing of John Anthony Hayes, according to the affidavit of another FBI agent (Affidavit of David R. Keller, October 22, 1996). Such a phone call is in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 1958. But being the FBI means you are allowed to break the law. Subsequently, the Department of Justice charged Hayes with causing this unidentified, uncover FBI agent to use the telephone in interstate commerce in violation of Title 18, Section 1958. Now if I pick up the telephone and call U.S. Attorney (and identity expert) Joseph Famularo, it is--of course--quite clear that Joseph Famularo made me do it. "Mr. Famularo, got anyone you would like me to kill for $100?" So there. Can we arrest Mr. Famularo on the spot? The thug (and identity expert) is clearly in violation of Title 18, Section 1958. This is the same FBI that gassed and burned men, women, and children at the Branch Davidian compound in Waco, Texas. Of course the FBI does face a certain problem in Kentucky. It is not well-liked. For example, the Washington, D.C. FBI office sent out two cars that were specially equipped to vector in on a ground-to-satellite signal said to be eminating from time to time from an unidentified roving truck. One of these cars was driving down the freeway and mysteriously caught fire. The driver of the other car went into a restaurant and returned to find a bob cat in his vehicle. The bobcat had ripped out the interior and electrical wiring, and shit on the remains. (Apparently even animals don't like the FBI in Kentucky.) While the agent peered at the bobcat through the car window, a lady from the local humaine society showed up and threatened to have him arrested for having a wild animal in his car. (The bobcat, meanwhile, popped out the back windshield and ran away into the woods.) The car was towed away to a locked garage. But the FBI would like to blame its problems on Chuck Hayes. It has been gunning for Hayes for a long time. It was Chuck Hayes who essentially ran Louis Freeh out of a high-level intelligence meeting convened to discuss the downing of TWA 800. The meeting was being conducted by an explosive expert and friend of Hayes. Freeh kept interrupting with unconstructive political statements--asserting authority before evidence. The altercation ended with Freeh being dragged out of the meeting. No, Louis Freeh doesn't like Chuck Hayes. This is the same Louis Freeh whose FBI uploaded 2045 of its files into the White House "Big Brother" computer system, for political use by the White House. And it was Freeh's nemesis, Chuck Hayes, who testified about the 2045 files to a closed and secret committee of the U.S. House of Representatives, held without staff participation, but with an audience of eight U.S. senators. This is the same FBI who aided their informant Emad Salem in constructing the bomb that blew up at the World Trade Center in New York City on February 26, 1993 (combined report by Paul DeRienzo, Frank Morales and Chris Flash, "Who Bombed the World Trade Center?" The Shadow, Oct. 1994). This is the same FBI that is an unchartered organization--one never authorized by Congress. Thus FBI agents are simply Justice Department employees, illegally receiving benefits, illegally receiving pensions, and illegally carrying weapons. And it is not a crime to lie to the Department of Justice. If your client is in jail for lying to the FBI, I can put you in touch with the proper attorney who has a proven record in obtaining the release of such clients. This is the same FBI whose head, Louis Freeh, was terminated by the agency's payroll computer in Oklahoma on the basis that the FBI was not a chartered organization. After all, we all know that FBI files are secure and sacred, so the computer could not lie, could it? But Louis Freeh seemed to hold Chuck Hayes responsible for the incident. How could this be so, when official court records have declared that Chuck Hayes is computer illiterate? No, Louis Freeh must be blaming Charles Hayes out of pure spite. This is the same FBI that rushed to do the bidding of the White House in the Travelgate firings, doing criminal investigations of people who had just been unjustifiably terminated to make room for the friends of Bill and Hillary. This is the same FBI whose agent David R. Keller writes as follows: "I, David R. Keller, hereinafter referred to as Affiant, after having been duly sworn, states as follows: "1. That I am a Special Agent for the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), having been so employed since July 19, 1971. . . . "2. On or about September 6, 1996, the Affiant learned from the FBI Office in Birmingham, Alabama, that Charles Hayes, who resides in Nancy, Kentucky, at the Beckett Motel, was wanting to hire a hit man to kill an individual named John Anthony Hayes who resides in Louisville, Kentucky. "3. Affiant is aware that on September 10, 1996, an Undercover Agent (UCA) of the FBI, acting in an undercover capacity, made a recorded telephone call from the State of Alabama to Hayes, in Nancy, Kentucky, at telephone number [omitted]. "During this conversation, Hayes told the UCA that he (Hayes) had been expecting a call and that the UCA may be able to help him. Hayes stated that he need it done as soon as possible and agreed to send the UCA a photograph of the victim. Hayes furnished descriptive information and background of the victim. "4. Affiant is aware that on October 4, 1996, a letter was received at the post office in Birmingham, Alabama, with a return address of P.O. Box 185, Nancy, Kentucky, and appeared to have been postmarked 9/11/96. The letter contained a photograph of the intended victim, John Anthony Hayes, and documents containing background information on Hayes including John Anthony Hayes' address and the vehicles owned by John Anthony Hayes." (Affidavit of David R. Keller, October 22, 1996). I find this chain of supposed events remarkable. First of all, the FBI affirms its undercover agent violated U.S. law by making an interstate phone call volunteering to kill someone. Then this admittedly illegal phone call is "backed up" by incriminating evidence that arrives via the speedy U.S. Post Office only 23 days later--with Hayes' return address on it! Well, that proves everything. If the letter had Chuck Hayes' return address on it, Chuck must have send the documents. And I'm sure looking forward to hearing those tape recordings containing the word "victim". In the meantime, I hope no one sends out any incriminating documents with David R. Keller's return address on them. Or Joseph Famularo's. (To Be Continued) October 31, 1996 Web Page: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ Date: Sun Nov 03, 1996 8:25 pm CST From: bigred EMS: INTERNET / MCI ID: 376-5414 MBX: bigred@duracef.shout.net TO: Conspiracy Nation EMS: INTERNET / MCI ID: 376-5414 MBX: CN-L@cornell.edu BCC: * David Beiter / MCI ID: 635-1762 Subject: Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 9 Num. 58 The following is brought to you thanks, in part, to the kind assistance of CyberNews and the fine folks at Cornell University. Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 9 Num. 58 ====================================== ("Quid coniuratio est?") ----------------------------------------------------------------- CHALMER "CHUCK" HAYES: MYSTERY MAN ================================== The House Select Committee's final report on its investigation of the assassination Dr. Martin Luther King describes FBI conduct toward the slain civil rights leader as "morally reprehensible, illegal, felonious, and unconstitutional." Subsequently the word was that a "new" FBI, no longer like its former self, had arrived and we could all relax. Yet the reports we've been hearing lately on this federal busybody force belie the claim of "modernity" -- whatever that's supposed to mean. Does "new" and "modern" equal "better" when it comes to the FBI? Not so. The Federal Bureau of Investigation's "new" face is no different than its "old" face -- except that its agents are now wearing nylon windbreakers bearing brazen and unashamed "FBI" lettering on the back. It's still the same bunch that "investigated" the JFK assassination; they have not changed their ways. Waco, Ruby Ridge, Malcolm X's daughter, Richard Jewell: these federal boys and girls, like Bill Clinton, just "do as they please." I know that Chalmer "Chuck" Hayes is an "ex"-CIA agent and many may figure, "Who cares what happens to CIA people?" But the point is that, like at Waco, all citizens, no matter how unsavoury they might seem, are entitled to equal protection under the law. The American Civil Liberties Union understood this principle when, in the late 1970s, they defended the right of Nazi swine to march in Skokie, Illinois. Chuck Hayes, says local Kentucky newspaper the "Commonwealth Journal," has been charged in a "murder for hire" scheme. This charge is based on the FBI's claim that one of their agents, working undercover, phoned Hayes and contracted to "scare, hurt," or murder Hayes's son in return for $100. Hayes, at last report, is being held without bond. His location is not known. According to an anonymous fax I received today (November 3, 1996), the charge against Hayes is false and is a maneuver by the Clintons, Janet Reno, and FBI Director Louis Freeh against Hayes "in an attempt to silence him and stop his investigation for Ken Starr." What is more, adds the author of the anonymous fax, "the delay in making the existing indictments from being made public is only delaying the inevitable until after the election." A preliminary check with one of my sources, an individual whom I have code-named "Mr. Mercedes," leads me to believe that the author of the anonymous fax is no lightweight in his access to inside information. The anonymous fax goes on to warn: "Welcome to Watergate II, you sorry excuses for journalists. Sit back and watch the show unfold with FEMA declaring a national emergency and voiding the corrupt election of a criminal..." He adds that, "the Clintons know their co-presidency is soon to collapse and they, along with their cronies, are all heading to jail..." (Personally I am thinking lately, "Hey, come to think of it, I'm poor. So why should I care if Clinton gets in and taxes a bunch of rich dudes?" Yet beyond economics it's a basic question of right and wrong: no good can come from having a crook as President, even if he is my crook.) So not to get political (vote, or don't vote, for who you please), but Charles Hayes, no matter what his past associations, is a U.S. citizen with rights such as *habeas corpus*. No matter one's personal opinion of him, the principle comes first: FBI and the justice system has and does break the law it is supposedly meant to serve. What is happening to Chuck Hayes is an outrage, especially considering he is associated with an unpopular, fringe group. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Views expressed do not necessarily reflect those of Conspiracy Nation, nor of its Editor in Chief. ----------------------------------------------------------------- I encourage distribution of "Conspiracy Nation." ----------------------------------------------------------------- If you would like "Conspiracy Nation" sent to your e-mail address, send a message in the form "subscribe cn-l My Name" to listproc@cornell.edu (Note: that is "CN-L" *not* "CN-1") ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information on how to receive the improved Conspiracy Nation Newsletter, send an e-mail message to bigred@shout.net ----------------------------------------------------------------- Want to know more about Whitewater, Oklahoma City bombing, etc? (1) telnet prairienet.org (2) logon as "visitor" (3) go citcom ----------------------------------------------------------------- See also: http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html ----------------------------------------------------------------- See also: ftp.shout.net pub/users/bigred ----------------------------------------------------------------- Aperi os tuum muto, et causis omnium filiorum qui pertranseunt. Aperi os tuum, decerne quod justum est, et judica inopem et pauperem. -- Liber Proverbiorum XXXI: 8-9 Date: Tue Nov 05, 1996 5:21 pm CST From: bigred EMS: INTERNET / MCI ID: 376-5414 MBX: bigred@duracef.shout.net TO: Conspiracy Nation EMS: INTERNET / MCI ID: 376-5414 MBX: CN-L@cornell.edu BCC: * David Beiter / MCI ID: 635-1762 Subject: Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 9 Num. 59 The following is brought to you thanks, in part, to the kind assistance of CyberNews and the fine folks at Cornell University. Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 9 Num. 59 ====================================== ("Quid coniuratio est?") ----------------------------------------------------------------- ALERT: FORWARD TO ROSS PEROT ============================ I received the following communique from a person known to me to not be a lightweight in his knowledge of "deep politics" (Professor Peter Dale Scott's term for esoteric American politics; see his excellent book, *Deep Politics and the Death of JFK, Berkeley: University of California Press, 1993.) The person who authored the following communique is a questionable quantity as far as I'm concerned: yes, he has inside knowledge, but if or not he operates with a hidden agenda is unknown to me. My usual policy with information that may be important is to pass it along and let the reader make up her own mind. Also I offer the caveat that the following communique betrays an anti-Israel bias. My own opinion is that Israel is not the "big bad wolf" that some imagine it to be. This is hinted at, for example, by evidence showing Great Britain as puppet-master of Israel. Also, if Israel buys the U.S. Congress, whose fault is that? Israel's, or the Congress which is widely known worldwide as being for sale to the highest bidder? Finally, the author of the following communique makes mention of Media Bypass magazine and, specifically, that magazine's investigative reporter Lawrence Myers. Regarding Media Bypass magazine, they have published some good material in the past, yet lately seem to be wimping out with legal mumbo jumbo which goes nowhere. (For a good, fiction-based-on-fact account of what a dead-end labyrinthe legalisms can be, see *Bleak House* by Charles Dickens.) As to Mr. Myers, for all I know he may be a fine, honest reporter, maligned unjustly in some quarters. + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + 96/Oct/30 (Wed) Re: Chuck Hayes Alert Dear Soul, Please note that 1st hand report from 96/Oct/29 (Tue), concerning the alleged bond hearing on 96/Oct/28 (Mon) is as follows: 1. NO BOND *EVER* to be allowed 2. NO VISITORS 3. NO MAIL 4. NO PHONE 5. Only alleged attorney visits (2 attorneys named: 1. Kirk Davis, Burnside, Ky; 2. Warren Scolville, London, Ky; 3. PROBLEM, one of the two attorney's offices, Congressman Hal Rogers was observed as an office insider -- who is opposed to Chuck [Hayes].) 6. Chuck [Hayes] was swooped on by an FBI SWAT team on 96/Oct/22 7. Normal procedure is bond hearing next day -- Wed. 96/Oct/23 -- NOT HELD. 8. Thur 96/Oct/24 NO HEARING held but hearing promised for Friday 96/Oct/25. 9. 96/Oct/25 -- *NO HEARING* 10. 96/Oct/28 (Mon) Set for (a.) ARRAIGNMENT for 96/Nov/22 (b.) TRIAL Pre-set for 96/Dec/2 11. Very, very unusual outcome based rulings on an (a.) alleged felony, with (b.) no one actually hurt, (c.) no prior criminal record known or mentioned. It is probably not wisdom to leave this thing bottled up in peanut London, Ky. Please get this out on Internet or however or wherever. Also, we do not endorse the FBI/DOJ spin doctor Louisville, Ky Courier Journal 96/Oct/24 story as verification when they have (1) No Case #, (2) no Judges name, (3) no charge cited, or (4) for DOJ/FBI false evidence creation abilities. Please, if you can *get* *this* *to* *Ross* *Perot* (R.P.), please do so. If you have no good way to get R.P., -- Please put, "Alert, forward to R. Perot," on your Internet or anywhere and *get* *it* *to* *R.P.* Note: Before Lawrence "Mossad Morrano" Meyers took charge at *Media by Pass*, that magazine focused cover photos and stories on enemy perpetrators -- detailing their evil deeds -- such as Diane "Mossad" Feinstein. Since Mossad Meyers is in control they focus on souls trying to do good -- 4 of whom have been jailed or terrorized by the FBI/BATF/DOJ -- so far. The *first* was the leader of fed watchers: photoed on cover of Media by Pass by Meyers, almost immediately jailed thereafter. The *second* was a witness hidden from the OKC bombing perpetrators (BATF/FBI/DOJ) but exposed by Meyers, who turned the heretofore unknown witness over to the FBI/BATF/DOJ terrorizers. The *third* was when the new editor and Meyers published against Mary Snell, the wife of Richard Snell, and for his murderers, convicted felon Arkansas Governor Guy Tucker in league with the former Governor. The *fourth* is now *Chuck Hayes*, photo cover targeted in September 96 by Meyers, imprisoned in October 96 by FBI/BATF/DOJ. *WHO WILL BE THE NEXT VICTIM* of what should be correctly renamed *MEDIA BY MOSSAD*. + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + 1996/Nov/1 Brian, Please recall we have written to you in the past, having/working with Chuck Hayes, Xxxxxxx Xxxxxxx, others known to you -- Jim Norman, so forth. We have been de-stabilized by our imposter non-government for trying to help covert community souls who wind up in a jam. Which description now fits Chuck Hayes. We are asking you to use your computer resource access to get us "*best*" phone and fax [for] 2 to 3 persons: 1) Woolsey -- former CIA Director 2) R. Perot 3) Air Force General Cairn or Cairns (acting CIA Director four short weeks, before Deutch.) Each of these three has personal knowledge of Chuck [Hayes] and may help if pushed/goaded. Please respond in some way so we know you received this communication. 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(1) telnet prairienet.org (2) logon as "visitor" (3) go citcom ----------------------------------------------------------------- See also: http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html ----------------------------------------------------------------- See also: ftp.shout.net pub/users/bigred ----------------------------------------------------------------- Aperi os tuum muto, et causis omnium filiorum qui pertranseunt. Aperi os tuum, decerne quod justum est, et judica inopem et pauperem. -- Liber Proverbiorum XXXI: 8-9 Date: Mon Nov 11, 1996 11:26 pm CST From: bigred EMS: INTERNET / MCI ID: 376-5414 MBX: bigred@duracef.shout.net TO: Conspiracy Nation EMS: INTERNET / MCI ID: 376-5414 MBX: CN-L@cornell.edu BCC: * David Beiter / MCI ID: 635-1762 Subject: Allegations Regarding Foster, NSA, Banks: Part 37 Part 37: Allegations Regarding Vince Foster, the NSA, and Banking Transaction Spying by J. Orlin Grabbe Shortly after finishing The End of Ordinary Money, Part II, I received phone calls from Jim Norman of Forbes Magazine, Bill Hamilton of Inslaw, and Gregory Wierzynski, Assistant Staff Director of the House Committee on Banking and Financial Services. They were all interested in my references to money-laundering activities in Arkansas financial institutions, as well as to the use of the stolen PROMIS software in tracking financial transactions. Jim Norman was a Senior Editor at Forbes Magazine whose article entitled Fostergate had been killed by Malcolm S. ("Steve") Forbes. Forbes had done so at the urging of Caspar Weinberger, the former Reagan Secretary of Defense who was Chairman of the Board of Forbes, Inc. Norman was interested in my references to an NSA project to spy on banking transfers, because he had information that Vince Foster, a Rose Law Firm partner, oversaw such a project at Jackson Stephens' software firm Systematics. He also wanted to get Fostergate published elsewhere, and I promised to bring it to public attention through the Internet. Not all of the material in the article was familiar to me, but those parts that were had merit-- and in any case I didn't believe in military censorship of information presented in civilian financial publications. (I discovered soon enough, however, that most of the senior staff of Forbes Magazine had ties to the intelligence community, so perhaps Norman's experience was not all that uncommon.) Bill Hamilton of Inslaw had been pursuing a case for years to collect from the U.S. government the value of Inslaw's PROMIS software that had been stolen by the U.S. Department of Justice. In its original form, the PROMIS system was used for federal case management. Another version had been converted for intelligence use in tracking agents, operations, and movements. A CIA agent named Michael Riconosciuto had worked on this version, and--in connection with Bobby Inman of the National Security Agency--had created code that would cause the computer hardware to give off signals, disguised as noise, when the program was running. (The standing waves emitted can be modeled by mathematical functions called "Walsh functions".) The program was then marketed around the world by another CIA agent named Earl Brian, who set up a company for that purpose. One of Earl Brian's sales, made to the government of Brazil, was observed by another CIA agent named Chuck Hayes. Hayes had testified to this sale before a Chicago grand jury, but his testimony had been redacted under the National Security Act. These software sales were not only profitable to Brian's company, but they also allowed U.S. intelligence agencies to access the intelligence data of the foreign country running the software. The signals given off by the computer hardware could picked up by nearby vans or, often, by satellite. Another modification of the software had shown up at the World Bank in 1983, where it was being used to track wire transfers, apparently in connection with a money-laundering operation that went from BCCI London through the World Bank and into Caribbean institutions. This was of considerable interest to me, because I had learned in banking circles that the NSA was spying on banking transactions, and that this apparently included domestic financial transactions in certain instances. Gradually I had learned that the NSA seemed to be working through a Little Rock-based company called Systematics, which was controlled by Jackson Stephens, a principal financial backer of Bill Clinton, and a person connected with the BCCI purchase of First American Bank in Washington, D.C. In early 1995 I published on the Internet a bibliography of Systematics' banking deals, and in that context mentioned the name of Web Hubbell as being associated with the NSA project--but I did not yet know of Vince Foster's greater involvement. This bibliography had apparently been used by Norman and also by others pursuing the same story. Gregory Wierzynski was interested in money laundering. When I met with him and Stephen Ganis, Counsel to the House Committee on Banking and Financial Services, they were interested in any information I knew of that connected Vince Foster to money- laundering in Arkansas. I told them I had no non-public information, and gave them a copy of Fostergate, which Jim Norman had sent to me only a few days before. "Why would Steve Forbes kill it?" Wierzynski wanted to know. He knew Steve Forbes because Forbes, like Wierzynski, had once served as head of Radio Free Europe. As time passed, I became increasingly convinced that Wierzynski was more involved in covering up than in actual investigation. (Wierzynski's boss, Jim Leach, was overheard saying to Newt Gingrich about the investigation, "If we don't do something, this thing is going to get out of hand." This gave me little confidence Leach was going to conduct an aggressive search for the truth.) As best I could tell, Wierzynski had been booted out of the Pentagon after his son was caught hacking into Defense Department computers. Shortly after this meeting in June 1995, however, I began my series of Vince Foster posts ("Allegations Regarding Vince Foster, the National Security Agency, and Banking Transactions Spying") on the Internet, and sent copies along to the House Comittee on Banking and Financial Services. A few days later Jim Leach wrote to the Director of the National Security Agency asking about the allegations: "July 11, 1995 "Vice Admiral John McConnell, USN "Director, National Security Agency "Ft. George Mead, MD 20755 "Dear Admiral McConnell: "I am writing to seek your agency's help in verifying or laying to rest various allegations of money laundering in Arkansas in the late 1980s. For that purpose, I would request a briefing from NSA's Inspector General on Friday, July 14 before 1:00 p.m.; if that is not possible, sometime on Monday, July 17, would also be convenient. "The reports I have in mind have appeared in the general press and, sometimes in sensational form, in more narrow- gauged outlets, including the Internet. They speak of secret foreign bank accounts held by prominent people in Arkansas, special software to monitor bank transfers, and similar tales. I would like to determine whether there is any substance at all to these stories. "Specifically, I would like your Inspector General to tell me whether the Agency: "(1) knows of any secret bank accounts held by U.S. citizens domiciled in Arkansas at any time between 1988 and now; "(2) is aware, directly or indirectly, of any efforts by computer hackers, U.S.-government related or otherwise, to penetrate banks for the purpose of monitoring accounts and transactions; "(3) knows of or has participated, directly or indirectly, in efforts to sell software--notably versions of a program in use at the Justice Department called PROMIS--or clandestinely produced devices to foreign banks for the purpose of collecting economic intelligence and information about illicit money transfers; "(4) is cognizant of any attempts by Systematics Inc, an Arkansas-based electronic data processor that is now a division of Alltell [Alltel], to monitor or engage in the laundering of drug money or proceeds of other illegal activities, notably those conducted through Mena, Arkansas; "(5) can produce information about Charles Hayes, a businessman in Nancy, Kentucky, who claims to have been a CIA operative in Latin and Central America, among other places; "(6) knew of or was involved in, directly or indirectly, any covert activities by the U.S. government or any private parties (the so-called "private benefactors") in or around Mena in the late 1980s; "(7) had any contractual or other relationship with the late Adler Barriman "Barry" Seal in the 1980s or knew about his activities in connection with Mena. "I would appreciate your help in shedding light on these matters. "Sincerely, "James A. Leach "Chairman" (to be continued) November 11, 1996 Web Page: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ Date: Tue Nov 12, 1996 11:27 pm CST From: bigred EMS: INTERNET / MCI ID: 376-5414 MBX: bigred@duracef.shout.net TO: Conspiracy Nation EMS: INTERNET / MCI ID: 376-5414 MBX: CN-L@cornell.edu BCC: * David Beiter / MCI ID: 635-1762 Subject: part 38: vince foster, the NSA, and bank spying (fwd) *caveat lector*. This means, "reader beware." In other words, it is up to the reader to form her/his own judgements as to the following. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 12:40:52 -0500 (EST) From: KALLISTE@delphi.com Subject: part 38: vince foster, the NSA, and bank spying Part 38: Allegations Regarding Vince Foster, the NSA, and Banking Transactions Spying by J. Orlin Grabbe (continued from Part 37) What answers Jim Leach's House Committee on Banking and Financial Services received from the National Security Agency's (NSA's) Inspector General is not known, but apparently the NSA stonewalled the investigation. On July 23, 1995, Gregory Wierzynski emailed me, asking "Do you have suggestions on how we could verify some of the elements in the Norman story? I've talked to Chuck in Kentucky and am still in touch with him. But his stories have not panned out, even partially. I would be most interested in your ideas." I found this statement remarkable, and knew that Wierzynski was being deliberately obtuse. Moreover, neither I--nor anyone else of my acquaintance--had told Wierzynski that I was talking to Chuck Hayes in Nancy, Kentucky. Jim Norman had first suggested that I call Hayes-- had even implied that Hayes wanted me to call--but initially I had been reluctant to do so. There were enough people trying to get me off the Internet, and I was dubious of the motives of an ex-intelligence operative. But when I finally did so, we spent a hour and twenty minutes on the phone in a wide-ranging conversation about money- laundering. I jumped around from topic to topic, bringing up numerous obscure connections between the intelligence community and banking. In each case Hayes was right there with me, adding details to what we were discussing. From time to time I would make deliberate mis-statements to see if Hayes would catch the discrepancies. He did. By the end of the conversation it did not matter to me whether Chuck Hayes was just a hillbilly Kentucky junk dealer or an ex-member of CIA's division D. His knowledge spoke for itself. He had an intimate acquaintance with banking wire transfers, bank computer operations, and banking-intelligence connections, as well as detailed insights into current hidden money-laundering channels. Hayes was already familiar with my article *The End of Ordinary Money*. He said he had gotten his copy from the CIA library. The CIA had apparently either downloaded it from the Internet, or perhaps had obtained it through Robert Steele. Eric Bloodaxe, a.k.a. Chris Goggans, an ex-Legion of Doom member who edited a hacker publication called *Phrack*, had suggested I sent copies to Winn Schwartau of *Information Warfare* fame, and to Robert Steele, whose company Open Source Solutions, Inc., published a newsletter entitled *OSS Notices*, which advocated some radical changes to the process of intelligence collection. Steele had reviewed them as follows: "J. Orlin Grabbe has produced the first two in a series of three papers on digital cash, and I found them both educational and provocative. . . . He approaches the matter from a civil libertarian/civil disobedience perspective, and I find his perspective on the history of U.S. policy and technology, as well as the alternatives, well-worth review. This is a thoughtful popular perspective on issues of electronic privacy which bears on both the protection of intellectual property and electronic civil defense" (*OSS Notices*, vol. 3, issue 5, May 31, 1995). Chuck and I had some differences, to be sure. Hayes was spending much of his time tracking drug- money laundering through the U.S. financial system. I looked at the War on Drugs from an economic perspective: supply restriction leading to vast profit margins, with concomitant political payoffs and political corruption, while in the meantime prisons were being over-crowded with casual drug users. It was an exercise in insanity. Nor was I a fan of the DEA, with its record of civil rights violations. Hayes, by contrast, liked the DEA for their street smarts, which contrasted with the desk- level bureaucrats he was somewhat contemptuous of at the CIA. But Hayes was gunning for the people at the top of the drug-dealing and money-laundering pyramid, and this was fine with me. There was a close association between those administering the War on Drugs, and those profiting from it. In the case of money-laundering, it was even more blatant: it was hard to differentiate the money launderers from those that administered the money- laundering laws. I did not approve of the money- laundering laws themselves with their invasions of personal financial privacy. But on the other hand, hoisting government junkies on their own petard did not perturb me. Over a period of time, Hayes and I developed an information-sharing arrangement. Hayes was at the moment following the financial flows through Arkansas financial institutions, as well as through Mellon Bank in Pittsburgh. Also involved were New York banks, some members of the Chicago Mercantile Exchange, and at least one important official at the Federal Reserve. On the Arkansas front, Hayes was quite open in telling me he was going to nail Jim Guy Tucker to the wall, and over the following year I watched him do just that. One might assume from such a statement that Hayes was a Republican, out to get Democrats. But in fact Hayes' father had been a local Democrat party official, and Hayes had been a friend and admirer of John Kennedy. Hayes was not political in that sense, any more than I was. Some people have a strange habit of trying to interpret everything in political terms. When I first spoke to Sarah McClendon, she asked me, "Why are people saying all these things about Clinton, and they aren't saying anything about George Bush?" I refused to bite. I told her I didn't give a shit about the difference between Republicans and Democrats--that this was about criminality, not about partisan politics. Some people-- Republican or Democrat--are honest, and some are not. Sarah herself kept referring to the Clintons (Bill and Hill) as "virgins," which amused me to no end. But my interest was not partisan, and never has been. In a contrary vein, Jack Blum, who recently joined Jim Leach's House Committee on Banking as an investigator (and who quickly recommended they drop their Mena investigation), told Marianne Gasior that I was a right-wing nut because of what I had written about Bill and Hillary Clinton. Marianne said, "I don't think so," and read off my resume. Blum's response: "You're kidding." Gasior was politically a liberal Democrat, and when she was pursuing a case against Kennametal, which had done business with Iraq during the Gulf War, she received some support from Democrat politicians, because the issue was embarrassing to Republican interests. *Time Magazine* did a write-up of her efforts ("A Matter of Honor," June 21, 1993). But when she began to ask questions about what Hillary Clinton was doing on the board of Lafarge Corporation, which was part of the same smuggling network, Democrat support for her research quickly evaporated (see "Whatever Happened to Iraqgate?", *The American Spectator*, November 1996.) To the average political hack, partisanship always takes precedence over the search for truth. In Wierzynski's case, while supposedly investigating money-laundering for the House Committee, he seemed to be actually serving other interests--perhaps the Pentagon's, perhaps someone else's. Hayes had come up with financial records showing that fifty to seventy million dollars a day of drug-related money was being laundered through the institutions he was looking at. Wierzynski couldn't understand how such a thing was possible. He wanted "proof" in a neat little package, say a memo entitled "Today's Money-Laundering Report". He seemed to expect to ask a few questions, and then *voila!*-- the darkest secrets of American political life would be exposed. So it is not surprising that Wierzynski's investigation had gone nowhere before Jack Blum arrived to call the whole thing off. Meanwhile, Wierzynski's son, in school in England, had been indicted for supplying information to a group of Russian hackers in St. Petersburg, who had pulled off a heist of Citibank funds. Both Wierzynski and Stephen Gannis, the Counsel for the House Committee on Banking and Finance, were in touch with a San Francisco attorney named Charles O. Morgan. Systematics (now a subsidiary of Alltel) had hired Morgan to lie about its relationship to the NSA, and Morgan proceeded to do just that. In an April 5, 1995, letter to Michael Geltner, an attorney for Agora, Inc., Morgan wrote: "None of ALLTEL's operations or subsidiaries has ever had any connection in any capacity with the Central Intelligence Agency, the National Security Agency, or any other similar agency in the United States Government; . . ." But recent documents obtained under the Freedom of Information Act by *The Washington Weekly* from NSA show that, for example, that "The Arkansas-based security contractor Systematics Inc. on September 14, 1990 was awarded a $166,000 NSA contract to build a 'Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility' (SCIF) in Ft. Gillem, Georgia" (*The Washington Weekly*, Nov. 11, 1996). Morgan similarly denied any connection between Web Hubbell and Systematics, writing, "Webster Hubbell never served as an attorney or in any other capacity for ALLTEL Corporation, or for any of its operations or subsidiaries, other than a single instance in 1983, when Systematics, Inc., engaged Mr. Hubbell to pursue a competitor that was using Systematics, Inc.'s propriety software without authorization; . . ." But it is a matter of public record that when in 1978 Jackson Stephens tried to take over First American bank (later acquired by BCCI), that the bank sued Systematics along with BCCI, Bert Lance, and Jackson Stephens. Filing briefs for Systematics were Webster Hubbell, along with C.J. Giroir and Hillary Rodham Clinton. (Hubbell subsequently went to the Justice Department, and then to jail, after receiving a $500,000 payment for unspecified legal services from Indonesia's Lippo Group. C.J. Giroir left the Rose Law Firm and set up a consulting firm to arrange deals between the Lippo Group and Arkansas-based firms. Hillary Clinton recently declared her friendship for ex- Lippo employee and Democrat fund-raiser John Huang, and was also indicted by grand juries in Little Rock and in New York in October 1996. These indictments have not yet been made public.) But the non-pursuit of the drug-money laundering trail by the Leach Committee was not surprising. It stepped on too many toes. Hayes and I agreed that the U.S. was being rapidly transformed into a narco-republic. The drug cartels had penetrated the highest levels of the Justice Department and the FBI, elements of the intelligence community, and were additionally bribing a broad assortment of state and federal government employees and politicians. Even more alarming, the cartels were now making inroads into the White House. And the Clinton administration, with lax security stemming largely from a variety of drug-related issues, along with a pre-existing legacy of political corruption in Arkansas, had created a free-for-all playground for foreign agents. Everything was for sale, from trade policy to nuclear codes. Moreover, Bill Clinton (or perhaps those he surrounded himself with, while he partied on the side) was making rapid progress in turning the FBI and the Secret Service into a private political police force--a Gestapo whose duty was to investigate and harass (and even kill) his political opponents, and to cover up evidence of his own bad deeds. Extraordinary times required extraordinary measures. Enter the Fifth Column. (to be continued) November 12, 1996 Web Page: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ Date: Fri Nov 15, 1996 2:42 pm CST From: bigred EMS: INTERNET / MCI ID: 376-5414 MBX: bigred@duracef.shout.net TO: Conspiracy Nation EMS: INTERNET / MCI ID: 376-5414 MBX: CN-L@cornell.edu BCC: * David Beiter / MCI ID: 635-1762 Subject: part 39: allegations re vince foster, the NSA, and bank spying (fwd) *caveat lector*. This means, "reader beware." In other words, it is up to the reader to form her/his own judgements as to the following. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 00:54:28 -0500 (EST) From: KALLISTE@delphi.com Subject: part 39: allegations re vince foster, the NSA, and bank spying Part 39: Allegations Regarding Vince Foster, the NSA, and Banking Transactions Spying by J. Orlin Grabbe (continued from Part 38) The creation of the Fifth Column to deal with official corruption was necessitated by a confluence of several factors. 1. First of all, there is the corruption of the Justice Department itself. One couldn't simply turn over the fruits of a lot of hard investigative work, involving both financial and other information, to the Department of Justice, and expect to see justice done. The Justice Department is part and parcel of the same corrupt system. Nowhere is this more in evidence than the theft by "trickery, deceit, and fraud" (in the words of a federal bankruptcy judge) of the PROMIS software. The Justice Department is bent on discrediting, ruining, or indicting anyone who is harmful to the government's case. The Department's carrot-and-stick method of operation can be seen from the following paragrahs found in an affidavit of Michael J. Riconosciuto (March 21, 1991): "In February 1991, I had a telephone conversation with Peter Videnieks, then still employed by the U.S. Department of Justice. Videnieks attempted during this telephone conversation to persuade me not to cooperate with an independent investigation of the government's piracy of INSLAW's proprietary PROMIS software being conducted by the Committee on the Judiciary of the U.S. House of Representatives. "[Carrot:] Videnieks stated that I would be rewarded for a decision not to cooperate with the House Judiciary Committee investigation. Videnieks forecasted an immediate and favorable resolution of a protracted child custody dispute being prosecuted against my wife by her former husband, if I were to decide not to cooperate with the House Judiciary Committee investigation. "[Stick:] Videnieks also outlined specific punishments that I could expect to receive from the U.S. Department of Justice if I cooperate with the House Judiciary Committee's investigation. "[Stick #1:] One punishment that Videnieks outlined was the future inclusion of me and my father in a criminal prosecution of certain business associates of mine in Orange County, California, in connection with the operation of a savings and loan institution in Orange County. By way of underscoring his power to influence such decisions at the U.S. Department of Justice, Videnieks informed me of the indictment of these business associates prior to the time when that indictment was unsealed and made public. "[Stick #2:] Another punishment that Videnieks threatened against me if I cooperate with the House Judiciary Commitee [sic] is prosecution by the U.S. Department of Justice for perjury. Videnieks warned me that credible witnesses would come forward to contradict any damaging claims that I made in testimony before the House Judiciary Committee, and that I would subsequently be prosecuted for perjury by the U.S. Department of Justice for my testimony before the House Judiciary Committee." 2. Secondly, there is the corruption of congressional investigative bodies. "We tried in the early 90s to take the evidence to all the appropriate legislative committees," Chuck Hayes told me. "We ended up with egg all over our faces." For how do you get members of the House and Senate to investigate illegal drug-dealing, arms-dealing, and money-laundering, when many of these same people are on the take from drug dealers, arms dealers, and money launderers? Before this route would work, you would have to first root out many of the same corrupt members of congress. One way to do this would be to get them to resign, or to agree to not run for re- election, by presenting them with evidence documenting their corruption. (You would also hope for, eventually, an honest Justice Department, so these same legislators could also be prosecuted.) Over the past year, a number of Capitol Hill residents, not to mentioned state government officials and corporate executives, were visited by a very large man bearing a package containing 200 to 300 pages of financial and other documentation. They subsequently resigned, usually "to spend more time with their families." 3. Finally, there is the general inattention of the news media, and their unwillingness to do any serious investigation on their own. The media is often content to relay the content of government handouts, or to get quotes from each of two opposing sides. To actually go on a search for evidence and to subject it to hard analysis is foreign to them. The *New York Times*, for example, is not that keen on pursuing corruption in the Clinton administration. Nor has the media shown a great propensity for independent analysis of the circumstances involving the death of Ron Brown, the downing of TWA 800, or the political funding scandals associated with the Lippo Group. The Fifth Column was organized in the matter of a carefully thought-out intelligence operation. There were layers within layers. But at heart the Fifth Column is essentially a mobile computer, and the people who program it, tend to it, and run it. The computer is very powerful, necessary to do the work of correlating data from many sources. The computer must remain mobile to avoid detection and ransacking by corrupt FBI agents who are themselves targets of the Fifth Column investigation. Communication is handled by a variety of methods, including use of an earth-to-satellite signal. Bill Clinton's political Gestapo has invested considerable time and effort in an attempt to trace the computer-carrying truck. The Washington, D.C. office of the FBI sent out two cars to Kentucky that were specially equipped to vector in on a ground-to-satellite signal. They ran into problems with the local wildlife, however, including a bobcat who ripped out the interior and panel wiring in one car. (This bobcat is now alleged to be on the FBI's Ten Most Wanted list.) On another occasion, hearing that the truck was returning from Little Rock, the Department of Transportation, along with the FBI and the Secret Service, for a time stopped and searched every truck leaving Arkansas on Interstate 40. (Do you ever wonder why truckers don't love the Feds?) On a third occasion, someone started a rumour that the truck was traveling under the guise of Frito-Lay--with the consequence that every truck departing the company was stopped for inspection. The only public representative of the Fifth Column is Chuck Hayes himself. The pursuit of corruption is a deadly business. I went to Kentucky and spent a week with Hayes, and his last statement to me at the airport was: "Watch yourself. I don't want another Casolaro on my hands." Danny Casolaro was one of the few journalists Hayes respected. Hayes and Casolaro had slowly developed a relationship, and Hayes had become an important source of information for Casolaro. Hayes had tried to dissuade Casolaro from going to his final, fatal rendevous. On August 9, 1991, the last day of his life, Danny Casolaro said he had arranged a meeting with Peter Videnieks and Robert Altman to trade them some documents in which they were interested for further documents regarding the sale of the modified PROMIS software. Robert Altman was a former attorney for Bert Lance who became President of First American Bank after it was taken over by BCCI. Peter Videnieks was the Justice Department official mentioned above in Riconosciuto's affidavit, as well as a former Customs official who had cleared the PROMIS software for export. The meeting had been arranged by a covert intelligence operative of the U.S. Army Special Forces named Joseph Cuellar. A friend of Danny's had been keeping two sealed envelopes. According to a signed affidavit (which I will call the "F Affidavit," for his protection), the friend says, "On August 9, 1991, I delivered two packets of documents that I had kept for Mr. Casolaro to him in Martinsburg, W. Va. . . . Danny had told me that [the] meeting had been arranged by Joseph Cuellar. That he was to meet with someone from Sen. Byrds office and from the I.R.S., plus Peter Videnieks and Robert Altman. He was to exchange some documents that was to their interest in order to get more info on Promis. He had told me that Altman only agreed after he was told papers would be sent to Robert Morgenthau." Casolaro was found dead in Room 517 in the Martinsburg Sheraton Inn about 12:30 the following day. A person was seen leaving his room shortly before he was found dead, but the FBI never interviewed the eyewitness, nor showed her pictures of likely suspects. They were in a hurry to close the matter as one more "suicide" (much as in the later case of Vince Foster). Documentary evidence also shows that Earl Brian, the person who marketed the PROMIS software to intelligence agencies around the world, was in Martinsburg that same day. (Brian was subsequently indicted for, and convicted of, financial irregularities while he was head of three separate companies: Infotechnology, Financial News Network, and United Press International.) When the Clinton administration came into office, Attorney General Janet Reno appointed Webster Hubbell to handle the Inslaw case, as well as questions concerning Casolaro's death. Hubbell's assistant on the entire matter was Stephen Zipperstein, who was subsequently appointed to a position in the U.S. Attorney's office in Los Angeles, with a mandate to sit on the indictment of Earl Brian. (Brian was indicted by a grand jury in June 1994, but the indictment was not made public until September 1995.) That is, the Justice Dept. attorney appointed to oversee the Inslaw case and the issue of Casolero's death, was the same person appointed to protect Earl Brian--who was a principal target of the Inslaw case, and very possibly a member of the group that killed Danny Casolero. Hence the old equation: "investigation" = cover-up. At the time of his death, Casolaro had computer printouts and documents he had received from a National Security Agency (NSA) employee named Alan Standorf. These included "wire transfers (copies) of monies paid to Earl Brian and sent to shell companies in the Cayman Islands and Switzerland that came from accounts held by foreign agents and governments at the World Bank and BCCI" (*F Affidavit*). Some of the documents received from Standorf "were classified Top Secret and some had letters SCI [Sensitive Compartmented Intelligence]" (*F Affidavit*). Some time after Casolaro's death, Alan Standorf himself was found dead, having been stuffed into the trunk of a car at the National Airport in Washington, D.C. No, I would say I didn't want another Casolaro on anyone's hands any more than Hayes did. (to be continued) November 14, 1996 Web Page: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ Date: Sat Nov 23, 1996 4:45 am CST From: bigred EMS: INTERNET / MCI ID: 376-5414 MBX: bigred@duracef.shout.net TO: Conspiracy Nation EMS: INTERNET / MCI ID: 376-5414 MBX: CN-L@cornell.edu BCC: * David Beiter / MCI ID: 635-1762 Subject: CN Press Release: (3) Orlin Grabbe versus Joseph Famularo (fwd) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 00:44:10 -0500 (EST) From: KALLISTE@delphi.com Subject: (3) Orlin Grabbe versus Joseph Famularo Orlin Grabbe Versus Joseph Famularo III by J. Orlin Grabbe US Attorney Joseph Famularo now says he doesn't know what went on at the bail hearing for Chuck Hayes in London, KY, on Friday, Oct. 25. After all, he sent his assistant Martin Hatfield (606-864-5523) to ask questions of FBI agent David Keller. Famularo had more important things to do. Like prepare for Bill Clinton's visit to Lexington. Or play golf. Yes, Famularo says he did get Orlin Grabbe's faxes. But he didn't ask Martin Hatfield about them. Hatfield is much too important for that. Hatfield's even more important than Janet Reno. Hatfield is god. If Hatfield wants Famularo to know something, he'll tell him. Otherwise Famularo had better mind his own business. Yes Famularo's name is on the grand jury indictment for Chuck Hayes. But he doesn't know anything about that either. After all, he had First Assistant US Attorney Marianne What's-the-name sign that. He can't keep track of what Marianne does. Marianne's been out of control for a long time. Yes, Famularo does have that Criminal Complaint (Case #96-6101M) signed by Special Agent of the FBI David Keller, Complainant, and J.B. Johnson, Jr., Judicial Officer. That's why he sent Hatfield over. Hatfield just does whatever the FBI tells him to do. The FBI gave him a list of questions to ask. That's fine, because the FBI always tells the truth. And they always get their man, like at Waco and Ruby Ridge, and with Richard Jewell in the Atlanta bombing. Besides, David Keller has a nice ass. No, Joseph Famularo is not responsible for what goes on in the US Attorney's office. Usually he just lets Wanda Roberts run things. Or the janitor. Or the janitor's dog. Famularo isn't responsible for any of the cases. Or for any of the questions asked in court. Or for the quality of the evidence. Or for anything the FBI says or does. Yes, Joseph Famularo is kind of like Max Headroom. His mind is a blank slate, a tabula rasa. He sees nothing. He hears nothing. He knows nothing. Except, of course, when it comes to the identity of Chuck Hayes and Orlin Grabbe. Famularo knows they are the same person. He's got the cash to prove it. November 21, 1996 Web Page: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ Date: Sat Dec 07, 1996 6:28 pm CST From: bigred EMS: INTERNET / MCI ID: 376-5414 MBX: bigred@shout.net TO: Conspiracy Nation EMS: INTERNET / MCI ID: 376-5414 MBX: CN-L@cornell.edu BCC: * David Beiter / MCI ID: 635-1762 Subject: Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 9 Num. 79 The following is brought to you thanks, in part, to the kind assistance of CyberNews and the fine folks at Cornell University. Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 9 Num. 79 ====================================== ("Quid coniuratio est?") ----------------------------------------------------------------- CHARLES S. HAYES CONSTITUTIONAL NATIONAL SECURITY ALERT ======================================================= In CN 9.59 was posted info from a source "known to me not to be a lightweight." The following communique comes from that same source. I don't know whether I'm free to reveal his name. I can give some insight on him by pointing to a video of a lecture given by retired NYPD vice squad detective James Rothstein: in that tape, Rothstein mentions that, on his way to Oklahoma City to privately investigate the Murrah Building bombings, he stopped in a certain city to pick up this person and bring him along. Here is the latest info, received today, 12/7/96, from the un-named source, henceforth (for future reference) given the code name "Mr. Boderby." + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + THREE OPTIONS WERE PRESENTED TO BOY BILL, in order to accomplish his departure, owing to Boy Bill [Clinton] using 5+ lines of coke per day. These options, among others, were detailed to Boy Bill by Robert Strauss (in an ashtray smashing meeting with Boy Bill) and by Chuck Hayes in a more recent, more calm, meeting with Boy Bill at a small airport in Kentucky. First Option ------------ 1. Easiest and best for Boy Bill: let wife be scandalized (Whitewater indicted) as indirect, non-personal reason for stepping down. Second Option ------------- 2. Direct personal emergency 25th Amendment bi-partisan and medical committee declaration of presidential unfitness owing to 5+ lines of personal cocaine use per day by Boy Bill. Third Option ------------ 3. Direct personal responsibility for *Mena*, Arkansas massive cocaine drug importation and nationwide distribution during governorship and continuing into presidency. Detailed data of option 1 and general data concerning options 2 and 3 (thru the first week of 96 *December*) follow: I. -- Option 1 was chosen owing to a desire to not too obviously duplicate still-remembered USA history. Sufficient world powers agreed to eliminate Kennedy, therefore he was assassinated; however it was too recently done to assassinate Nixon, therefore it was agreed for Nixon to be directly personally scandalized out of office (Watergate). Nixon was too recent to directly personally scandalize Boy Bill, therefore certain powers agreed to eliminate Boy Bill by indirect family (wife) scandalization. The scandal being in major part financial crimes (Whitewater). The counter-strike, possibly death knell, to this Option 1 is the 96/Dec/3 decision to let convicted felon Charles Keating go scott free on all convictions for all financial crimes. The Keating federal and state financial crimes jury convictions were the model, plan, precedent for wife's [Hillary's] planned financial crimes indictment and intended jury conviction if necessary. However, the following White House counter-strike has intervened into planned Option 1: 1(a). 96/April, J. Reno Dept. of Injustice sudden decision to drop all lesser charges still pending as to Keating financial crimes. 1(b). 96/April, J. Reno Dept. of Injustice sudden urgent need for a marathon 7-hour (183 pages) deposition of Chuck Hayes on a case well over 10 years old (Inslaw). (There is a saying in the covert world: set the trap; then, *wait 6 months!*) Note Dates: ----------- (1) 96/Oct/3 (6 months later), Bond allowed for convicted felon Keating (on all state and federal convictions). (2) 96/Oct/3, Bond allowed "*in* *advance*" of any decision. (3) 96/Oct/9, Signed but not made public, grand jury indictments of wife [Hillary] suddenly called back for urgent re-wording and re-signing; the Fifth Column's only public figure, Chuck Hayes, involved in writing/re-writing wife indictments. (4) Whether the re-writing and re-signing allegedly completed by 96/Oct/18 ever will be made public or will be forever suppressed owing to the amazing co-incidental timing of the incredibly corrupt Keating 96/Oct/3 bond and 96/Dec/3 decision made up from reasoning scraped off the floor of a horse barn remains to be seen. (5) 96/Oct/22, Chuck Hayes swooped on, false arrested, by unchartered FBI SWAT team. (6) 96/Oct/22, "No bond" written into false arrest warrant for an alleged "*attempt*" to do something that never happened -- before any bond hearing. Remarkably, Keating with multiple felony jury convictions for crimes fully perpetrated in separate state and federal courts was given bond on 96/Oct/3 with no hearing decision. (7) 96/Oct/25, Hayes kangaroo alleged hearing -- "No bond" allowed. (8) 96/Oct/28, Wildly inaccurate "Hayes" alleged court findings by J.B. Johnson magistrate judge issued, based on 96/Oct/25 kangaroo hearing -- "No bond" is the order!!! (9) 96/Nov/22, Magistrate Judge J.B. Johnson motion hearing -- "No bond" repeated, but bond matter referred in open court in front of 50+ witnesses to federal Judge Barbara Coffman for full hearing. Ironically, this is the very day Bob Strauss sponsored and hosted leading Communist Russian General Aleksandr Lebed on Lebed's first trip to the USA. (10) 96/Nov/26, Barbara Coffman orders corrections in 96/Oct/28 alleged findings owing to gross errors but "*without hearing*" on specific issue of bond. Barbara Coffman went out of her way to announce, apparently on orders from "above," that she is in lockstep -- "No bond" -- and further, "no bond" hearing would be allowed to commence despite 96 hours earlier J.B. Johnson had announced in front of 50 witnesses that a bond hearing would be commenced in front of Barbara Coffman upon motion of Chuck Hayes, which motion was filed on 96/Nov/22 for 96/Nov/26 hearing, but immediately denied out of hand without hearing by Barbara Coffman on 96/Nov/26. (11a) 96/Dec/3, Keating set free; decision based on alleged "jury contamination." That is, that the Keating scandal was so well known and so well publicized that the jurors had heard of the matter in advance of the trial (hearing of the matter somehow equals "contaminated"), therefore, each and every conviction in separate state and federal courts was thereby overturned by one lower-level federal judge, Marianne Pfeizer, in one all-inclusive mysterious decision. Most probably any and every juror could be claimed to be contaminated because it could be claimed that any person has heard of Keating and/or financial crimes such as Whitewater. Under this corrupt false decision, wife [Hillary] could never be tried by any USA juror because any and every adult in our USA could be claimed to have heard of wife and Whitewater. (11b) 96/Dec/2 had been date pre-set at the time of false arrest to commence Chuck Hayes' jury trial on a false arrest in the last week of Oct. (with no discovery and the alleged criminal charge itself not provided to the false arrest victim for over five weeks after arrest.) (12) Much of Chuck Hayes' efforts and the Fifth Column's perilous and life-threatening labors of many months have now been reduced to ashes by one more female federal black-robed Hillary covencat, Marianne Pfeizer, spellcasting onto the men of the Fifth Column: "Ashes, ashes, all fall down!!" II. --- With regard to Option 2, amazingly coincidental with the timing of the Option 1 defensive White House counter-strike corrupt Keating court decision is that the very same day (96/Dec/3), Fifth Column offensive Option 2 was put into play on nationwide radio, print, lengthy focused coverage by major TV, on Dr. O'Toole and the bi-partisan joint medical committee set up in the recent past to deal with a potential emergency 25th Amendment problem during the Nixon administration and how the same emergency mechanism is now in place during this Boy Bill current administration. Unblessedly, a counter-measure to a 25th Amendment emergency bi-partisan joint medical committee is an even greater war power emergency such as a plague, natural disaster, military action inside or outside USA, triggering a martial law declaration. III. ---- The counter-measure being put into play to the #3 "*Mena*" option is a re-hearing of the Noriega appeal and a re-trial, with the plan being that coverage of that situation focusing on the Bush/Ollie crack cocaine (San Jose Mercury) epidemic would dwarf any Mena exposure. Another recent remarkable "*Mena*" co-incidence as to Noriega and Option 3, for over 200 years every foreign extradition type of case was held in D.C. federal circuit. The Noriega case was held in the Janet Reno origin and controlled Miami court, also the jurisdiction of Homestead Air Force base (Florida), where USA pentagramagon joint chief's boss, Communist General Shalikashvilli's underling Air Force generals (such as General Cherry, now in Kentucky) and Jeb Bush met the dope-laden USA Air Force planes coming in from Panama. With the unconstitutional and improper Reno Dept. of Injustice-arranged Florida venue Noriega trial, one might expect an improper Florida appeal, or if any effort at a false appearance of proper procedure were made, one might expect a D.C. appeal. Under our current Dept. of Injustice, however, the case was recently assigned to the fixed venue that corruptly covered up the $5 billion agricultural credits from George Bush to Clayton Yeuter (US Dept. of Ag.) to BNL (Banco Nacional de Lavoro, Italy) to Matrix Churchill (London) to weapons for Saddam Hussein used to kill Americans and Arabs in the Gulf War. The BNL case, that was only recently completed with records hidden, is known as the BNL/Atlanta case owing to the BNL/Atlanta branch being used in part to transfer $5 billion in Agricultural credits into arms for our USA pentagramagon imposter usurper generals, admirals, and other merchants of death. It is to this same internationally corrupt fixed venue, Atlanta, that the Noriega re-hearing, without any constitutional reason in fact or law, has been recently mysteriously assigned. A gory irony to all of these machinations is that the chief beneficiaries of an upcoming absent Boy Bill are the principalities and powers behind Shalikashvilli, Lebed, Armand Hammer and Sickle, Bob Strauss, and their chief anti-Christ Communist asset in place, Al Gore. Our Father in Heaven, to whom we prayed this Thanksgiving in order to give thanks for our great nation, needs to hear our continuing prayers until our nation is safe from *enemies* both foreign and *DOMESTIC*. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Views expressed do not necessarily reflect those of Conspiracy Nation, nor of its Editor in Chief. ----------------------------------------------------------------- I encourage distribution of "Conspiracy Nation." ----------------------------------------------------------------- If you would like "Conspiracy Nation" sent to your e-mail address, send a message in the form "subscribe cn-l My Name" to listproc@cornell.edu (Note: that is "CN-L" *not* "CN-1") ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information on how to receive the improved Conspiracy Nation Newsletter, send an e-mail message to bigred@shout.net ----------------------------------------------------------------- Want to know more about Whitewater, Oklahoma City bombing, etc? 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Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 9 Num. 94 ====================================== ("Quid coniuratio est?") ----------------------------------------------------------------- LOOSE THREADS ============= You may not understand all this. *I* certainly don't. If you are a newcomer to reading Conspiracy Nation (CN), you will probably be even moreso in the dark. What follows are lines of inquiry, "loose threads," in a developing story. For further background, readers are referred to the CN archives at ftp.shout.net in sub-directory pub/users/bigred and to Professor J. Orlin Grabbe's archives. See especially the Grabbe material available at http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html More background to this story will be provided soon in CN. Loose Thread #1 --------------- On November 11, 1996, The Washington Weekly (http://www.federal.com) published a story, based on a recently declassified National Security Agency (NSA) document, "Vince Foster Involved in NSA Computer Espionage Issues." It reports on a May 1993 meeting involving Bernard Nussbaum, Vincent Foster, Webster Hubbell, John Rogovin, and Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens. The secret meeting was held at NSA headquarters. The presence of Foster at the meeting, in which cryptology and intelligence gathering were the topics, shows that Foster was on the inside of top secret NSA intelligence discussions. Yet, according to the article from the Washington Weekly, the White House has tried to conceal Foster's ties to NSA. Then, by November 18, 1996, The Washington Weekly had obtained an additional 540 pages of documents from NSA in response to a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request. The information showed that the U.S. Embassy in London had been highly interested in stories, regarding the by now deceased Vince Foster, being reported in British newspapers. The embassy was sending their then-secret reports to, among several U.S. agencies, the National Security Agency. In "Plot to Spy on Banks Outlined in White House Email," Professor Grabbe includes a document declassified by the National Archives on August 22, 1994. In that document, a memo from David Wigg to Oliver North, North's connection to the tracking of "financial flows... through the 400 or so principal banks that make up the interbank market" is pointed to. In other words, a plan to spy on banks was in the works. Oliver North as moneyman is also shown in an article by Gene Tatum, "A CIA Funding Operation." (See CN 9.93) In that report, Tatum claims that "North delivered $4 billion in U.S. currency to Iran. Iran gave North $8 billion in super bills in exchange for the $4 billion in good U.S. currency. North then delivered the $8 billion in super bills back to the Banco Nacional de Panama." Loose Thread #2 --------------- In CN 9.90, I mentioned that I had been contacted by someone who urged a prompt meeting at the Indiana border. This person has been previously-mentioned in CN: "Mr. Boderby" (not his real name.) Working to facilitate the meeting was "Mr. Royce" (not his real name; see my interview of Joseph Andreuccetti, archived at the prairienet site, for mention of "Mr. Royce," who dined with myself, Sherman Skolnick, and Joseph Andreuccetti at a restaurant in Calumet City, Illinois, in April of 1995. The relevant material is accessed as follows: (a) telnet prairienet.org (b) logon as "visitor" (c) "go citcom" (d) look in the Whitewater sub-menu for "The Andreuccetti Affair.") Loose Thread #3 --------------- This past week I received via U.S. mail a document, from "Mr. Boderby," purporting to be an article written by J. Orlin Grabbe, "The FBI Conspiracy Against Chuck Hayes." *If* Grabbe is the actual author, the former Wharton professor is saying that "The highest levels of the FBI are engaged in a conspiracy to obstruct justice by denying Charles S. Hayes the right to legal representation, by denying him the right to any discovery materials, and by denying him the opportunity to prepare a defense." Hayes is supposedly a deep-level former and/or current intelligence operative who has been acting as a renegade, working against government corruption and without the blessing of that same government. Regardless of unsavoury connections, Hayes is entitled to the same due process protections as any other citizen. Or can the government now just deny due process to whomever it wishes, then ameliorate the outrage by merely leaking that, "It's O.K. This guy was with the CIA?" In the document sent to me by "Boderby" and apparently written by Grabbe, we learn that as of November 22, 1996, Chuck Hayes has as his legal representative a man named Jim Vassilos. I can't give the specifics of the connection, but Vassilos *is* connected to "Mr. Boderby." Another loose thread is Vassilos's connection to ex-NYPD Vice Squad Detective James Rothstein. In a videotape of a lecture by Rothstein, he mentions that Vassilos accompanied him on a trip he made to Oklahoma City with purpose of privately investigating the April 19, 1995 bombings at the Murrah Building. Loose Thread #4 --------------- In a conversation today (Jan. 5, 1997) with Sherman Skolnick, the Chicago investigator voiced suspicion of alternative journalists who suddenly "popped up from nowhere" around the time of the Oklahoma City bombings. This was in response to my own question as to Skolnick's assertion that the controversial Hayes/Norman/Grabbe "Angel of Death" story is just a melodramatic embellishment of Skolnick's previous material. Skolnick says he has no private vendetta against either Grabbe, Norman, or Hayes, but that their embellishment of his story is subtly misleading. Regarding Mr. Norman, Skolnick thinks that he was a "babe in the woods" in espionage matters when he was taken in by Hayes's manipulation. Regarding Grabbe, Skolnick puts him in the category of those who "popped up from nowhere" around the time of the OKC bombings. Did Grabbe suddenly appear on Internet right about that time? I don't recall. Professor Grabbe will perhaps respond by hinting, as he has to me in the past, that Skolnick is somehow connected to the Mossad. Anticipating this reaction, I asked Mr. Skolnick how he would respond to that. Skolnick pointed out that, just because he is a traditional Jew, that doesn't necessarily mean he is involved with the Mossad. He further pointed out that, in the past, he has been a leading critic of the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) and that as far back as 1970 he had identified ADL as a spy operation with links to the FBI. For its part, according to Skolnick, ADL contends that the Chicago underground journalist is a renegade Jew out to damage Israel. ADL has even tried to block his popular cable television program, says Skolnick. My own thinking on this is that to label Mr. Skolnick as involved with the Mossad, based only on the fact that he is Jewish, is something unworthy of a keen intellect such as Grabbe's. The "embellishment" of Skolnick's material is summarized by him as follows. James Norman had been calling Skolnick from time to time. Among Norman's questions were inquiries as to Skolnick's "BCCI bribe list" story. Norman reportedly asked Skolnick, in relation to his publication on Internet of the names of 22 U.S. Senators allegedly involved, "You've got a story on the BCCI bribe list with *22* names? Where are the other names?" Skolnick says he had published an incomplete list of names as a way to test Norman and others. Norman reportedly read some of the remaining names. Skolnick's complete list of names *had* been faxed to The Spotlight in 1991 but Spotlight did not publish the actual list of names, just the general story itself. It seems likely that part of the actual list found its way from there into Norman's hands. How is the Norman/Grabbe/Hayes "embellishment" of Skolnick's story misleading? One thing said to be wrong is the assertion that Hayes and the "Fifth Column" did not keep the appropriated money for itself, but rather turned it over to a U.S. Treasury holding account. In an interview I had with retired detective Rothstein, he also expressed skepticism about that aspect of the story. Mr. Skolnick's sources contend that no such money was transferred to a Treasury holding account. But more fundamentally, the story is partly wrong in that it diverts attention from the Bank of England and from Cayman Islands financial nuclei and focuses on Swiss banks. The BCCI bribe list was reportedly accidentally made available to the public for 30 days (until the mistake of making the list public was rectified) at the Bank of England. *This*, says Skolnick, is the real story; that U.S. Congresspersons had been bought off by BCCI, with many trails of that corruption leading to *London*. It is widely known that BCCI *did* in fact spread its money around with said purpose. The widespread retirements by U.S. Senators and Representatives, with so many saying they have decided they want to "spend more time with their families," may have been due to pressure from news outlets knowledgeable about the said "BCCI bribe list." It appears *that* possibility of imminent exposure by news outlets, and not a masked "Lone Ranger" (Hayes) and his helper "Tonto" (Norman), is the real cause of the recent wave of retirements in Washington, D.C. Mr. Skolnick says that persons wanting to subtly twist his stories to their own purposes is not new to him. When he had begun reporting his stories on Bill Clinton's trip to Moscow during his student days, Skolnick perceived pressure from Media Bypass Magazine to play up the angle of "Clinton is a communist." 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Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 9 Num. 95 ====================================== ("Quid coniuratio est?") ----------------------------------------------------------------- NOTES OF MEETINGS/CONVERSATIONS ON INSLAW & FOSTERGATE (10/21/95) ================================================================= By "Mr. Mercedes" (Pseudonym) ----------------------------- When James Norman wrote the Forbes 1/31/95 cover story, "Oil, Guns & Greed" where he had worked for five years and was a Senior Editor at a $100,000 year salary. The focus of this cover story was Carlos Cardoen, a Chilean arms merchant who sold hundreds of millions of dollars worth of cluster bombs and other weapons to Iraq, while using Chase Manhattan Bank to finance his operation through "set up" oil trades and with the full cooperation and knowledge of DCI [Director of Central Intelligence] Bill Gates. He probably had no idea where it would lead and that 6 months later he would be abruptly fired on 8/16 and less than a week after I told him in person that he should expect to be fired quite soon because of what he had written outside of Forbes and because of what he was continuing to investigate. The Cardoen story led Norman to Harry Wechsler, Pres. of Boston Systematics and, purportedly, a former CIA and/or Mossad agent who has also been selling Inslaw's bootlegged and bugged enhanced PROMIS software around the world. Wechsler was also a key person involved in pulling off the October Surprise for the Israelis, according to Lt. Commander Alexander Martin (Ret.), who was involved in many 1980s covert ops as an aide to General Richard Secord (Ret.), and is now assisting with the investigations of the House Whitewater Committee. Wechsler's daughter, Dana, has been a senior editor at Forbes for 6-7 years, a CIA contract employee, and both have been sources for James Norman. The big question is, did they feed Norman disinformation to direct him away from Wechsler's key role in the illegal sale of PROMIS from his subsidiary company, Israeli Systematics. This article led Norman into [investigating] government software theft and espionage, covert activities of computerized money laundering and drugs and arms dealing, interweaving a cast of characters, government agencies and companies which include: Inslaw, the CIA, NSA, Mossad, Vince Foster, Webster Hubbell, Robert Maxwell, Arkansas billionaire Jackson Stephens, Systematics (Jackson Stephens-owned company and now merged into Alltel with Stephen's 8 percent interest), numerous secret Swiss bank accounts, which lead right up to and included Bill and Hillary Clinton, and former Presidents Reagan and Bush, all sown together with a thread called PROMIS (Prosecutor's Management Information Systems) software. The intent of this report is to present evidence and leads, without pre-conceived notions or hidden agendas, which should be objectively investigated and reported by unbiased journalists in order to honestly verify or refute the information of James Norman and others. This document doesn't presume to be the final word, but it is an attempt to lay out possible evidence and people within the Clinton administration, Park Police, Department of Justice, [which] Kenneth Starr's investigations and the Senate and House Whitewater/Foster hearings should be investigating. One of the most invisible and invincible central figures in this cast is Jackson Stephens. He has been a major contributor to Bush, loaned the Clinton Election Committee a critical $2 million from his family's Worthen Bank (Stephens recently had it purchased by the larger Boatsman Bank of St. Louis, thus ending a Federal Reserve investigation), and is now, of all things, the Finance Chairman for Bob Dole. Stephens is an investor in or owner of numerous companies such as Beverly Enterprises (a major national nursing home chain and one of Earl Brian's numerous companies; Earl Brian, another central figure, will be described later), and two Arkansas newspapers, the Northwest Arkansas Times and the Morning News of Northwest Arkansas. He was also the original front man for BCCI in the late 1970s when he tried to get them (M. Potts, N. Kochan & R. Whittington, "Dirty Money: The Inside Story of BCCI" and John Beaty "Outlaw Bank: BCCI") into the U.S. through the purchase of First American (Wall Street Journal article, 8/7/95, "Who is Dan Lasater," Wall Street Journal 2-page profile article, ?/?/93, and Monetary & Economic Review 6/92 article, "Clinton Selected to be Next President"), prior to Clark Clifford and Roger Altman getting involved through First American Bank. Despite Mike Wallace's "60 Minutes" 10/18 shoddy and slanted hatch-job report on journalist Christopher Ruddy and Lisa Foster's New Yorker 9/11/95 "conspiracy rebuttal" article, a big mystery still remains as to whether or not all or some of these elements and inter-related people came together to cause the death of Vince Foster. As Chicago investigative reporter Sherman Skolnick states, Lisa Foster's "cover-up" story should be seriously questioned. In his 9/11/95 "The Money Trail" release, Skolnick reports that Lisa Foster received $285,000 just 4 days prior to Vince Foster's death from bank heir Richard Mellon Scaife, who passed it through Sheila Foster Anthony (Vince Foster's sister and former Congressman Beryl Anthony's wife). Furthermore, it just so happens that Sheila Foster Anthony is in a very important Department of Justice section which is involved in appointments of Federal Judges, U.S. Attorneys, and U.S. Marshalls. Also, Richard Mellon Scaife is facing possible prosecution on alleged federal banking regulations violations (Sarah McClendon's Washington Report, 9/5/95). Additionally, when Lisa Foster was questioned by the FBI on 5/1/94, she raised doubts about Vince Foster's so-called "suicide note." She stated that Vince Foster had written it on or about 7/11/93 and they were his talking points for a scheduled meeting on 7/22/93 with the President and an upcoming Congressional hearing, neither of which Vince Foster kept since he was already conveniently dead on 7/20. Additionally that so-called last "relaxation weekend" at major Clinton and Democratic fundraiser Nathan Landau's shore estate with Webster Hubbell and others was a "damage control" session, bugged by the CIA, for the impending scandal described below in which Vince Foster was under investigation for espionage. Besides all the forensic and crime scene discrepancies and the apparent "cover-up" by the White House personnel's inappropriate actions after Foster's death, there was a significant discrepancy with the gun Vince Foster supposedly shot himself with and the "silver colored gun" which Lisa Foster also told the FBI that Vince had brought with him from Arkansas. (Mike Blair's "Foster Gun, Note Questions" Spotlight 8/21/95). If Vince Foster was shot with the "silver colored gun" which was found in the park near his body, why did Lisa Foster find another gun in its place on the very night after his death? And finally, in addition to all the other mysterious evidence found on or around his body, why did ballistics and forensics experts find that Vince Foster was shot by a turn-of-the-century Colt .38 caliber Army revolver? James Norman completed his Vince Foster story for Forbes in April of 1995 and it was ready for publication in the May issue, after being thoroughly checked and edited, but [it] was pulled after receiving an April 25 letter from the White House Press Secretary, Michael McCurry. Norman was then given permission to have his article published by another magazine (Media Bypass Magazine, 8/95, "Fostergate") if he withheld his Forbes affiliation. He has just come out with a followup article, "Fostergate II" in the 10/95 [Media Bypass] issue. Norman claims he was fired for continuing to investigate the Vince Foster story, which led back to Forbes' Chairman Emeritus and former Secretary of Defense, Caspar Weinberger. Forbes' media relations person, Ray Healy, claimed that "James Norman resigned and that he was a good journalist and they would miss him," but because of their editorial policy he would not comment on anything written outside of Forbes. In the process of investigating the Vince Foster story, Norman came into contact with Charles "Chuck" Hayes, purportedly a former CIA agent with S1 clearance (highest level) with a codename of "Running Fox." In my interview with him, he claims to have been involved in the CIA's Cuba covert ops to run weapons into Castro to overthrow Pres. Batista. Hayes stated that he knew George Bush as the CIA's paymaster as far back as 1958, all of which he [Bush] denies (see [J. Edgar] Hoover 1963 letter which refers to Bush of CIA). On one occasion, he [Hayes] claims to have put a gun into Bush's mouth in order to get him to pay up. [CN: Bush reportedly leaked in his pants at that point.] While serving in Vietnam in covert ops, Hayes disobeyed orders and flew his jet fighter into Hanoi and took out a SAM missile storage depot. On a Mena, Arkansas arms flight to the Contras, he discovered coke [cocaine] stored in the belly of his plane and dumped it on the awaiting covert team at the airport while avoiding being shot down by them. 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Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 9 Num. 96 ====================================== ("Quid coniuratio est?") ----------------------------------------------------------------- NOTES OF MEETINGS/CONVERSATIONS ON INSLAW & FOSTERGATE (10/21/95) ================================================================= By "Mr. Mercedes" (Pseudonym) ----------------------------- [...continued...] Recently, he [Chuck Hayes] settled a suit with the Government over buying used government computers with sensitive software (maybe even PROMIS), wherein they paid him around $200,000 just to keep him quiet. Supposedly, Chuck Hayes was one of the founders of the CIA's Division D which developed and used new spying techniques of electronic bugging for the last 15 years. He is also supposed to be part of this group of contractors for the CIA called the Fifth Column. Back in August '95, Hayes also assisted the Meadows family by investigating their claim against the Mellon bank and coming up with internal bank documents which were presented in a Pittsburgh court. Several Internet J. Orlin Grabbe reports over the last few months appear to have a lot of input from Chuck Hayes, especially Part 28 ["NSA, Banks and Foster," see http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html for details] on our missile defense network and the latest one from 10/15, Part 29, which describes much of the money laundering activities and covert ops of the 1980s. I'm sure the Intelligence Agencies, Pentagon, Congress and the Clinton Administration are eagerly awaiting -- not! -- the next amazing revelations in Part 30, 31, 32, etc., that is if Chuck Hayes isn't "taken out" first for just one too many revelations. Other sources for James Norman's story and/or this report include: Jimmy Rothstein (the subject of former Daily News/Village Voice reporter Bill Sherman's book, "Times Square," recounting his years as a former NYPD Vice cop who was forced to retire because he got too close to the "big boys" and has assisted with the U.S. Customs' Inslaw investigation), Cheri Seymour (author and investigative journalist; Spotlight 4-part series 3/3/95), and Michael Riconosciuto (recruited into CIA after graduating from Stanford University at the age of 17 and involved in numerous CIA ops, including arms dealing operations with Iran and a meth amphetamine lab on the Cabazon Indian Reservation in Yuma, Arizona, and now serving 32 years in Fed. Prison on a "set up" drug bust.) Many government officials and journalists have attempted and mostly succeeded in their campaign to wrongfully discredit Riconosciuto as they have done with so many other important witnesses, either for ulterior motives or because they never bothered to check him out personally and just relied on other people's rumors and written dis- or misinformation. Jimmy Rothstein and Cheri Seymour are the only people to personally investigate and confirm Riconosciuto's involvement in numerous CIA covert ops at Yuma Proving Grounds, in Lebanon and elsewhere around the world. Rothstein discovered that Riconosciuto and associates were arrested near Yuma by a highway patrolman for having a Stinger missile in their car for which then-Attorney General Edward Meese had to personally call to get them released and arrest record destroyed. (James Rothstein letter to Brooks Committee which never brought out this information in the Inslaw hearings) Additional sources also include: John Belton (Canadian businessman whose company he worked for was ripped off for $50 million by Earl Brian (author of 5-page report in Elliot Richardson's addendum rebuttal to Bua's report), Miguel Rodriguez (former Kenneth Starr investigator who resigned under protest and claimed there was a cover-up), Ari Ben-Menashe (Israeli involved in October Surprise), Richard Babayan (Iranian involved in October Surprise), Bob Bickel (undercover Customs investigator in the 1980s), Gene Wheaton (former investigator with Special Prosecutor Walsh on Iran-Contra, investigator for families on Gander plane crash), Juval Aviv (former Mossad agent, head of his own Private Investigating firm, Interfor, consultant on terrorism to "60 Minutes" and ABC News who has been hit with a U.S. government "harassment" criminal perjury action on his claim that rogue CIA agents caused the Pan Am Flight 103 crash), as well as a number of unnamed sources within the government, intelligence community, computer experts, and other investigative journalists, such as Sherman Skolnick (newsletters "Secret Report Links Foster to Pollard" and "The Money Trail"), Virginia McCullough (sued by Chief of Cabazon Indians for libel over her statements about CIA's covert ops on Reservation, but was paid off to "shut up"), and Danny Casolaro (died under mysterious circumstances while working on his book "The Octopus" about Inslaw and former Dept. of Justice Attorney Mike Abbel, but whose extensive notes speak to us from beyond the grave). Purportedly, under this CIA/NSA group of "Division D," the government has been illegally mass producing software from various companies like Microsoft. The government antitrust suit against Microsoft is a pressure tactic against Microsoft in an attempt to counteract claims for non-payment on massive amounts of bugged and bootlegged software. When Martin Marrieta purchased GE Aerospace, the CIA operation was moved to another one of their facilities. It has been reported that $8 billion/year in pirated software is sold around the world out of a total $17 billion/year (New York Times 8/24/95, Financial Times of London 8/19/95, and the New York Post 8/22/95). This computer operation is in addition to the CIA's purported ongoing and extensive operations of smuggling and selling drugs and arms, which help to fund other covert ops through these illegal activities. Some of these CIA ops include: Air America's Viet Nam smuggling (Jonathan Kwitney's "Crimes of Patriots" and Bo Gritz's "Nation Betrayed" video and book about Golden Triangle war lord Khun Sa and Richard Armitage), Columbian Cartel/Iran-Contras/Mena airport smuggling, and Lebanon's Baca Valley heroin smuggling, which may have been the real reason for the Pan Am 103 crash (Joel Bainerman's, "The Crimes of a President: Conspiracy and Cover-up in Bush and Reagan Administration," Lester Coleman's, "On the Trail of the Octopus," and BBC-aired documentary, "The Maltese Double Cross"), also Iraq (Alan Friedman's "Spider's Web"), Iran, Afghanistan, El Salvador and Nicaraguan, etc., secret arms sales ops are more dangerous, not to mention the enormous human suffering and deaths they have caused. Keep in mind that there have been numerous movies ("Air America"), books (T. Ross and D. Wise's 1964 book, "The Invisible Government" and John Prados "Presidents Secret Wars: CIA and Pentagon Covert Ops") and articles (Wall Street Journal, Covert Action Quarterly, Penthouse, and Spotlight) by or about former CIA agents and military involved in these illegal Agency-approved operations. Some of these include the Nugan Hand Bank (Penny Lernoux's Penthouse article and book, "Blood Money,") Oliver North, former-Director of Central Intelligence Bill Casey, former CIA agent Ted Shackley ("Blonde Ghost" by David Korn), Gary Sick's "October Surprise," Bob Parry's "Trick or Treason," Ari Ben-Menashe's "Profits of War," Rodney Stich's "Defrauding America," and former Houston Post reporter Pete Brewton's "The Mafia, the CIA, and George Bush," Peter Dale Scott's "War Conspiracy" and "Cocaine Politics," Linda Hunt's "Secret Agenda," and former DEA agents Celerino Castillo's "Powder Burns" and Michael Levine's "The Big White Lie," CIA agent and arms dealer to Libya Edwin P. Wilson (Joseph C. Goulden's "The Death Merchant,") DEA informant and drug and arms smuggler Barry Seal (HBO movie, Roger Morris and Sally Denton 7/95 Penthouse "Crimes of Mena," Terry Reed's and John Cummings's "Compromised: Clinton, Bush and the CIA"), etc. [...to be continued...] ----------------------------------------------------------------- Views expressed do not necessarily reflect those of Conspiracy Nation, nor of its Editor in Chief. ----------------------------------------------------------------- I encourage distribution of "Conspiracy Nation." ----------------------------------------------------------------- If you would like "Conspiracy Nation" sent to your e-mail address, send a message in the form "subscribe cn-l My Name" to listproc@cornell.edu (Note: that is "CN-L" *not* "CN-1") ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information on how to receive the improved Conspiracy Nation Newsletter, send an e-mail message to bigred@shout.net ----------------------------------------------------------------- Want to know more about Whitewater, Oklahoma City bombing, etc? 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Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 9 Num. 97 ====================================== ("Quid coniuratio est?") ----------------------------------------------------------------- NOTES OF MEETINGS/CONVERSATIONS ON INSLAW & FOSTERGATE (10/21/95) ================================================================= By "Mr. Mercedes" (Pseudonym) ----------------------------- [...continued...] By the way, the Washington Post supposedly paid many thousands of dollars to Roger Morris and Sally Denton for their story on Mena, but after 11 weeks of delays they pulled it because they felt they were getting jacked around and got Bob Guccione to publish it in Penthouse 7/95. Also, Terry Reed has a book coming out on Barry Seal/Mena, Arkansas. Another book project now underway is the story of the CIA's drug op in New York with NYPD cop and "made man" "Big Al" Carone, former Colonel in Army Intel. Carone was the "bagman" for NYPD, friend of DCI Bill Casey, and "banker" for the CIA's drugs op from 1946-80 (died of "CIA flu"), along with other "bagmen" associates, Russell Herman (also died of "CIA flu") and "fixer/briber" Al Hobert and NYPD "dirty" cop Gene Howard who were all "on the take." Two more CIA drug smuggling ops reports were broadcast on TV. One program was done by Mike Wallace of "60 Minutes" which re-broadcast his 2-year-old report on 9/3/95 about a Venezuelan Cartel/CIA supposed cocaine smuggling sting operation. Unfortunately, this CIA op allowed many millions of dollars of powder to hit the streets of America, without ever busting anyone. The other one was a British TV Ch. 4 broadcast of the suppressed "The Maltese Doublecross" documentary on Pan Am 103's heroin smuggling operation which presented witnesses and evidence which showed that this may very well have been the real reason for the bomb explosion which killed all passengers on board. As for the CIA/NSA computer operation, it would appear that it is relatively new and extremely lucrative. Estimates of just how profitable this operation is range into the hundreds of millions of dollars, which goes to funding "off the books" Black Ops, now that Congress, with only a slightly higher degree of scrutiny, has cut back on their funding. James Norman, Bill Hamilton and many others state that in the early 1980s the government expropriated Inslaw's revolutionary and proprietary PROMIS software after Bill Hamilton had created an advanced version of PROMIS which was originally developed while he was at the NSA. It was based on computer aided software engineering technologies which used software to create and modify software, thus enabling PROMIS to be modified to a multitude of applications because of its inherent versatility and adaptability. The government realized its numerous applications such as applying it to the secret purpose of tracking down terrorist money in international banking. The CIA, with operatives such as Oliver North and Ted Shackley, purportedly used this very "adaptable" PROMIS to create secret bank accounts through "computerized money laundering" for the purpose of financing CIA covert ops, such as Iran-Contra and Iraqgate. This led to another application, wherein the NSA/CIA used it to create a compromised universal banking system which could be secretly accessed by their bugged software, sold by NSA "front companies" to unsuspecting banks, which allowed them [NSA/CIA] to access secret accounts anywhere around the world. Additionally, specially designed NSA chips have been placed in computers, along with Inslaw's stolen PROMIS Plus, which are then sold through these NSA "front companies," such as Systematics, Boston Systematics, Hadron and Israeli Systematics and agents, such as Robert Maxwell, to strategic and highly sensitive ally and enemy customers alike. (Related articles and info: Time 8/19/95 "Onward Cyber Soldier," New York Times 8/19 "Citibank Fraud Case Raises Computer Questions," Wall Street Journal's and Wang Laboratories' John A. Dean 3/3/95 letter to DCI John Woolsley.) Purportedly, these bugged computers are set up to transmit their sensitive information within by data bursts up to low-flying NSA satellites. Inslaw and their Atlanta law firm, with the assistance of attorney Eliott Richardson (Pres. Nixon's former Attorney General who resigned in protest over Watergate), are preparing to go back into the Court of Federal Claims in December '95 after a more than 10-year battle to seek a multi-hundred million dollar judgement for non-payment of royalties. A number of knowledgeable people state that if PROMIS's advanced software was stolen and used since the early 1980s for numerous applications such as in our nuclear subs and nuclear missile defense system, Inslaw should be owed in excess of half a billion dollars. Some politicians and journalists privately, with only a few publicly, have supported Inslaw's position that the government stole their PROMIS software, but almost all have been unwilling to really investigate and go public with the real facts. Seymour Hersh, one of a few to attempt to get the whole Inslaw story out, recently researched and proposed an article for the New York Times Magazine, Vanity Fair, and Atlantic Monthly, but unfortunately they all passed. Even a House investigation and retired Federal Judge Nicholas J. Bua's grand jury 1993 investigation in Chicago didn't get to the bottom of this government scandal, possibly because of the magnitude of the situation. Attorney General Barr appointed Bua as a Special Counsel, but he was really a "dependent counsel." Even though Chuck Hayes, who secured many of the witnesses (such as Ari Ben-Menashe) did testify, Michael Riconosciuto along with many [other] witnesses didn't in person or at all. The Judge was sued for not conducting a proper investigation by Chicago investigative journalist Sherman Skolnick and Michael Riconosciuto. Bua submitted a "whitewashed" report to Attorney General Reno, who turned it over to the White House who did nothing... except send Inslaw information in a secure envelope to Vince Foster shortly before his death. Debra Gorham, former secretary to Vince Foster and William Kennedy, her prior boss, secretly testified before Senate Whitewater Committee on 6/23/95. In addition to Webster Hubbell, William Kennedy was another Rose Law Firm partner who resigned at the White House under a scandal and, also as Jackson Stephen's attorney in 1984, he filed incomplete information with the Federal Reserve about Stephens's family holding in Worthen Bank (New York Times 5/9/95 "Fed Ends Inquiry Into an Arkansas Family"). In her confidential testimony, Debra Gorham disclosed a key point wherein she stated that Vince Foster gave her two NSA 1-inch ringed binders (Ambrose Evans-Pritchard's London Sunday Telegraph 8/6 article and Debra Gorham's excerpted confidential transcripts) which she put in Bernard Nussbaum's safe. Debra Gorham described one binder as blue; it may well have been our nuclear missile launch codes which control the entire U.S. missile defense system -- the ultimate power. These codes access any missile and can launch it wherever programmed. Also, at a later public Whitewater Senate hearing on 8/1/95, Senator Faircloth's aide confirmed that Debra Gorham was instructed by her counsel to say, "I do not recall," when he passed a hurriedly written note before her to respond to the Senator's question, "Did Foster ever get any documents on Systematics or Inslaw?" In direct contradiction to her sworn testimony, through a confidential friend, Gorham admitted receiving and even reading some of a secure letter on Inslaw from Webster Hubbell. Although it might be hard to prove, since she only admitted through her friend that she was familiar with Inslaw from the previous Washington, D.C. law firm employer, there can be no doubt that Gorham lied to Congress about not receiving a letter on Inslaw. Chuck Hayes and other highly placed confidential sources have stated that Vince Foster, as a NSA secret operative since the late '70s and a partner at Rose Law Firm, worked on secret and clandestine matters at Systematics (owned by Jackson Stephens). Larry Nichols, a former Arkansas friend of Clinton's, has stated that a Systematics employee, who is afraid of being fired, confirmed to him that Foster came in shortly before his death, flashing NSA credentials, and demanded that this person run a secret program for him, which he did. After Foster's death, this same Systematics employee asked Larry Nichols if anything he did for Vince Foster could have been a reason for his death. In a significant development, Rep. Leach, Chairman of the Whitewater hearings, may be prepared to subpoena this person and therefore force him to testify when the hearings commence around the end of September, but don't count on him being called or showing up. [...to be continued...] ----------------------------------------------------------------- Views expressed do not necessarily reflect those of Conspiracy Nation, nor of its Editor in Chief. ----------------------------------------------------------------- I encourage distribution of "Conspiracy Nation." ----------------------------------------------------------------- If you would like "Conspiracy Nation" sent to your e-mail address, send a message in the form "subscribe cn-l My Name" to listproc@cornell.edu (Note: that is "CN-L" *not* "CN-1") ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information on how to receive the improved Conspiracy Nation Newsletter, send an e-mail message to bigred@shout.net ----------------------------------------------------------------- Want to know more about Whitewater, Oklahoma City bombing, etc? 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Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 9 Num. 98 ====================================== ("Quid coniuratio est?") ----------------------------------------------------------------- NOTES OF MEETINGS/CONVERSATIONS ON INSLAW & FOSTERGATE (10/21/95) ================================================================= By "Mr. Mercedes" (Pseudonym) ----------------------------- [...continued...] [CN: The rest of this essay, as typed by CN, omits portions of the original which seemed redundant. Also, the claims made by "Mr. Mercedes" are his own; much of what he says is beyond my own knowledge. Be assured, however, that I have spoken with "Mr. Mercedes" many times and that he is not a dilettante in these matters.] In addition to acting as an NSA agent, James Norman stated that Vince Foster was also selling NSA and other high-level U.S. government and military secrets to Israel's Mossad with the assistance of another former Rose Law Firm partner, Hillary Clinton (she was the attorney of record for none other than Systematics once in 1978 and later in (1981 or 82?)) James Norman stated that Dee Dee Myers, former White House Press Secretary, reportedly set up Foster by getting him out of the White House where he was killed in a not very professional and hurriedly arranged mafia-style hit, made to look like a suicide. Her recent drunk driving arrest was a cover for an intense CIA interrogation about her involvement in Foster's death. In a completely different, but interrelated vein of the Inslaw/PROMIS situation, CNN broadcast an excerpt of a one-and-a-half hour taped interview on 12/12/91 with Canadian John Belton who described how former California Gov. Reagan's Secretary of Health, Financial News Network founder/former owner and secret intelligence operative, Earl W. Brian, was involved in funding October Surprise. Additionally, Belton told CNN just how Earl Brian defrauded Nesbitt Thompson, the Canadian investment company where Belton worked, of $50 million through stock manipulation of Brian's public companies. Despite the significance of Belton's CNN interview, which aired worldwide and even with front page coverage in Canadian newspapers, there's been no coverage in the U.S. James Norman stated that Caspar Weinberger, Forbes' Chairman Emeritus, has also been implicated [by Chuck Hayes checking] out encrypted code number found by Ambrose Evans-Pritchard in Barry Seal's car trunk after he was murdered by Colombian hitmen when DOJ/DEA hung him out to dry. Evans-Pritchard gave Norman the number, who in turn had Hayes run it and see who and what he could come up with. Hayes found that the number turned out to be a secret Swiss bank account for Caspar Weinberger through which he pulled out several million dollars. Some sources even believe it was possible that the whole NSA/Foster operation was a policy decision under Reagan/Bush to pay back Israel for their help with Iraq by providing them with our nuclear missile defense system. It is unknown if Caspar Weinberger had applied any pressure to kill Norman's story at Forbes, but he certainly feels that his continuing investigation into Weinberger's involvement in the "Fostergate" story was the real reason for his being fired. Other journalists who were fired for writing or attempting to write stories on Vince Foster/Inslaw include Christopher Ruddy formerly at New York Post (1/27/94 article, "Doubts Raised Over Foster's Suicide," and 2/10/94 article, "Fumbling Feds Change Story on Foster's 'Suicide'" and Pittsburgh Tribune-Review 9/20/95 "Police Failed to Find Keys to Foster's Car at Park" and 9/26/95 "Clinton Security Chief's Murder Still Unsolved") and Tony Kimery (Media Bypass 9/95, "Penetration: Fostergate II" follow-up to Norman's 8/95 article and upcoming 10/2/95 Insight Magazine article on the NSA's Fin-CEN, Financial Crimes Enforcement Network) at a Washington, D.C. wire service. Since Presidential hopeful Bob Dole is reported to have Jackson Stephens as his Campaign Finance Chairman, even if he doesn't have a secret Swiss bank account like many of his Congressional colleagues, the damage to his campaign could be terminal if and when this scandal breaks and he is linked with one of the central figures with [Stephens'] Systematics company. Quite possibly, since many are involved in both parties and independent counsel Ken Starr appears to have been involved in some way, early on in the Inslaw matter, recusing himself as Solicitor General, nothing about this Vince Foster scandal may ever come out in either the House or Senate Whitewater hearings or Starr's investigation and final report if they all can help keep it buried with Vince Foster, especially if there is no serious media scrutiny and reporting. If nothing is done we can almost certainly expect a huge "blowback" as described by Robert Friedman (New Yorker Magazine 3/17/95, "The CIA's Jihad"), a term which describes how the CIA's covert ops many times wind up causing more problems than their ops are worth. One of these CIA "blowbacks" presumably resulted in the bombing of the World Trade Center after the CIA trained, armed, and financed Arab terrorists and Afghan rebels to fight our former enemy, the Russian occupying army. Hopefully though, sooner or later serious journalists will decide to truly investigate this story; only then will "Fostergate" and Inslaw be prime time news, despite all the efforts of government officials, business leaders, and major media, to avoid, suppress and/or write dis- or misinformation on this blockbuster story. Who knows, maybe Safire had a point when he wrote, "Sometimes conspiracy theories uncover conspiracy." But poet Robert Frost really said it best: "...But I have PROMISes to keep, and miles to go before I sleep." ----------------------------------------------------------------- Views expressed do not necessarily reflect those of Conspiracy Nation, nor of its Editor in Chief. ----------------------------------------------------------------- I encourage distribution of "Conspiracy Nation." ----------------------------------------------------------------- If you would like "Conspiracy Nation" sent to your e-mail address, send a message in the form "subscribe cn-l My Name" to listproc@cornell.edu (Note: that is "CN-L" *not* "CN-1") ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information on how to receive the improved Conspiracy Nation Newsletter, send an e-mail message to bigred@shout.net ----------------------------------------------------------------- Want to know more about Whitewater, Oklahoma City bombing, etc? 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Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 10 Num. 05 ======================================= ("Quid coniuratio est?") ----------------------------------------------------------------- STRANGE HAYES CASE GETS STRANGER ================================ Are Myers and Hayes "Tweedledum" and "Tweedledee?" -------------------------------------------------- Writes Lawrence W. Myers in the September 1996 issue of Media Bypass Magazine: [Charles] Hayes and a small cell of experienced retired CIA computer hackers, commonly known as "the Fifth Column," have effectively disrupted the international financial markets, derailed a number of promising corporate careers, and in many ways, altered the American political landscape... it was Hayes who provided James Norman with the details of money laundering and secret Swiss bank accounts tied to key government officials... Later, Hayes reportedly went so far as to somehow screw up payment of FBI Director Louis Freeh's paycheck. Was that the last straw? Did Freeh vow revenge? The FBI is connected with the current case of Charles "Chuck" Hayes, which case is now performing strange gyrations in the area of London, Kentucky. According to Gail Gibson of the "South-Central Kentucky Bureau" ("Bureau" of what?), "Prosecutors charge that Hayes, 61, arranged to pay an undercover FBI agent $5,000 to kill his son... The two men are involved in a bitter legal fight over the estate of Chuck Hayes' mother." But wasn't it $100, and not $5,000, that was supposedly paid? J. Orlin Grabbe (http://www.aci.net/kalliste/), in "Judge Jennifer B. Coffman's Kangaroo Court," notes that Hayes had "begun to name names under oath." But was Hayes cross-examined? Sherman Skolnick suggests that by Hayes speaking under oath, whatever he has said can now be publicized as "true." Skolnick told this editor in a phone conversation (1/17/97) that he has a pipeline into the developing legal situation in Kentucky and suspects a "tremendous deception" by Hayes and Myers. Yet, as noted in CN 9.94, Grabbe in the past has hinted to this editor that Skolnick is somehow connected to Mossad. But wait a minute: "Mr. Boderby" (CN 9.59; ftp.shout.net in sub-directory pub/users/bigred/vol9) hinted that Lawrence W. Myers was with Mossad. Are Myers and Skolnick *both* with Mossad, and working against Hayes? Yet Myers is revealed in the Gail Gibson article from the "South-Central Kentucky Bureau" as having been "the free-lance writer who told the FBI that Hayes wanted Hayes' son killed." It appears that Myers is a rat. If Myers and Skolnick were both connected with Mossad, why would Skolnick have repeatedly warned about Myers? As far back as June of 1996 (CN 8.18), Skolnick was saying, "On the day of the Oklahoma bombings... Thomas [of Media Bypass Magazine] hired a person using the name Lawrence W. Myers (is that person really linked to that name? Is his background what he says it is?)" This raises an interesting question: Is "Myers" really Myers? In CN 8.50 (circa 7/17/96), Skolnick further warned that, "As far as Chuck Hayes: he alleges that he retired from the CIA. But since he has condemned me as a 'nut,' when my stories about Foster and Whitewater were broader and more comprehensive, I have to assume that Hayes is still with CIA. And since I believe that Lawrence W. Myers reportedly still is a government counter-intelligence agent, and now has joined forces with Hayes, I have to assume that the story instigated by Hayes -- the 'Angel of Death' thing -- is a melodramatic, watered-down version of my original story." Regarding Hayes having called Skolnick a "nut," here is the relevant excerpt from Myers' interview of Hayes published in the August 1996 Media Bypass Magazine: HAYES: This group, Accuracy in Media [AIM], has been attacking the Fostergate story for more than a year. You know, it's a funny thing about these folks over at AIM. Everyone in the intelligence community knows these people are mouthpieces for the Mossad. When people as ludicrous as Scott Wheeler get hired to write hit pieces on people, no one takes them seriously. He is nothing. It's not even worth my time to even discuss this individual. I do not take time to respond to claims by Scott Wheeler, Sherman Skolnick and a bunch of other nuts trying to make a living with half-baked disinformation. A key statement by Skolnick, as noted above, from CN 8.50, and published in July of 1996, is "I believe Lawrence W. Myers... has joined forces with Hayes." According to Skolnick, Myers had spoken with him and promised that if he were to "behave," Myers would have pulled strings to get Skolnick his own radio show. Skolnick suspects that Myers somehow strong-armed The Spotlight newspaper into not publishing a story by Skolnick when Skolnick refused to go along with Myers' alleged deal. Currently, Skolnick "strongly suspects a game," with Myers and Hayes doing a Tweedledee/Tweedledum routine for some purpose. As to Hayes' circus of a trial, Skolnick believes "the whole thing is a sham." Not so, according to "Mr. Mercedes" (pseudonym), with whom I also spoke this evening. Myers, according to "Mr. Mercedes," is *not* affiliated with Hayes. Close to those inside the developing Hayes case, "Mercedes" is of the opinion that Hayes was setting up the FBI for a sting and used Myers for that purpose. Says this east coast source, "Chuck was testing Myers, almost like Judas and Jesus Christ," (but adds that this is only an allegory, that Hayes is definitely no angel.) "Without Judas, where would Christ have been? Without Myers, Hayes could not work the sting." Hayes presumably hoped to benefit from the maneuver by thereby having access to legal discovery procedures. But things didn't turn out as Hayes had planned, observes "Mercedes," with the undercover agent arrested for solicitation of murder. Instead, Hayes himself wound up in the slammer. Or, along a different line, "Mercedes" theorizes the whole Hayes in jail fiasco may have been arranged by Clinton et al. to remove heat from Hayes and his "Fifth Column" until after the November election. In one thing both "Mercedes" and Skolnick agree: the prosecutor, in the trenches and actually bringing the case forward, does not have a clue as to higher subtleties involved in the case. Increasingly, the whole case is turning into a Keystone Cops episode and, if Judge Wapner of "The Peoples Court" were presiding, it would have long since been thrown out. "The longer the Department of Justice continues, the worse it will get for them," predicts "Mr. Mercedes." Of interest in the Myers/Hayes, Tweedledum/Tweedledee theory is a reported statement made by Myers: "I know who is running the court. 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Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 10 Num. 06 ======================================= ("Quid coniuratio est?") ----------------------------------------------------------------- THE HEIDELBERG - DeCAMP - GUNDERSON - MYERS CONNECTION ====================================================== Did Lawrence Myers Play a Role in Hoppy Heidelberg's Dismissal? --------------------------------------------------------------- In CN 10.05 ("Strange Hayes Case Gets Stranger") I wondered just what the "South-Central Kentucky Bureau" was. A reader was nice enough to inform me that it is the South-Central Kentucky Bureau of the Lexington Herald-Leader. You'll recall that I wrote that, "According to Gail Gibson of the South-Central Kentucky Bureau, 'Prosecutors charge that Hayes, 61, arranged to pay an undercover FBI agent $5,000 to kill his son... The two men are involved in a bitter legal fight over the estate of Chuck Hayes' mother.'" I was informed that Gail Gibson has written at least 3 articles on the Hayes trial, temporarily available at no cost at the Herald-Leader's web site: http://www.kentuckyconnect.com/heraldleader/index.htm I was in time and pulled up those other articles written by Gibson (with help from colleagues), from the Herald-Leader web site. They provide a good summary of the Hayes case, useful to any readers unacquainted with the details. For further background, read articles written by J. Orlin Grabbe, especially the series "Allegations Regarding Vince Foster, the NSA, and Banking Transactions," available at http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ and at http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html The gist of the story (which may astound any new readers) is that Charles "Chuck" Hayes, a former CIA agent fed up with rampant government corruption, began a personal crusade to clean things up. He, with the help of knowledgeable friends, used a secret computer "back door" to enable them to "hack" their way into secret computer accounts. Many of the computers allegedly hacked into belonged to Swiss banks. From the secret information they obtained, Hayes and his "Fifth Column" of like-minded crusaders gained leverage to use against corrupt government officials. "Leave office by sundown, or else we'll blab what we know," this Fifth Column presumably warned Congress-persons, bureaucrats, and others. Besides their inside evidence of individual corruption, Hayes and friends, via their back-door access to bank accounts, reportedly were able to withdraw the bribe money stored there by politicians and other powerful persons. Did Hayes' actions cause a counter-attack by forces aligned with the U.S. government? I spoke with a source who prefers to remain anonymous, a man with years of investigative experience, who believes that that *is* what the Hayes case is about. According to this source, the Hayes case is a more or less straightforward example of government retaliation against people who have somehow annoyed them. Reportedly, vicious elements within the U.S. government prefer if possible to discredit their enemies rather than simply murder them. Elimination of witnesses by murder can have messy complications, so these elements prefer to set people up on false charges so as to discredit them and/or remove them from the picture. This editor is familiar with such tactics apparently being routinely used, such as in the case of Terry Reed, where Reed had false charges brought against him so as to impugn his testimony. Further key information on the Hayes case is provided by Gail Gibson, in her series of articles from the Lexington Herald-Leader. An affidavit by FBI agent David Keller claims that Hayes had agreed to pay $5,000 to have his son murdered, but had only actually paid $100. This Agent Keller, according to J. Orlin Grabbe, may have been a former member of The Outlaws motorcycle gang who has both used and sold heroin while at the same time informing on other gang members. Dr. Grabbe bases this claim on information obtained by investigators working on behalf of the defendant. Gibson also reports that there are supposed to exist taped conversations between Hayes and Keller which will help shed light on what happened. Allegedly, Hayes can be heard to ask Keller what his FBI number is, according to Gatewood Galbraith, attorney for Hayes. If it can be shown that Hayes was perfectly aware of Keller's being an FBI agent, this raises the question: Why on earth would Hayes have contracted his son's murder with a known FBI agent? I am told that, by order of presiding Judge Jennifer B. Coffman, these tapes have *not* been allowed to be played publicly. In Dr. Grabbe's article, "Judge Jennifer B. Coffman's Kangaroo Court," the iconoclastic ex-Wharton professor charges that prosecution witness Lawrence Myers, a former writer for Media Bypass Magazine, is a convicted felon. Myers reportedly was once convicted on an extortion charge and was later confined to a mental institution. If true, this makes one wonder: What sort of "witness" *is* Myers? Sherman Skolnick in the past has voiced suspicions that Myers is not, as would seem, merely an honest reporter trying to do his job, but a deep-cover government agent who uses a "reporter" disguise to facilitate the gathering of information on subversive types. The anonymous source mentioned above, with whom I spoke by telephone today, connects Lawrence Myers to the dismissal of Hoppy Heidelberg from a grand jury investigating the April 19, 1995 Oklahoma City bombing or bombings. According to this reputable source, Hoppy Heidelberg retained attorney John DeCamp while Heidelberg was on the abovementioned grand jury. Heidelberg himself, when I spoke with him by telephone, described how he chose DeCamp. Heidelberg was familiar with the Liberty Lobby organization, and sought their advice on finding a good attorney. They recommended DeCamp. At the time, says Heidelberg, he was unaware that DeCamp served as legal consultant for Media Bypass Magazine. My anonymous source tells me that, protected by attorney/client privilege, Heidelberg discussed developments in the investigation with DeCamp. Heidelberg says that is almost correct, but that DeCamp, being busy at the time, hired Ted Gunderson as an investigator and sent him to Oklahoma to talk with Heidelberg. Ted Gunderson, having been hired by DeCamp, was also under the cloak of attorney/client privilege, according to Heidelberg. Heidelberg is not 100 percent certain as to the timeline of exactly *when* he hired DeCamp as his attorney. He believes it was shortly before he was thrown off the grand jury for supposedly leaking information. When Gunderson came to interview Heidelberg, he brought along a videographer to tape the interview. Not known by Heidelberg at the time was that Gunderson feared that something might happen to the grand juror and wanted to have taped evidence of what was said. But Heidelberg refused to allow the videotaping. Nonetheless, the videographer, a Mr. Cook (or Cooke), was allowed to remain present during the interview. Cook, says Heidelberg, having been hired by Gunderson, was *not* bound by attorney/client privilege. Awhile later, Cook reportedly spoke with Troy Underhill of Media Bypass Magazine, who relayed what Cook had to say to Lawrence Myers of that same magazine. Heidelberg says that Myers then spoke by phone with Cook more than once, and eventually taped what Cook had to say. Myers then reportedly phoned Heidelberg, who listened to the tape-recording of Cook. Heidelberg insists that he only listened, and did *not* give Myers any information. Yet Myers, in an article in the November 1995 Media Bypass Magazine ("OKC Grand Jurors Claim 'Cover-Up'"), claimed to have had "an exclusive interview" with "a grand juror." Regarding Sherman Skolnick's "Tweedledee/Tweedledum" viewpoint, that the Hayes case is a subtle scheme whereby Myers plays the bad guy so as to make Hayes appear to be the good guy, my anonymous source expressed skepticism. Regarding Media Bypass Magazine itself, my source is not certain whether they may have been innocent dupes or if the fringe magazine is not, as it seems, a reform-minded publication. Is Media Bypass Magazine some sort of tricky operation, whose strings are pulled by hidden manipulators? I phoned them today but was unable to speak with anyone who could give an authoritative answer. One CN reader, who has had articles published in the magazine, assures me that they are basically aboveboard.. He claims that "an orchestrated effort to shut down the magazine has [thus far] failed." He adds that "Rich Azar, the news editor, is on the Hayes story and has yet another edition of it in the February Media Bypass." ----------------------------------------------------------------- Views expressed do not necessarily reflect those of Conspiracy Nation, nor of its Editor in Chief. ----------------------------------------------------------------- I encourage distribution of "Conspiracy Nation." ----------------------------------------------------------------- If you would like "Conspiracy Nation" sent to your e-mail address, send a message in the form "subscribe cn-l My Name" to listproc@cornell.edu (Note: that is "CN-L" *not* "CN-1") ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information on how to receive the improved Conspiracy Nation Newsletter, send an e-mail message to bigred@shout.net ----------------------------------------------------------------- Want to know more about Whitewater, Oklahoma City bombing, etc? (1) telnet prairienet.org (2) logon as "visitor" (3) go citcom ----------------------------------------------------------------- See also: http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html ----------------------------------------------------------------- See also: ftp.shout.net pub/users/bigred ----------------------------------------------------------------- Aperi os tuum muto, et causis omnium filiorum qui pertranseunt. Aperi os tuum, decerne quod justum est, et judica inopem et pauperem. -- Liber Proverbiorum XXXI: 8-9 Command: GET "12_1996&1645753" Subject: Angel of Death VS the FEDS From: landlord@telerama.lm.com (Mayor Loz) Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 22:30:55 GMT Message-ID: <32ac930a.124721164@news.lm.com> Organization: Telerama Public Access Internet, Pittsburgh, PA Newsgroups: alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater JAILED CHUCK HAYES CLAIMS FBI SETUP Chuck Hayes is a crooked government's worst nightmare. Which is probably why he's in jail without bond. By James Norman Sooner or later, Chuck Hayes and the FBI were destined for a show-down. Either he'd get them, or they'd get him. They both hate each other, with good reason. For many months they had played cat and mouse, warily circling each other looking for an opening. Finally, Chuck Hayes got a Pearl Harbor sneak attack. It was a little after 5 p.m. on Tuesday, Oct. 22, 1996. Sitting in the office of the 8-unit Beckett Motel in the little town of Nancy in hilly southeastern Kentucky, overlooking a scenic arm of Lake Cumberland called Fishing Creek, Hayes watched as three men in suits drove up and walked in. "You rent rooms by the week or by the month?" asked one. "By the week, but not by the month," replied the white-haired motel proprietor and retired CIA contractor. Cordial but cautious, Hayes could smell a G-man miles away. "Doesn't really matter," replied FBI Special Agent David R. Keller: "You're under arrest." More than a month later, the 61-year-old Hayes, remains behind bars in the nearby Laurel County Detention Facility in London, Ky., held without bond. He is charged with supposedly hiring an undercover FBI agent for a paltry $5,000 to kill his son, John Anthony Hayes, a Louisville real estate salesman who Hayes has all but disowned over alleged drug use. The "hit" allegedly meant crossing a state line and using the mail and telephone, so that made it a federal case. The FBI claims to have damning evidence: taped phone conversations ordering the supposed murder-for-hire and disposal of the body. Trial is set for mid-January. Hayes could get 10 years in prison. On the surface, things look grim for Hayes. On October 25, U.S. Magistrate Judge J. B. Johnson Jr., citing Hayes Internet nickname "Angel of Death," declared him a threat to society and a flight risk. So he denied Hayes the right to post bail. Three times Hayes thought he had hired a lawyer, but each backed out for odd reasons amid speculation of government pressure. At a pre-trial hearing November 26, Hayes had to represent himself to get his rushed trial pushed back from December 2. Hayes has yet to get a receipt for the $2,600 of cash or the credit cards taken from him at the jail. And to add insult to injury, the motel itself and the house Hayes lived in have been turned over to his son, the would-be assassination target, as part of a long-running inheritance dispute. So is Hayes bummed out? Hardly. He sounds elated. Calling collect from the jailhouse, Hayes declares with a laugh that he will not only prove the FBI's case is a frame-up, but that it is fraught with perjury and ethics violations. "We've notified the court we intend to prosecute FBI agent Keller on several counts of perjury," says Hayes. In addition, the Assistant U.S. Attorney, Martin Hatfield "failed to carry out a court order" to turn over evidence, claims Hayes. "That can mean his law license, and I intend to have it." In other words, he's got 'em right where they want him. It gets better: "Charles Hayes is in jail because he tweaked the government's nose," says his new lawyer, government gadfly, legalized hemp advocate and twice-defeated Kentucky gubernatorial candidate Gatewood Galbraith of Lexington. "They tried to induce Charles into a crime. He, knowing it was the government, strung them along until they got frustrated and arrested him. In fact, a crime never occurred." Hayes claims the 10 phone tapes belatedly turned over to him for inspection by Asst. U.S. Attorney Hatfield, will show Hayes asking the undercover agent for his FBI phone number, joking about stripping him of his "wire," and proposing to meet for the payoff at a government office. "The evidence will show he (Hayes) was aware of who they were," says Galbraith: "It was a game to see how far he could take the ruse." Adds Hayes: "At no time was my son ever at risk." Game? More like a war. This is a deadly serious confrontation between a single-minded and unorthodox former CIA computer spook bent on cleaning up government and a desperately corrupt law enforcement juggernaut. Murder for hire plots? The real question is who in Arkansas or the White House has been putting out contracts on the life of Chuck Hayes, who claims he has had to fend off or preempt at least three would-be attempts on his own life by hired killers in the past two years. Why Hayes? Because in recent years this wily, irascible former intelligence operative has been a continual thorn in the government's paw by catching the bureaucracy in one crooked escapade after another. He has given testimony supporting the $300 million claim by Inslaw Inc. that its PROMIS tracking software was swiped by the Justice Dept. and used in a variety of other government applications. He bought a load of used computers from the U.S. Attorney's office in Lexington in 1990 and found the disk drives still had recoverable witness protection files, along with unlicensed Microsoft and Lotus programs. When the feds sued to shut him up, he won an $80,000 settlement. Plus, he has a $1 million claim against the Customs Dept. for a 25% reward or "mordi" on delivering a huge gem seizure in 1985, for which he's never been paid. Hayes claims the deadbeat government is sitting on billions of dollars worth of similar mordi claims, waiting for the claimants to die or give up. But those are mere annoyances. What has been giving the FBI and Justice Dept. fits is Hayes' computer hacking. Nobody seems to be able to prove it, but this retired CIA computer spook and four fellow intelligence veterans, calling themselves the Fifth Column, have armed themselves with one or more powerful Cray supercomputers. For at least the past 5 years, they have been hacking their way into bank, corporate and government data bases all over the world, tracking the flow of dirty money from drug, arms and other nefarious businesses into the offshore pockets of the world's power elite. First they find the money. Then they steal it. Or more correctly, someone using the authorization codes found for those "numbered" offshore accounts has been wire-transferring dirty money back into escrow at the U.S. Treasury. The tax-dodging bribe-takers are dared to come and claim it. All the proceeds go to specified government agencies -- if they clean up their own acts. At last count, the Fifth Column's take was pushing $4 billion, from almost 1,000 offshore accounts. It hasn't stopped there. Starting in mid-1995 in earnest, Hayes' group began quietly delivering plain brown envelopes to high-ranking government officials caught in this net, confronting them with hundreds of pages of incontrovertible bank records and other documents. The choices offered were either to retire or face exposure, prosecution, and loss of federal pension benefits. The result has been an unprecedented deluge of unexpected departures from Congress and government agencies in the past year, many for the patently phony excuse of spending more time with family. Both Democrats and Republicans have been nailed. Greed knows no party lines. On top of that, Hayes is believed to be responsible for funneling information on funny-money bank activities to foreign governments like Mexico, Korea, Japan and Canada to help those countries go after political corruption. That led the Federales to nearly half a billion dollars in Salinas family accounts at Citibank in Switzerland, leading to a possible criminal money laundering investigation of the U.S.'s biggest bank. Fifth Column information has also been going to Whitewater Independent Counsel Kenneth Starr, who is believed to have made use of it under national security secrecy rules to help nail down the conviction of Arkansas Gov. Jim Guy Tucker. Indeed, Fifth Column fingerprints have been all over a spate of recent scandalous revelations, from finding thousands of FBI files illegally uploaded to the White House Office Data Base to tipping off The Star tabloid and even supplying the pictures for its scoop on toe-sucking, philandering Clinton political advisor Dick Morris. Fifth Column snooping into unusually rich spending patterns by employees at the IRS region headquarters in Covington, Ky., is said to have led to the arrest of five workers there for selling crack cocaine on the job and a grand jury is said to be looking at possible sales of IRS files to outsiders for $500 apiece. Circumstantial evidence that a massive, secretive upheaval is going on in the government is plentiful, from the record congressional departures to wholesale post-election resignations in the Clinton Administration, and anticipated indictments of First Lady Hillary Clinton. But there is precious little hard proof that the Fifth Column even exists. About all there is are the sparse details Hayes, its lone spokesman, chooses to reveal. There is corroboration on some key points by other intelligence sources -- too scared to be named in print. But the implications of all this are so staggering that even clean government officials in-the-know are loath to even whisper what's going on. The bad guys certainly aren't talking. The mainstream press has turned a blind eye, or pooh-poohed the story as fanciful conspiracy theory, as if whistling past its own graveyard. And the few journalists who have gotten a whiff of what's happening can't get stories into print because there are no hard documents available. Yet. That may soon change with Hayes in jail. "The column is MAD," declares Hayes. "Things are about to start popping." Perhaps the clearest endorsement for Hayes' claims may be the sheer fact he's been jailed on such a clearly manufactured charge. He must be getting under SOMEbody's skin for doing more than spreading baseless rumors. Indeed, FBI agent Keller apparently was part of a 16-agent task force dispatched to try and track down the Fifth Column's computer, believed to be an air-cooled Cray model packed in a nondescript semi-trailer truck with its own generator and satellite link. As a prank, someone probably a friend of Hayes, put a captured bobcat in one of the team's empty government vehicles one evening, tearing the car's interior to shreds. "Maybe FBI stands for Federal Bobcat Investigator," chortles Hayes. Another of his epithets for the FBI: "Federal Bulls*** Investigators." Hayes is openly contemptuous of the FBI, a perennial intramural rival of the CIA, which Hayes also says is rife with corruption. Low paid, overgrown and prone to graft, Hayes says the FBI has been easy prey for organized crime and drug cartel infiltration. Technically, he points out, the FBI is not legally chartered and its employees are not eligible for federal pensions, can't carry guns, and can't legally send people to prison for lying to them. That's because the FBI has outgrown its chartered parent, the DoJ. So Hayes likes to crow that some unknown hacker last summer busted into a government computer in Oklahoma and digitally severed FBI head Louis Freeh from his paycheck and government pension, at least temporarily. Hayes speaks with equal disgust of the DoJ's penchant for covering up official wrong-doing while crushing small-fry lawbreakers and political enemies using intimidation, lies, coercion and the unlimited resources of the federal bureaucracy. He laughs when he tells how, a few years back one April 27 (Hayes' birthday), somebody hacked into the DoJ computer and scheduled all the Washington headquarters guards for a night off. Then a green pickup pulled up to the loading dock and made off with a truckload of sensitive computer disks. True or false, it's a great story. But he sheds real tears when he talks of Danny Casolaro, a free-lance journalist found "suicided" in a West Virginia motel room in 1991 while working with Hayes on exposing offshore bank accounts of high level government figures. There is considerable evidence rogue operatives connected with DoJ's Office of Special Investigations (the vaunted Nazi-hunters) may have been involved in Casolaro's death. "There's so many crooks in the government," snarls Hayes, "It's like shootin' fish in a barrel." Hayes should know. He has spent most of his life working for the government -- much of it cleaning up internal corruption. It started out with him flying F86 Sabrejets at the tail end of the Korean War, being shot down later over Vietnam, rising to Colonel in the Air Force, and moving into the Central Intelligence Agency as a contract operative. In the early 1980s, Hayes was posted to Brazil, where he ran a motor home manufacturing business -- and was instrumental in heading-off a simmering Communist insurgency. At various points in his career Hayes came face-to-face with the black reality that elements of the U.S. government were neck-deep in drug and arms running, software piracy and a raft of other abuses. It was personal profiteering under the guise of national policy. Like thousands of other straight government workers who stumbled onto this dirty trail, Hayes had little power to stop it. But he vowed one day he would deliver justice to the well-dressed scum that were turning his beloved United States into just another narco-republic. "Vengance is mine, sayeth the Lord," Hayes quips, "But gettin' even is Chuck's." Or as the motto says on his flag-bedecked Charles Hayes Group letterhead: "If it is to be, it is up to me." The secret to "gettin' even" came within Hayes' reach when he was assigned to a little known team inside the CIA called Division D, or "Squad D." According to Bob Woodward's CIA book "Veil," Division D was "an elite group...[which] did some of the risky breaking and entering in foreign-government offices to plant eavesdropping equipment." Some of that was done electronically by hacking into foreign computer systems. To do that, Hayes cryptically seems to confirm, he was trained to maintain and customize hardware and software for powerful, code-busting Cray supercomputers. All he will officially admit, usually grinning through a haze of cigarette smoke: "Mah gummint trained me wellll." Indeed, a matchup of Charles Hayes vs. The FBI may not be as uneven a fight as you might think. The smart money is probably on Hayes, who has a reputation inside the spook world for unorthodox, sometimes illegal, but usually very effective tactics against great odds. Example: Legend has it he once shot his way out of the Israeli Mossad's "Brick on the hill" headquarters with a high-ranking wounded female defector. True story? Who knows. Though he comes across intentionally on the phone as a good- ol'-boy junk dealer, swilling Maker's Mark bourbon at that sleepy little motel in the boondocks, Hayes is far from a country rube and drinks very little. He was raised in a prominent family near Ashland, Ky., with interests in trucking, heavy equipment and service stations. He learned to fly as a teenager and attended the Greenbrier military academy. That's how he got into Korean air combat at age 19. He attended law school in Chicago, under one of many aliases, and has practiced law in The Hague, but has never taken a U.S. bar exam. His political acquaintances allegedly run to high levels in both parties, nationally and in Kentucky. He claims to speak Mandarin, Farsi, German, Portuguese and a few other languages. What's certain is he's fluent in Hillbilly. Socially, he has hob-nobbed with big names in the country & western music world, as well as the Kennedy clan. Of course, if you ask the CIA, the Pentagon, or anybody in official Washington if they've ever heard of Chuck Hayes, all you get are denials. Or eerie silence. His skeptics brand him a blowhard and a kook. If he IS for real, he could hardly have a better cover, surrounded by trusted fellow military and intelligence veterans in a rural hamlet where strangers are conspicuous, and very unwelcome if they still work for the government. Moreover, even Hayes' most outlandish assertions and predictions have a way of eventually proving true. For instance, after returning from Brazil in 1985, Hayes became a dealer in government surplus equipment, which has allowed him to acquire (for mere pennies on the dollar) at least one used Cray, from the Subic Bay naval base, and the circuit boards and other hardware to build at least a couple more Cray- equivalents. Add to that batteries of disk drives, generators and sophisticated signal gear. This can be confirmed by page after page of purchase documents, court evidence and eyewitness inspection by at least two other journalists who have seen roomsful of Cray components and other powerful computer hardware. One of these writers is J. Orlin Grabbe (pronounced GRAY- bee), a former Wharton School finance professor and author of the current standard college text on international financial markets. Grabbe is also an expert in the arcane pricing of "derivatives:" put and call options and other financial instruments for risk- hedging. He helped launch a software company (now called FNX) that is a leader in such programs. There is no BS-ing Orlin Grabbe on bank computing, money laundering or financial markets. And when Grabbe and Hayes connected in mid-1995, they quickly developed a keen mutual respect. Whatever the truth about Hayes' other adventures, the man knew wire transfers and bank computer security. Better make that "in"-security. Grabbe's involvement in all this started when government intelligence types approached the predecessor of FNX to use that company as a front for covertly spying on the financial industry. As a libertarian with a healthy skepticism about government meddling in people's bedrooms and bank accounts, Grabbe was incensed. Especially when he came to realize the feds were using any number of similar fronts as Trojan horses into the banking world. One of them, he heard, was Systematics Inc., a curious Little Rock bank data processing and software firm. Now renamed Alltel Information Services and wholly-owned by Alltel Corp. (formerly Allied Telephone) there, Systematics had for many years been controlled by Arkansas' Stephens family. What made Systematics so peculiar to Grabbe was that this small company in Arkansas, with little proprietary software of its own, had managed to land extremely sensitive back-office bank data jobs in such unlikely places as Moscow, Macao , Singapore, Malasia and Pakistan, just about the time Bill Clinton was elected in 1992. Grabbe posted a bibliography of Systematics' press releases about these deals on the Internet, hoping it would pique someone's interest. It certainly got mine. For several months in early 1995, as a senior editor at Forbes magazine, I had been working on a complex story involving Inslaw and its PROMIS software. One of the companies suspected of illegally reselling that program, as part of a National Security Agency effort to spy on world money flows, or possibly to actually launder covert funds, was Systematics. Moreover, Deputy White House Counsel Vincent W. Foster, while an attorney at the Rose Law firm, is believed to have been a key go-between or handler for Systematics' relations with the super-secret National Security Agency. Systematics adamantly denied to Forbes that it had any ties to Foster or the NSA. But Washington Weekly, under a year-old Freedom of Information Act Request, has recently obtained documents that clearly tie Foster to highly sensitive NSA matters in the White House, and show sensitive NSA contracts with a Systematics affiliate. The most explosive aspect of that story, later dubbed "Fostergate," was that at the time of his supposed "suicide" in July 1993, I had confirmed from multiple sources that Foster was under counter-intelligence surveillance himself. He had been suspected of selling high-level national security codes and other secrets to the State of Israel. How was he first discovered? The Fifth Column had found a coded Foster account at a former unit of the Bank Ambrosiano, the Banca della Svizzera Italiana in Chiaso, Switz., with nearly $3 million in it from Israeli banks. Worse, his former Rose partner Hillary Clinton was suspected of sharing in the proceeds of that account, with or without knowing how the cash was generated. Forbes declined to run the story, but gave me permission to publish it elsewhere. "We can't say that about Systematics (an advertizer) and we can't say that about Israel" I was told. Having confirmed much of the story from his own sources, Grabbe posted the story on several Internet newsgroups. It then ran in alternative monthly called Media Bypass, despite efforts by Systematics (and the government) to squelch it with libel threats. That began a long series of follow-up postings on the Internet by Grabbe elaborating on the murky world of intelligence, finance, drug-money laundering and computers. It has gone far to explain the depth of corruption that lies beneath the seemingly penny-ante "Whitewater" scandal and is now an amazing library of articles on his web site at http://www.aci.net/kalliste/. In the flurry of newsgroup chatter that followed about Swiss accounts and congressional retirements, I posted a message to explain the Fifth Column's role in delivering resignation ultimatums as akin to the Biblical Angel of Death at Passover. The phrase stuck and Hayes was soon being referred to as AOD. Of course it has never referred to anything other than career death for crooked politicians. But Judge Johnson seemed to think it was threatening enough to keep an innocent man locked up without bail. Indeed, FBI agent Keller, in sworn testimony, claimed in court that Grabbe was merely a pen-name for Hayes, who was really the author of Grabbe's taunting Sept. 18 post presaging Hayes' arrest, titled "The Dickheads are getting desperate." In that, Grabbe poked fun at the FBI, but deftly expressed growing public concern over the encroachment of government authority. Keller cited that as a threat of armed reaction and blamed Hayes. The U.S. government is determined to keep Charles locked up. Just as in 1941, Chuck Hayes has suffered a Pearl Harbor. And he may suffer another year of setbacks, like the U.S. did in the Pacific. But ultimately those World War II losses were more than reversed and a totalitarian state was eventually crushed. What the Justice Department must be wondering: Does Hayes have an A- bomb ticking? Published in the Dec. 9, 1996 Issue of The Washington Weekly Copyright (c) 1996 The Washington Weekly (http://www.federal.com) [end of message ... text also available at ] Date: Thu Jan 30, 1997 9:54 pm CST From: bigred EMS: INTERNET / MCI ID: 376-5414 MBX: bigred@shout.net TO: Conspiracy Nation EMS: INTERNET / MCI ID: 376-5414 MBX: CN-L@cornell.edu BCC: * David Beiter / MCI ID: 635-1762 Subject: Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 10 Num. 14 Thanks to all paid subscribers, without whose support this effort would not be possible. Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 10 Num. 14 ======================================= ("Quid coniuratio est?") ----------------------------------------------------------------- P O T P O U R R I ================= -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- $50 million: From Illinois, to Arkansas, to the Cayman Islands -- Joseph Andreuccetti, an Illinois caulking contractor, gets put into involuntary bankruptcy. Supposedly he has borrowed $900,000, but really he never saw one dime of the money. So where did the money go? Allegedly it, included in a $50 million Resolution Trust Corporation contingency fund, got sent to Arkansas to cover up an embezzlement from Madison Guaranty Savings and Loan. I have spoke and met with Andreuccetti several times and believe that he was indeed robbed and that the courts are giving him the runaround in several cases he has subsequently brought forward. Next, Congressman Dan Burton (R., Ind.) goes on-record about a $50 million transfer of Arkansas Development Finance Authority (ADFA) money to the Cayman Islands. Burton wonders aloud, Why on earth did ADFA money, meant to benefit Arkansas small business, get sent to the Cayman Islands? Says Burton on May 29, 1996: ADFA [Arkansas Development Finance Authority] was created by Governor Clinton in 1985 to provide economic development loans in Arkansas. In December of 1988, ADFA deposited $50 million in a Japanese bank in the Cayman Islands. I have a copy of the contract that I will enter into the record. I have also delivered a copy of this document to the Independent Counsel's office. Why would an economic development agency in Arkansas deposit $50 million in a bank in the Cayman Islands? The Cayman Islands are a well-known center of money laundering for drug dealers. The State Department's international narcotics control report described the Caymans as "a haven for money laundering." One of the questions that I think is very, very important is why did the Arkansas Development Financial Authority send $50 million of Arkansas money to the Cayman Islands to deposit in a bank in the Cayman Islands, which is a major drug transit point acknowledged by almost every DEA agent in the world? I have the electronic bank transfer statements in my office. I am going to put them in the Congressional Record. There is no doubt the money was wired to the Cayman Islands. The question needs to be asked, why was it wired? Why would the Governor of Arkansas allow that? (Congressional Record, 5/29/96, H5627-28.) Later in 1996, Sherman Skolnick and Joseph Andreuccetti file suit against, among others, First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton, charging that plaintiffs obstructed disclosure of the secret details of the unlawful transfer of a 50 million dollar portion of 58.4 million dollars of funds of the Federal Home Loan Bank, parked and held in custody, and supposed to be so, with Household Bank and Household International in the Chicago area, and supposed to be held to make good the claims of plaintiff Andreuccetti. ...the use of said 50 million dollar unlawful transfer by defendant Hillary Rodham Clinton was to cover up 47 million dollars that was misappropriated and embezzled, and/or otherwise unlawfully encumbered, used, or removed from an Arkansas savings and loan, Madison Guaranty Savings and Loan, as to which defendant Hillary Rodham Clinton and her husband, William Jefferson Clinton, committed or caused to be committed, and allowed, permitted, and condoned, and acquiesced in, acts and doings punishable under provisions of the federal criminal code. Responding to Skolnick and Andreuccetti's lawsuit, lawyers representing Hillary Rodham Clinton stated that Plaintiff's complaint fails to meet the minimum standards of intelligibility and brevity... The complaint is both frivolous and abusive and is yet another example of plaintiffs' misuse of the judicial process. Accordingly, the complaint against Mrs. Clinton should be dismissed with prejudice. [The plaintiffs' complaint is] a convoluted and lengthy collection of allegations that are either unintelligible or irrelevant. To take but one example, in paragraph 30 (part of a four-and-a-half page narration of a purported meeting with an IRS agent), plaintiffs appear to allege that a United States bankruptcy trustee is corrupt, that the "nephew/godson" of a bishop embezzled $900,000, that one of the plaintiffs has been put into involuntary bankruptcy as a result of fraud, that a bank involved in that bankruptcy was run by someone who used to be the head of the "mafia-dominated Vatican Bank," and that the United States Attorney's Office in Chicago is yet another corrupt institution. Even after partially untangling this dense web of accusations, the relationship of the allegations to any cause of action that might reasonably be brought against the defendant Hillary Rodham Clinton remains a complete mystery. Representing Hillary Rodham Clinton and authors of the above excerpts from "Memorandum of Points and Authorities in Support of Defendant Hillary Rodham Clinton's Motion to Dismiss" are David E. Kendall, Nicole K. Seligman, Max Stier, and also Michael R. Feagley and Walter M. Rogers of the firm Mayer, Brown & Platt. Confused? Or perhaps cherubic Lady Clinton's face makes you think, "Naw, not Hillary. She wouldn't be connected with any embezzlement." Then consider the following statement by Lisa Schiffren, as reported in the February 1997 issue of George magazine: A better financial journalist than me would be well employed finding out where the Clintons have stashed their money offshore. I would imagine there are hundreds of thousands of dollars sitting in the Cayman Islands. I really believe this. If I had a lot of time and someone was willing to pay me a lot of money, I'd go find it. The $100,000 [which Hillary Rodham Clinton made in the cattle futures market], courtesy of Tyson Foods, is the tip of the iceberg. I'm giving them credit for having been bought for more than a measly hundred grand. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Charles "Chuck" Hayes Convicted -- Ex-CIA agent Chuck Hayes is fed up with corrupt government. He gets a powerful Cray computer, loads it into a semi-trailer, then he and his Merry Men roam the nation, hacking into secret Swiss bank accounts and putting the fear of God into American politicians. The corrupt politicos and their bureaucratic minions strike back. Presumably they have questionable quantity Lawrence Myers, journalist *extraordinaire*, lie to the FBI that Hayes is shopping for a "wet boy" (hit man). FBI has one of their agents, reportedly a former member of the Outlaws motorcycle gang, phone Hayes. Hayes apparently knows full well he is talking to an FBI man, but decides to play along. The FBI man says he can do the "job" for $5,000, and supposedly Hayes contracts with him to murder his son. Gotcha! FBI arrests Hayes, and Hayes stands trial. A jury convicts Hayes and he now faces as much as 10 years in prison. Present during the Hayes trial was "Limpiar Phebi Dojocia" (pseudonym). I spoke with "Limpiar" on the phone today, and here's what I got: ** The jury was 8 to 4, with four of its members favoring acquittal. That got narrowed down to one, then none, and the jury returned a guilty verdict. ** The prosecution did a last minute, dramatic unveiling of a Federal Express envelope, giving the impression it was "hot stuff, just in." The envelope, from the CIA, contained a response to inquiries. Says CIA: "Chuck Hayes? Chuck Hayes? Nope, never heard of him." But, says "Limpiar," the envelope in fact must have arrived on or about January 15, making the January 29th "dramatic unveiling" misleading. An added prosecution benefit of this "last minute" routine is that defense discovery guidelines get bypassed; how can prosecution have shared the letter with defense when they themselves "just now got it." ** Why didn't defense attorney Gatewood Galbraith call Bill Hamilton, of Inslaw, as a witness? Hamilton could have verified that Hayes was indeed a former CIA employee. "Limpiar" tells me that Hamilton was willing to testify. Much of the case hinged on whether or not Hayes really was a former CIA agent. Apparently the only one called by Galbraith to corroborate the claim was James Norman, former senior editor with Forbes magazine. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Re-arranging Deck Chairs on the Titanic -- Commenting on recent revelations regarding FBI crime lab bungling and worse, Stephen Jones, attorney for accused OKC bombing(s) mastermind Timothy McVeigh, stated that it was "like re-arranging deck chairs on the Titanic." Jones thinks that the government's case against McVeigh is hopeless, and, seemingly, the recent revelations amount to nothing toward altering the futility of the government's case. So what is going on? Why the revelations? Recall how, not long after the April 19, 1995 bombing(s), Colonel (Retired) James "Bo" Gritz and others were referring to McVeigh as "Lee Harvey McVeigh." This was an allusion to Lee Harvey Oswald, accused lone assassin of President John F. Kennedy. Paraded into the angry Oklahoma sunshine shortly after the bombing of the Murrah Building, clad in a bright orange "see me" jumpsuit, it appeared as if *someone* might save the prosecution some work by murdering McVeigh, a la Jack Ruby doing the same to Oswald. Were the government and/or its agents hoping that might happen, that McVeigh would magically be removed from the equation? Unfortunately for those desiring the removal of McVeigh and consequent absence of a trial in the matter, McVeigh was not assassinated and the trial is at last imminent. McVeigh's attorney Stephen Jones seems to be no slouch, and with closed circuit television to be made available to interested survivors, family members, and apparently to an alert underground press, Jones *will* be heard. And he will be heard *without* the "helpful" little interpolations of corporate "news" media. This spells trouble for any working to cover up the truth about the Oklahoma City bombing(s). By now they must be wishing, more fervently than ever, that McVeigh could somehow just disappear. With that as background, consider how convenient it would be for the case against McVeigh to be thrown out, due to tainted evidence. Recent revelations about FBI crime lab misdoings come at an opportune time for any who are wishing that the upcoming trial would just go away. And, FBI could just sit back and say, "Well, we *know* that McVeigh did it. It's just that picky legalities thwarted justice." ----------------------------------------------------------------- Views expressed do not necessarily reflect those of Conspiracy Nation, nor of its Editor in Chief. ----------------------------------------------------------------- I encourage distribution of "Conspiracy Nation." ----------------------------------------------------------------- If you would like "Conspiracy Nation" sent to your e-mail address, send a message in the form "subscribe cn-l My Name" to listproc@cornell.edu (Note: that is "CN-L" *not* "CN-1") ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information on how to receive the improved Conspiracy Nation Newsletter, send an e-mail message to bigred@shout.net ----------------------------------------------------------------- Want to know more about Whitewater, Oklahoma City bombing, etc? (1) telnet prairienet.org (2) logon as "visitor" (3) go citcom ----------------------------------------------------------------- See also: http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html ----------------------------------------------------------------- See also: ftp.shout.net pub/users/bigred ----------------------------------------------------------------- Aperi os tuum muto, et causis omnium filiorum qui pertranseunt. Aperi os tuum, decerne quod justum est, et judica inopem et pauperem. -- Liber Proverbiorum XXXI: 8-9 Date: Fri Jan 31, 1997 5:07 pm CST From: bigred EMS: INTERNET / MCI ID: 376-5414 MBX: bigred@shout.net TO: Conspiracy Nation EMS: INTERNET / MCI ID: 376-5414 MBX: CN-L@cornell.edu BCC: * David Beiter / MCI ID: 635-1762 Subject: Chuck Hayes to be on radio tonight I am told that Chuck Hayes will be the guest this evening (Jan. 31) on the George Douglas "Common Sense" radio show, 6 pm EASTERN time, shortwave 5.085 MHz. Tune in also at Galaxy 1, Transponder 17, Aud. 8.1Y. With Hayes will be author Dick Russell ("The Man Who Knew Too Much"; about the JFK assassination). Russell reportedly has written an article on Hayes, set to appear in the April 1997 issue of "High Times" magazine. Presumably, the April issue will be available in early March. Brian Redman | bigred@shout.net | ftp.shout.net pub/users/bigred Editor-in-Chief | ---------------Phone: 217-356-4418---------------- Conspiracy Nation | "The perfect slave thinks he's free." Date: Sat Feb 01, 1997 11:54 am CST From: bigred EMS: INTERNET / MCI ID: 376-5414 MBX: bigred@shout.net TO: Conspiracy Nation EMS: INTERNET / MCI ID: 376-5414 MBX: CN-L@cornell.edu BCC: * David Beiter / MCI ID: 635-1762 Subject: Re: Chuck Hayes to be on radio tonight I caught the broadcast last night. They talked about the Hayes case, but Hayes himself did not get on; apparently a goof-up or worse at the jail he's in. On the broadcast, Russell said the *June 97* issue of High Times would have the article. Also on the broadcast last night was the publisher of The Free American newspaper, who says their next issue will cover the Hayes case. Phone The Free American at 505-423-3250 or fax to 505-423-3258 or e-mail to freeamerican@etsc.net for more info. As to availability of "High Times" magazine, check a good bookstore, for example Barnes & Noble or Borders seem to have a large assortment of magazines. Brian Redman | bigred@shout.net | ftp.shout.net pub/users/bigred Editor-in-Chief | ---------------Phone: 217-356-4418---------------- Conspiracy Nation | "The perfect slave thinks he's free." Date: Wed Feb 05, 1997 7:25 pm CST From: bigred EMS: INTERNET / MCI ID: 376-5414 MBX: bigred@shout.net TO: Conspiracy Nation EMS: INTERNET / MCI ID: 376-5414 MBX: CN-L@cornell.edu BCC: * David Beiter / MCI ID: 635-1762 Subject: Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 10 Num. 18 Thanks to all paid subscribers, without whose support this effort would not be possible. Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 10 Num. 18 ======================================= ("Quid coniuratio est?") ----------------------------------------------------------------- ARREST OF HACKER CASTS DISPERSION {1} ON STORY OF CIA LOOTING ACCOUNTS ===================================== -------------------------------------------- Did an ex-CIA agent attempt to contract for the death of his son over an inheritance, or are powerful forces retaliating against the raiding of secret, overseas bank accounts? --------------------------------------------- (The Spotlight, 2/10/97) Article by The Spotlight Staff ------------------------------ A Nancy, Kentucky man accused of being the buyer in a murder-for-hire scheme remains in federal custody after his latest request for bond was denied by U.S. District Judge Jennifer Coffman. Lexington, Kentucky attorney Gatewood Galbraith had filed a motion for a bond hearing for his client, Charles "Chuck" Hayes, who has remained in the Laurel County Detention Center in London, Kentucky since his October 22 arrest for allegedly conspiring to have his son killed. So far, nothing sounds particularly out of the ordinary. Persons charged with felonies are often denied bail for a variety of reasons. But a peek behind the mainstream media's minimalist reports reveals disturbing details. Remember the story of U.S. government functionaries, many of them members of Congress, having secret bank accounts in foreign countries, mostly Switzerland? [CN: See Orlin Grabbe articles at http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html for background] Supposedly, the CIA found out about it through computer "hacking," then drained the accounts, using the money for its own purposes. {2} The people whose secret accounts were drained couldn't, of course, complain because they couldn't admit to having a secret, overseas account. The accused, Chuck Hayes, is alleged to be the CIA "hacker" who got into the overseas accounts and helped his employer drain them [sic, see note #2 below]. He was part of an alleged CIA operation [sic] code-named the Fifth Column. After Hayes went public he was arrested, accused of trying to hire a "hit man" to kill his son. There's a sequence of events that is more than coincidence, according to his friends. In his motion for a bond hearing, Galbraith cited misfeasance on the part of FBI Agent David Keller. He says Keller's October 25, 1996 testimony was tainted. According to Galbraith, as reported on the Internet: "In essence, the vast majority of alleged proof presented by the government at the detention hearing of [Hayes] was unsubstantiated, even though it could have easily been checked out for its truthfulness if the government had so desired, and it is this disdain and disregard for possible exculpatory evidence that so taints the testimony of the lead prosecution witness at the detention hearing, Special Agent David Keller." Hayes was arraigned on November 27, 1996 on the "conspiracy to murder" charge, based primarily on testimony from the FBI. Galbraith reportedly told reporter Sherry Price of the Pulaski (County) Weekly News, "If I were a good citizen of the state of Kentucky, I would strap on my weapons and go looking for federal agents... because they do happen to be murderous bastards, and I might need to protect myself in legal and justifiable self-defense by blowing someone's head off." {3}. All motions before the court on behalf of Hayes have been denied. The latest, filed on December 19, 1996, was denied on December 30 by Magistrate J.B. Johnson, which included a motion requesting that the "Findings of Facts" on November 26 by Johnson be corrected. According to published reports, Galbraith stated in a motion that "the original court was grievously misled by the alleged proof presented at the detention hearing on behalf of the government, much of which is impeachable by the most cursory independent investigation." Who's Grabbe? One of the reasons given by the government to deny bond to Hayes were Internet postings by one "J. Orlin Grabbe," which the FBI alleges is really a pen name for Hayes. However, Grabbe is an internationally known financial specialist who lives in Nevada and is the author of college textbooks on finance and economics, who had become friendly with Hayes, according to Galbraith. One Grabbe posting on the Internet said that everything about the Fifth Column was a lie to make "Jim Norman struggle to create stories from the concept." {4}. That concept included President Bill Clinton's CIA connection and the "suicide" of White House insider Vince Foster. Apparently the FBI failed to find any humor in the piece. The article downloaded from the Internet and forwarded to The Spotlight said Grabbe, Hayes and White House spokesman Mike McCurry discussed strategies to keep the ruse alive. The allegations of murder-for-hire stem from a dispute Hayes has with his son over the estate of Haye's mother, Madge Beckett. She left the majority of her $920,000 estate to her grandson, John, leaving defendant Hayes $1,000. John's brother was willed $500. The estate has been contested since Mrs. Beckett's death on December 26, 1994. Says Galbraith, the nickname "Angel of Death" given to Hayes was from his activities in exposing illegal monetary activities by government officials, causing many to retire; i.e., causing their political death. The trial is expected to be underway by the time this issue of The Spotlight reaches its subscribers. [CN: Hayes was found guilty and is awaiting sentencing.] + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + (From a related story, "RFA Examines Links In Scandals," Spotlight, 2/10/97.) [Excerpts] Chicago's Sherman Skolnick returned to Radio Free America (RFA) January 26... Skolnick also commented upon the ongoing trial of CIA operative Charles Hayes... Hayes is believed to be the man behind the stories about Vince Foster and the computer hackers told by former Forbes magazine editor Jim Norman... The government's primary witness against Hayes, who is charged with plotting to kill his son, turned out to be Lawrence W. Myers, formerly the top reporter for Media Bypass magazine... Skolnick said that he suspected Myers was undercover from the beginning, and now he suspects that both Myers and Hayes are somehow involved in a disinformation campaign centered around statements that will come from this trial... ---------------------------<< Notes >>--------------------------- {1} "Arrest of Hacker Casts Dispersion..." Casts *Dispersion*? Am I missing some nuance, or should it have read something like "Casts Doubt"? {2} "Supposedly, the CIA found out about it through computer 'hacking,' then drained the accounts, using the money for its own purposes." Not quite right. Allegedly, a rogue group of ex-CIA hackers drained the accounts. Allegedly, they were not operating on behalf of CIA. The Spotlight article is also misleading when it states the money was "used for its own purposes." Allegedly, the money was held in some sort of U.S. Treasury account, pending cleanup of government corruption. At that point, presumably, the money was to have been released, by the rogue hackers, to CIA. {3} Regarding Gatewood Galbraith's supposed advice to "strap on weapons" and "go looking for federal agents," *if* Galbraith made such a statement, that is appalling. Just because FBI is going around murdering people doesn't make it okay for others to do likewise. {4} "One Grabbe posting on the Internet said that everything about the Fifth Column was a lie..." Apparently refers to Dr. Grabbe's satirical essay, "An Apology and Good-Bye." This editor was amazed when several readers could not seem to understand the satirical nature of the essay and took it literally. Apparently the Spotlight staff is similarly unable to detect satire. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Views expressed do not necessarily reflect those of Conspiracy Nation, nor of its Editor in Chief. ----------------------------------------------------------------- I encourage distribution of "Conspiracy Nation." ----------------------------------------------------------------- If you would like "Conspiracy Nation" sent to your e-mail address, send a message in the form "subscribe cn-l My Name" to listproc@cornell.edu (Note: that is "CN-L" *not* "CN-1") ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information on how to receive the improved Conspiracy Nation Newsletter, send an e-mail message to bigred@shout.net ----------------------------------------------------------------- Want to know more about Whitewater, Oklahoma City bombing, etc? 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Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 10 Num. 29 ======================================= ("Quid coniuratio est?") ----------------------------------------------------------------- USE AT OWN RISK! ================ I received the following, with title "Use At Own Risk," anonymously. I caution the reader that I have no idea how accurate or correct the information given is. NOTE THAT THIS IS THE *COMPLETE VERSION*, AND NOT THE *ALTERED* VERSION, WHICH WAS RECENTLY COUNTERFEITED AND FAXED NATIONWIDE. + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + The following are primarily operatives of the ultra-right so-called "Christian" movement. They have been diligently tracked; in some cases for ten or more years. With hardly an exception, they are dedicated to various acts and doings to delay the downfall of Bill Clinton while they engage in attacks on Vice President Al Gore. They perceive him as a "socialist" or closet "communist" and believe in some of the assertions in Edward J. Epstein's recent book about the late Armand Hammer in respect to the Gore family. They believe that before Clinton is forced out, they have to destroy, by various means, Al Gore so that he could not, upon the downfall of Clinton, become the President. Whether they do or do not prefer Jay Rockefeller to replace Al Gore is an unanswered question. Some of them over the years may have -- for appearances -- criticized one another but nevertheless, have acted as a team. They are most every one of them viciously anti-Israel for religious and other reasons, and generally oppose Jews, particularly in the financial markets. RONALD F. MEEKER: For some years purportedly "worked" for Alexander Proudfoot, international business consultants, Chicago and elsewhere. Traveled worldwide. Overseas he interfaced with the American CIA. Domestically, he had working relationship with the FBI. His ex-wife (2nd wife), Rebecca Meeker, claims he wanted to move from Florida to Hong Kong area which she was not in favor of. She alleges he got burned out on dope. He, on the other hand, claims she has been "mule" -- courier -- for dope shipments through various Florida and other offices purportedly financial intermediaries, such as loan companies, S&Ls, and such. >From all the details, they appear to have been espionage couple. >From some time prior to 1995 to on or about November, 1996, he lived on sizeable farm with his parents, Covington, Indiana, across from Danville, Illinois. Now dresses like Nevada gangster to fit in with those he is part of in Cordova, Tennessee. Meeker helped install Lawrence W. Myers (also known as Myers W. Lawrence, and various other names) as chief investigative reporter at Media Bypass Magazine. The magazine got going just before or about the time of the Oklahoma City bombings. The publisher, Jim Thomas, claims he had at one time topmost security clearance and he says "worked on the atomic bomb." The magazine publishes numerous anti-Clinton pieces and is dedicated to controlling what the Christian ultra-right knows or thinks about Clinton. Meeker has been business consultant for Jeremiah Films, propaganda instrument for the Christian ultra-right. It purportedly is operated by Mr. Pat Matrisciana who earlier in his career was purportedly undercover operative for FBI to penetrate West Coast dissident movements. His consultant on day to day matters uses the fake name "John Bennett," has extremely good access to FBI records and Kenneth Starr's inner sanctum. At one time, Jeremiah Films, with full-page rear cover ads for Media Bypass, was major source of funds per month for the magazine. Exposure of Myers as some type of government operative caused Jeremiah Films to withdraw their support. Meeker co-ordinates the acts and doings of most of the rest of those herein mentioned in their activities in respect to Gore and Clinton, including "Bennett." Although not publicly identified with Kenneth Starr, Meeker is one of his principal non-lawyer operatives. Good reason to believe Meeker is co-ordinating oriental scandals against Gore. JOHN BROWN: With Karen Brown, purports to be manager of brokerage firm, "Vining - Sparks, Investment Brokers," Little Rock, Arkansas. John Brown once Arkansas state detective, claims he got in trouble working on the case, about 1988, where two young boys were found dead on railroad track: apparently they were murdered because they took too much interest in planes at night dropping satchels apparently of dope. Brown ran unsuccessfully for sheriff in 1996 in county near Little Rock. Brown travels around the country spreading disinformation or premature information, to sabotage and delay downfall of Bill Clinton while Brown, Meeker, and others of their team crank up scandal against Gore. Brown apparently the source supplying data for exclusive story, 2/15/97, in Democrat-Gazette, Little Rock, that Starr's office conducted "mock" trials, two in Little Rock, two in Washington, D.C., with Bill and Hillary Clinton as purported defendants or prospective defendants. Brown and his associates then apparently torpedoed the story, so that one of the officials of that newspaper had to say the "source" now says the story is not "correct" -- the correspondent working on the exclusive story contends the story was and is correct, despite the backtracking of the "source," apparently John Brown. The purpose was to give Starr, the team, and others, more time, delaying the downfall of Bill Clinton while they go about wrecking and scandalizing Gore who they perceive as a closet "communist," unfit to replace Clinton as President. Efforts by this team to delay downfall of Clinton while they destroy Gore are aided by certain Detroit mobsters tied to John Brown, Ron Meeker, and others of the team. Namely, "Detroit" Copeland, sometimes called "Detroit" Kaplan, and "Horse Face Pete." Their actual names and addresses in Detroit so far difficult to uncover. Through her brokerage connections and Detroit links, John Brown's wife, Karen, is actually in control of his efforts on the team as to Clinton and Gore. John Brown, together with Meeker, and others of their team, co-ordinate a group of ex-GIs who served in Viet Nam and are now "murder for hire" hit men, who pose an extreme danger to Gore and his circle. The "hit men" include and are supervised by Gary Collins who travels extensively in a camper with John Brown checking out details how to go about murdering witnesses so as to slow down the downfall of Clinton while they plot to destroy Gore. Collins, with an extreme pathological personality, is the type who could kill someone and then go and eat his lunch. He has recently moved to Jefferson City, Missouri. To slow down the demise of Clinton, John Brown and Gary Collins apparently arranged the murder of John Tarullo, Berwyn, Illinois (a Chicago suburb near the Mafia enclave of Cicero). Tarullo, a retired member of the London Gold Pool, had inside knowledge of Vincent W. Foster, Jr's., money laundering efforts on behalf of Bill Clinton that could have put the President quickly in prison. Tarullo was murdered August 28, 1996, shortly after John Brown and Gary Collins drove back from Detroit to visit Tarullo on a pretext. FRANCIS K. FONG: Defrocked professor originally with Purdue University, Lafayette, Indiana. Believed to be chief of the Te Wu, the Red Chinese secret police, operating in the U.S. Retired intelligence sources have complained to CIA and others, to no avail, that the Te Wu was operating in the U.S. since the end of the Korean War, to punish the U.S. for taking action in North Korea that forced Red China to enter the war as U.S. troops approached the China boundary at the Yalu River. Not restrained by the CIA (because the CIA was too busy tracking Te Wu, and so didn't restrain them), the Red Chinese Secret Police have committed assassinations, bombings, and mayhem within the U.S., and have gone unpublicized and unpunished, according to retired intelligence operatives working in small teams to investigate Te Wu's U.S. activities. Fong patented a form of heavy water process for creating energy. He comes from prominent ultra-rich family in Shanghai, linked to the Hong Kong & Shanghai Bank (Hong-Shang Bank), long tied to financing the dope trade going all the way back to the Opium Wars of the 19th Century. Up to about 1989, Fong was in the energy-patent form of business and his business partners included Bishop Paul Marcinkus, head of the Vatican Bank, and Walter J. Cummings, Jr., Chief Judge of the U.S. Court of Appeals, 7th Circuit, headquartered in Chicago. Cummings and his family have been, according to the financial disclosures required of members of the judiciary, major owners of the Continental Bank of Chicago, a major depository for the Vatican as well as the commodity exchanges and markets in Chicago. Fong has been in a position to have inside information as to the soybean deals, in the billions of dollars, used to disguise dope funds from Arkansas incriminating Bill and Hillary Clinton. Fong has had a close link with Stein, Roe & Farnham, at one time the brokerage for the Vatican. Fong reportedly kept track of the top U.S. military official, from West Lafayette, Indiana, who headed up a coup attempt against Commander-in-Chief Clinton and who perished in a sabotaged plane crash, killing an entire group of coup-plotters, April 17, 1995, near Alexander City, Alabama (near a secret Delta Force base). Some contend snuffing out the coup had some link to the Oklahoma City bombings, two days later, April 19, 1995, and that weekend, April 22, 1995, Independent Counsel Kenneth W. Starr made apparently his first entrance into the Clinton White House to take the deposition of the President and the First Lady. Although Fong is part of the team herein mentioned, with Meeker, John Brown, Gary Collins, and others, from time to time they appear or pretend to be on the outs with one another. For example, Fong claims Gary Collins called Fong on the phone and threatened to murder him; apparently some kind of shakedown by John Brown and Gary Collins. Fong, for some acquaintances, plays a purported audio tape recording that appears to be, in fact, the voice of Gary Collins. Fong has a form of laboratory in his basement where he is an expert at creating fake documents.. He is in a position to create so-called "documents" for or against Bill Clinton or Al Gore, for use by the team members. As the apparent head, in the U.S., of Te Wu, Fong is in a position to get purported inside data to be used to supposedly incriminate Al Gore on alleged oriental-type scandals. And to combine that with fabricated documents to make it all appear to be a genuine scandal against Gore. Fong's expertise in claiming to have "genuine" tapes, records, and documents, are set forth in an extremely lengthy decision by a federal district judge, published in a law court report, available in law libraries: Francis K. Fong vs. Purdue University, 692 Federal Supplement 930 (U.S. District Court, Northern District of Indiana, Hammond at Lafayette Division, Aug. 10, 1988). The printed decision goes on to page 968 in that volume. Fong's wife works as a purported volunteer for a foundation reportedly linked to the American CIA, the Wildlife Foundation. Fong's brother heads up an Oriental Museum linked to Princeton University. Fong keeps track of the money laundering through a riverboat gambling casino in Joliet, Illinois (a south suburb of Chicago), of "China White," high-purity heroin from South West China, flooding into the United States through small airports surrounding Chicago, including the Joliet Municipal Airport; the Lansing, Illinois Airport (another suburb); and through Pal-Waukee Airport, near Prospect Heights, Illinois (a north suburb of Chicago). Fong's business partner, Bishop Paul Marcinkus, while head of the Vatican Bank, also was the dominant force running First National Bank of Cicero (Cicero being a long-known Mafia enclave, adjacent to Chicago). The Cicero bank, together with Household International and Household Bank, were the ones that arranged the secret transfer of 50 million dollars of federal funds from Chicago to Little Rock, and thence to a known dope money laundry in the Caribbean and thence to Swiss accounts. All, for the purpose of attempting to cover up the 47 million dollars embezzled from Madison Guaranty Savings & Loan, for which Bill and Hillary are subject to federal criminal prosecution and prison. JAMES R. VASSILOS: Divorced from his wife who is part of Algemene Bank Nederland (ABN) and AMRO Bank, 8th largest bank chain in Europe, now actively gobbling up banks in most major cities in the U.S. Vassilos is a money laundry expert through his ex-brother-in-law, Theo Bark, a director of ABN-AMRO. Vassilos was disbarred in Illinois in May, 1993, for, among other things, cheating his clients in personal injury cases. Despite that, Vassilos travels around the nation, purporting to be the *pro bono* (for free) attorney for CIA pilots who get in trouble, CIA covert operators who get in trouble, and such. He was the purported legal advisor for Charles Hayes, another member of the "destroy Gore" team. Hayes, from the small town of Nancy, Kentucky, was found guilty about February, 1997, of arranging a murder contract against his estranged son in a probate dispute. The key witness against Hayes was Lawrence W. Myers, an FBI undercover operative. Vassilos is viciously "anti-Socialist," and "anti-Communist." He regularly travels the route around the nation to the other team members, staying at their residence: Francis K. Fong, Charles Hayes, John Brown, and others. With the help of Vassilos, the team hopes to slow down the downfall of Clinton, while they go about destroying the one they perceive as a closet "Communist," Al Gore, unfit in their view to become the President upon the wreckage of Clinton. Vassilos mouths off most every word "Jesus Christ." For the purpose of running an espionage front, for many years Vassilos, with the help of team member Michael Tario, ran the Chicagoland version of the "National Day of Prayer." Vassilos' live-in girl friend is Shirley Sitrick, once married to a member of the Sitrick family. Her brother-in-law, Michael Sitrick, is into crisis management, Los Angeles, Chicago, New York, and apparently has a link to Fred Goldman, an advertising executive, father of Ron Goldman, slain along with Nicole Brown Simpson. In her divorce case, she contended another brother-in-law in the Sitrick family was a member of Israeli intelligence. Vassilos apparently makes the financial arrangements to keep the "destroy Gore" team going. He reportedly has vast sums, skimmed off various scams by him and others, parked with small, downstate Indiana banks. Vassilos goes directly to the bank president's home of such banks and transacts right there. Primarily with banks that do not keep microfilm records of past transactions. Vassilos is a close associate of Dan Walker, Sr., who was sent to jail in the downfall of a Savings & Loan, in Oakbrook, a Chicago suburb. The S&L was wrecked by bond schemes from Bill Clinton's dope crony, Dan Lasater. Hillary Clinton and Vince Foster, as lawyers, were brought in by the Resolution Trust Corp., the S&L bailout agency, to handle the affairs of this defunct S&L. According to published accounts, Hillary and Foster falsely settled the matter for a mere pittance, defrauding the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. The major outside counsel for RTC has been Hopkins & Sutter, of which Tario's brother-in-law, Dan Hartnett, is a partner. Vassilos is an expert on how to speed up or slow down the Clinton scandal, so as to give the team more time to set about to destroy Al Gore. MICHAEL J. TARIO: He and his associates in the late 1970s were the brokers, fixers, and scam experts for the Pope's banker, Michele Sindona, a leading so-called "anti-communist." They transacted on the American Stock Exchange and elsewhere. Background reading: "St. Peter's Banker: Michele Sindona" by Luigi DiFonzo (Franklin Watts, 1983, New York, London, Toronto, Sydney). Together with Mark Sato (later detailed), they fingered several Jews who were big in supporting Israel: Michael Milken and Ivan Boesky. Tario and Sato, both part of the team mentioned, are viciously anti-Israel and oppose Gore who apparently favors Israel. As an IBM systems analyst and engineer, Mark Sato set up the computer that took the Midwest Stock Exchange (now called the Chicago Stock Exchange) from paper records to computer record keeping, 1978. Built into the system was a way for certain exchange officials to skim off hundreds of millions of dollars by phantom records (from 1987 to date, the subject of a lawsuit in the Chancery Division, of Cook County Circuit Court, against the Midwest Stock Exchange). Tario has inside connections to cabinet members in Tokyo and Rome. This enables Tario to be a highly "successful" currency and other instrument trader. From 1988 to 1992, Tario was the president of Lashco, Inc. and LCO Trading Company, trading on the major exchanges. The Chief Executive Officer of these firms, Lance W. Shields, locked Tario out of the company in 1992, contending Tario was skimming off funds through the computer; Tario, in turn, accused Shields of secretly setting up the computer for "front running" the firm's clients, apparently cheating the clients of vast sums of money. MARK SATO: After fingering and setting up Michael Milken and Ivan Boesky, Sato apparently became an FBI informant and provocateur. He poses as a purported "illegal tax protester." He specializes in supposedly setting up Bahamian trusts for runaway money. Does the money somehow fall into the hands of the government? As a computer analyst and engineer, Sato set up most of the computers for commodity brokers on LaSalle Street in Chicago. He apparently aided the Japanese in efforts by them to get an armlock on the Chicago markets in the early 1980s. A knowledgeable intelligence operative contended that Sato worked off and on for the Japanese secret police in the U.S. Since there are apparent efforts by the team to scandalize Al Gore on some "oriental" matter, Sato is the perfect one to assist Vassilos, Meeker, Fong, and others to slow down the Clinton scandal while they set about to wreck or try to wreck Al Gore. Viciously anti-Israel and anti-Jew, Sato is a natural member of the "get Gore" team. Sato has a good handle on the soybean dealings used to disguise dope money. He once publicly ridiculed a commodity expert on the dope question, by way of Sato preserving his "cover." Most of the foregoing team members are intermediaries, investigators, and compilers of data for the Independent Counsel Kenneth W. Starr. They spread disinformation to slow down the Clinton scandals while they set about to wreck Al Gore who they perceive as being unpatriotic and unfit to replace Clinton. In their work, the team members engage in extreme extortion, shake-downs, and blackmail. Tens of thousands of pages have been compiled on their dirty work which is allowed, permitted, and condoned by Starr and his cronies. This team is not the visible group of lawyers as assistant prosecutors written about in the press from time to time {1}. Charles Hayes, once of Nancy, Kentucky, apparently arranged or was about to arrange to fabricate records with the use of computers to try to frame Al Gore. Hayes relied heavily on team member Fong for document faking. Hayes, among the team members, refers to Fong as "the chink." Putting the finger, publicly, on this team of blackmailers, extortionists, and gangster business arrangers, would tend to force Starr to proceed full speed ahead against Clinton and wreck the schemes of the "get Gore" team. This report is backed up by a virtual warehouse of tapes, records, and reports which are here just summarized. ---------------------------<< Notes >>--------------------------- {1} Besides his team of lawyers, Starr's team (not to be confused with the alleged team mentioned above) reportedly includes 150 "surrogates." ----------------------------------------------------------------- Views expressed do not necessarily reflect those of Conspiracy Nation, nor of its Editor in Chief. ----------------------------------------------------------------- I encourage distribution of "Conspiracy Nation." ----------------------------------------------------------------- If you would like "Conspiracy Nation" sent to your e-mail address, send a message in the form "subscribe cn-l My Name" to listproc@cornell.edu (Note: that is "CN-L" *not* "CN-1") ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information on how to receive the improved Conspiracy Nation Newsletter, send an e-mail message to bigred@shout.net ----------------------------------------------------------------- Want to know more about Whitewater, Oklahoma City bombing, etc? (1) telnet prairienet.org (2) logon as "visitor" (3) go citcom ----------------------------------------------------------------- See also: http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html ----------------------------------------------------------------- See also: ftp.shout.net pub/users/bigred ----------------------------------------------------------------- Aperi os tuum muto, et causis omnium filiorum qui pertranseunt. Aperi os tuum, decerne quod justum est, et judica inopem et pauperem. -- Liber Proverbiorum XXXI: 8-9 Subject: Government Used False CIA Affidavits Against Charles Hayes From: "J. Orlin Grabbe" Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 21:07:50 -0800 Message-ID: <330FD0A6.2E9A@aci.net> Organization: Altopia Corp. - Affordable Usenet Access - http://www.alt.net Newsgroups: alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater Government Used False CIA Affidavits Against Charles Hayes, Defense Says by J. Orlin Grabbe As I have previously reported, the U.S. Attorney's office for the Eastern District of Kentucky--which had charged Charles Hayes in a murder-for-hire scheme--displayed as its chief witness a convicted felon and former mental patient named Lawrence Myers (a.k.a. Meyers), who is also a one-time writer for Media Bypass magazine. Myers--an author of books on bomb- making, and one of the few journalists the government allowed to interview accused Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh--tried to extort $5,000 from a former roommate who was homosexual, according to California police reports from 1985. These reports also say he called up police, admitted to the extortion, and said he would kill the person anyway, even if the individual paid the $5,000, because--Myers claimed to police--the man deserved to die. Myers told police he needed the money to finance his campaign against homosexuals and drug dealers in the area. The U.S. Attorney's office also offered as witness against Hayes an FBI Agent named David Keller, who claimed that J. Orlin Grabbe and Charles Hayes were probably the same person. This false identification was used by U.S. Magistrate Judge J. B. Johnson Jr. as a basis for denying bail to Hayes. FBI Agent Keller is said by defense investigators to be a former member of a gang called "The Outlaws," among whom, gang members say, he used and sold heroin while informing on them for the FBI. During the trial Hayes cited his CIA background and testified to his recent activities in conjunction with a group of computer hackers called the Fifth Column in probing government corruption, including corruption of the FBI and the Department of Justice. But the Prosecution claimed Hayes was "living in a fantasy world" and had no credibility, by contrast to government witnesses Lawrence Myers and David Keller. To prove this, the Prosecution introduced two letters from the CIA which seemed to indicate Hayes had never worked for them. Now the Hayes' defense charges these affidavits were false. Moreover, the defense charges, government witness Lawrence Myers had been previously rejected as an FBI informant, noting that "This rejection is significant, considering that the FBI regularly accepts drug dealers, con men and worse as informants." The following report from the Associated Press is dated February 22, 1997. Hayes seeks new murder-for- hire trial Says government used fake CIA affidavits LONDON, Ky.--A man convicted of trying to have his son killed says he should get a new trial because the government used fake CIA affidavits against him. Chuck Hayes of Pulaski County filed his motion for a new trial yesterday in U.S. District Court. He also said he should get a new trial because prosecutors withheld evidence that would have discredited Lawrence Myers, one of their key witnesses. Hayes claims he is a former CIA operative who enjoyed playing mind games with the FBI. He tried to use that defense against a charge he hired a hit man to kill his son, with whom he was engaged in an inheritance battle. But federal prosecutors introduced affidavits at trial in which the CIA denied any association with Hayes. The motion for a new trial said the affidavits were false, were never authenticated and should not have been admitted into evidence. "On the second day of trial, one of the government's own witnesses talking about Mr. Hayes' connection with the CIA, a fact crucial to his defense," the motion said. "The affidavits are wrong, and the defense was denied the opportunity to prove they were false and did not meet the authentication and hearsay admission requirements of the Federal Rules of Evidence." Hayes also claims the FBI didn't use his fingerprints or undercover name to find out if he really worked for the CIA. As for Myers, a reporter for an alternative magazine, from Evansville, Ind., Hayes said the jury should have been allowed to hear about how Myers was discharged from the military for a mental condition and how the FBI refused to take him on as a paid informant. "Whatever they had, they would not accept him and their decision that he was not reliable is additional exculpatory evidence not provided fully or in time for use in preparing the defense case for trial," the motion said. "This rejection is significant, considering that the FBI regularly accepts drug dealers, con men and worse as informants." Hayes is being held without bond pending his sentencing on May 2. February 22, 1997 Web Page: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/  [ This URL: http://www.pdxnorml.org/HAYES ]